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Gear Head 08 January 2009 01:08 PM

But surely, if the bank do not start lending again, house prices will continue to devalue, making their investments worth even less? :wonder:

Gear Head 08 January 2009 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by fivetide (Post 8407186)
That's actually a good deal really. It means you have a relatively recent mortgage and while those on trackers or SVRs are seeing the payments go down (possibly not much further though as most agreements have a collar level they won't go below) anyone looking at a new mortgage is being asked for a massive deposit or facing much higher rates than yours. Check it out, you are probably still on a good deal by comparison.

5t.

We recently got a 3 year fixed back in August at around 6%. :rolleyes:

EddScott 08 January 2009 01:13 PM

Explain to me why interest rates are going to rocket back up in 18 months?

So the idea of deflation is out the window for the UK?

fivetide 08 January 2009 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by chrispurvis100 (Post 8407195)
We recently got a 3 year fixed back in August at around 6%. :rolleyes:

Again what deposit did you put down? To get a rate below that you are looking at 25% minimum if not more.

5t.

Dave T-S 08 January 2009 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by fivetide (Post 8407186)
That's actually a good deal really. It means you have a relatively recent mortgage and while those on trackers or SVRs are seeing the payments go down (possibly not much further though as most agreements have a collar level they won't go below) anyone looking at a new mortgage is being asked for a massive deposit or facing much higher rates than yours. Check it out, you are probably still on a good deal by comparison.

5t.

No collar on our tracker :cool:

Now paying 1.73%, looking forward to the next reduction :D

lozgti 08 January 2009 01:20 PM

We put about 22.5% down to get a 10 year fix at 5.25%

I struggle to comprehend how low these rates are now.Yes they were low when the boom all first started but to me,5.25% was a great deal in the mortgage market.

I was more used to seeing historical figures of 10-15% and a lot of the older generation (my house cost me just £3000,you know.Your parents etc) were paying double digits interest rates

Seems really odd times to me (and,the lenders aren't bound by the bank rate at all are they? If they want to wack it up to whatever % they can can't they? It's just the government asking them to follow suit,except trackers of course)

unclebuck 08 January 2009 01:20 PM

Another kick in the teeth from New Labour for the sensible.

They really are going to destroy this country. :mad:

lozgti 08 January 2009 01:22 PM

I can't work out how clever or independant the B of E is

davegtt 08 January 2009 01:22 PM

Slightly different to the 1989 crash then isnt it when Interest rates shot through the roof ;)

TelBoy 08 January 2009 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by lozgti (Post 8407233)
I can't work out how clever or independent the B of E is


Why, what would you have done?

Gear Head 08 January 2009 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by fivetide (Post 8407214)
Again what deposit did you put down? To get a rate below that you are looking at 25% minimum if not more.

5t.

8% mate.

fivetide 08 January 2009 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by lozgti (Post 8407228)
We put about 22.5% down to get a 10 year fix at 5.25%

I struggle to comprehend how low these rates are now.Yes they were low when the boom all first started but to me,5.25% was a great deal in the mortgage market.

I was more used to seeing historical figures of 10-15% and a lot of the older generation (my house cost me just £3000,you know.Your parents etc) were paying double digits interest rates

Seems really odd times to me (and,the lenders aren't bound by the bank rate at all are they? If they want to wack it up to whatever % they can can't they? It's just the government asking them to follow suit,except trackers of course)


No they aren't bound you are right there. If you had that sort of deposit and if you can find a few more grand to make 25% have a chat with the bank and see what they can do. It still might not be worthwhile swapping.

Ours is the same (only 2 years though) but when we spoke to our bank they couldn't actually do better unless we came up with even more of a deposit which we didn't want to do.

EDIT for Chris - we put down 10%, seriously look into it i doubt you will get a better rate unless you can come up with some serious wedge. There was an article the otherday saying that to get the best rates you need a 40% deposit!!! :eek: Many mortgages need 40% deposit - Personal finance and investing news | Money saving tips | Financial news | Personal finance news - MSN Money

5t.

Henrik 08 January 2009 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by TelBoy (Post 8407250)
Why, what would you have done?

+5% because I have some savings and like going abroad :(

Gear Head 08 January 2009 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by fivetide (Post 8407266)
No they aren't bound you are right there. If you had that sort of deposit and if you can find a few more grand to make 25% have a chat with the bank and see what they can do. It still might not be worthwhile swapping.

Ours is the same (only 2 years though) but when we spoke to our bank they couldn't actually do better unless we came up with even more of a deposit which we didn't want to do.

EDIT for Chris - we put down 10%, seriously look into it i doubt you will get a better rate unless you can come up with some serious wedge. There was an article the otherday saying that to get the best rates you need a 40% deposit!!! :eek: Many mortgages need 40% deposit*-*Personal finance and investing news | Money saving tips | Financial news | Personal finance news - MSN Money

5t.

I know, so I am not too worried. At least we have 2.5 years now to save up the extra 10-15% if we need it. :thumb:

FlightMan 08 January 2009 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by speedking (Post 8407164)
What does this reduction actually achieve wrt the economy? Fixed rate mortgages, high credit / store card rates, utility bills related to external factors, raw materials priced in $US, etc. what will change?

Bugger all.

The Govt want us to go out and spend spend spend out way out of the mess they've got us into. :mad:

And with '000 of jobs going everyday, anyone who does that is a fool.

FlightMan 08 January 2009 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by EddScott (Post 8407209)
Explain to me why interest rates are going to rocket back up in 18 months?

So the idea of deflation is out the window for the UK?

As I understand, and I'm not an expert, we're heading for deflation in the short term.

Then, due to these record interest rates, and the rising cost of imports, inflation will start to rise. This will eb made worse if the Govt decides to print money. To combat this rise in inflation, the BoE will have to raise rates.

I'm prepared to be taught a lesson in econimics though, by some of the experts on here. :D

TelBoy 08 January 2009 02:10 PM

That's about right actually. The scary thing is the extent to which we're bottling up inflation is pretty much a total guess, this sort of co-ordinated anti-recessionary action has nver been seen before. What i would challenge though, is the timespan of 18 months. I would love that to be right. But the chances of it actually panning out like that are, unfortunately, minimal.

FlightMan 08 January 2009 02:17 PM

Cheers Telboy.

At least my financial strategy isn't based on rubbish then!

njkmrs 08 January 2009 02:28 PM

As I see it the Gov are trying to put money in peoples pockets(by making them pay less on their mortgages ie, lowering the interest rates ) to give the feel good factor again and hence get people to spend to get the economy moving .
If this succeeds and they then raise rates up high again ,they will just undo the whole healing process and probably start us in a downward spiral again .

For that reason I see a good few months of this low rate and then a gradual increase over several years after that until the ship has found calmer waters .
IMO for what its worth .:)

Bravo2zero_sps 08 January 2009 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by njkmrs (Post 8407363)
As I see it the Gov are trying to put money in peoples pockets(by making them pay less on their mortgages ie, lowering the interest rates ) to give the feel good factor again and hence get people to spend to get the economy moving .
If this succeeds and they then raise rates up high again ,they will just undo the whole healing process and probably start us in a downward spiral again .

For that reason I see a good few months of this low rate and then a gradual increase over several years after that until the ship has found calmer waters .
IMO for what its worth .:)


That's how I see it too. Don't know if my mortgage lender will go any lower, i'm already on 1.74% so hoping for 1.24% now but will wait and see what they announce. Think they might be forced to as one who took Government handouts.

As you say they can't just whack the rates up as it would kill the economy stone dead.

FlightMan 08 January 2009 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by ************** (Post 8407392)
As you say they can't just whack the rates up as it would kill the economy stone dead.

Well, when inflation starts rocketing, that's just what they'll have to do. And if they dont/can't they'll print money. Remember the BoE has a 2% inflation target to hit. :D

And then it's welcome to Zanu NuLabours paradise. We hope you enjoy your stay. :thumb:

rickya 08 January 2009 02:52 PM

Itl get far worse if they start printing money next!!!!! :) :lol1:

Bravo2zero_sps 08 January 2009 02:55 PM

Not so sure inflation will rocket though as like everyone is saying above what difference is it making. I'm certainly not going out and blowing the hundreds i'm saving a month as i'm using it to pay off debt and my impending wedding (low interest rates couldn't have come at a better time for me!). New toy expenditure is over for a long time and with everyone worried about their jobs then extra money in your pocket from cheaper mortgages should stay exactly there, in your pocket or pay off existing debt.

EAndy 08 January 2009 03:03 PM

I took a 2 year tracker last Feb time when it was at 5.75% and our rate floated 1.24% above BOE so 6.99% that was a 100% mortgage no deposit.

We moved into house May time and thats when mortgage started.

Currently as Lloyds / C&G have passed it all on its 3.24% and now will be after today 2.74%.

Original payments - £1100
Current payments - £500
New payments - £x ? £420?

Gonna be fun when we have to remortgage :brickwall think I took the right option with the tracker though. Come next May reckon it'll be around 8% ish, having said that both me and other half have over the last year been fortunate enough to increase combinded income by over £10k PA so should be ok + I've paid off a £15k loan

lightning101 08 January 2009 03:06 PM

I assume you continue to pay the full £1100 as an overpayment of £600 every month, thereby effectively dropping £7200 a year from your capital and reducing the interest ? :)

njkmrs 08 January 2009 03:07 PM

I may be wrong but inflation seemed to be rising (IMO )because everyone was having us over as mugs .Oil going through the roof ,gas /electric going throught the roof,food prices going through the roof ,just about everything we needed was increasing way beyond most peoples pay rises etc .Everyone wanted an extra slice from us .

Not so strange to see it come down now that the country has been brought to a grinding halt .People have nothing else to give .Not surprising is it really .

Bravo2zero_sps 08 January 2009 03:08 PM

Those thinking it will be 8%+ next year need to think how will this happen? Jump from 1.5% to 8% in one go? Nope. Do it by .25% rises monthly at worst possibly quarterly. Then when exactly will these rises start? No time soon that is for sure so how on earth can it ever be 8%+ in 12 months?!

Claaarkio 08 January 2009 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by lightning101 (Post 8407442)
I assume you continue to pay the full £1100 as an overpayment of £600 every month, thereby effectively dropping £7200 a year from your capital and reducing the interest ? :)

Thats exactly what we are doing, speak to any finiancial adviser and the best way to get your mortgage down is overpay!! our replayment mortgage only pays about 120 quid off the capital a month, so you can see how good overpaying is. Its easy to tripple / quadruaple the amount that is coming off the capital per month! :)

To go back to an earlier question, isn't one of the reasons they are dropping the rate is to get more disposable income into the homes in the uk and thus kick start spending again? obviously this is only going to affect tracker mortgages but there is alot of them out there!

Dave :)

Gear Head 08 January 2009 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by ************** (Post 8407449)
Those thinking it will be 8%+ next year need to think how will this happen? Jump from 1.5% to 8% in one go? Nope. Do it by .25% rises monthly at worst possibly quarterly. Then when exactly will these rises start? No time soon that is for sure so how on earth can it ever be 8%+ in 12 months?!

It won't.

Bravo2zero_sps 08 January 2009 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by chrispurvis100 (Post 8407478)
It won't.

I know but some on here think it will. Not even possible in 2 years in my opinion as the economy just couldn't take that hike.


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