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Leslie 24 November 2008 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by SunnySideUp (Post 8294241)
The countries Darling is about to give us all some juicy presents tomorrow!

VAT cut to 15%, Tax cuts, Stamp Duty abandoned, Vehicle Exise Duty frozen, Petrol Duty cut, higher child benefits, higher Tax Credits .... and something which will shock everyone!

The lower paid will benefit most, as they are the ones who spend everything they get .. the middle earners will get much less as they will simply save and that's not what we want.

So, fellow ScoobyNetters - get out there and SPEND, SPEND, SPEND!!!! :thumb:

How long do you think that will last before all taxes go up steeply plus some new ones in an effort to pay off the vast national debt over the next 50 years?

Les

Matteeboy 24 November 2008 10:39 AM

I'm actually starting to think the government are looking at bankruptcy.

I'm going to move our money out of NR as the trustee company, Granite, is looking very shakey.

So, put the money into NS&I - but is even that safe now?!

What a bizarre state of affairs! Got most in HSBC but maxed out on the guarantee. Seen two mates lose savings in banks going under recently.
Very very keen to avoid the same.

The VAT drop seems pointless - huge deficit for almost no individual gain.

Coffin Dodger 24 November 2008 04:30 PM

Well Pedro, not quite as you predicted.

VAT down to 15% (for one year :rolleyes: ) but duty on fuel, fags, booze etc. up. NI going up by 0.5p. VED changes to be "phased in" starting next year.

Not exactly generous is it?

SunnySideUp 24 November 2008 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 8296419)
pay off the vast national debt over the next 50 years?

Les

Les, in much less than 50 years, you and I will be debating this in heaven (or hell) - do you think they will have an AfterDeathForum? ;) :lol1:

SunnySideUp 24 November 2008 05:51 PM

45% for those earning more than £150,000 a year!! :eek:

Well that's just bl00dy priceless!!! :mad:

zs_phil 24 November 2008 06:16 PM

whens this pre budget tax cut thingy mabob going to be released i thought it was today but ive only seen vat cut 2.5 % which means if i buy a £150 toaster ill save about £4 i think :idea: yaaaaaaaay :lol1:

GC8 24 November 2008 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by SunnySideUp (Post 8297526)
45% for those earning more than £150,000 a year!! :eek:

Well that's just bl00dy priceless!!! :mad:

You voted fro the inept shower of b***rds!

mart360 24 November 2008 06:45 PM

Who exactly is going to benefit?

fuel duty will rise to offset the loss of vat, so were no better off.

only over the counter goods will benefit from the 2.5% cut in vat,

and the car tax rises are only delayed!!!!!!! they will still come into force a

year later.


and to cap it all, they reckon vat will hit 20% once were out of this sh*t

nice to how the peoples government looked after us


Mart :(

Timwinner 24 November 2008 06:45 PM

I feel the whole thing is like a kick in the teeth, The whole budget is nothing more than a folly, distracting our attention away from the fact that for a decade we have had the best economical growth in the countries history and somehow not a penny of that wealth, that profit that record breaking growth was put into the bank.
I think what we really need to know is where did that 10 years worth of growth really go? it wasnt on schools, it wasnt on hospitals, it wasnt on infrastructure.

I would for go the likely £40 I will save over the next 3 months for a snap election.

Look out for the actual rate they put the new higher rate tax band at, see if its not just above £187,611k a year, As this is Gordon Browns salary. yes that right the man who got us into this enjoyed a 37% pay rise, a modest £51,000 to help him battle through these tough times.

SunnySideUp 24 November 2008 06:48 PM

Phew, the £150,000 45% Tax hike is only coming in 2011 ...... after the next General Election - so, pretty much a pointless statement as it will be used to bash both parties over the head with until they relent :D

The £150,000+ earners actually RUN the country anyway!

CLSII 24 November 2008 10:06 PM

Just a minor point from an earlier poster saying that fuel prices are back to normal. It's not that long ago that people were getting worked up about petrol passing the 80p mark. Prices go through the roof for a short time and then everyone is 'really grateful' when they settle back down 8p higher than it was before the huge increase.

In 1988 petrol was 34.7p a litre apparently.... :D

dpb 24 November 2008 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by Timwinner (Post 8297670)
I feel the whole thing is like a kick in the teeth, The whole budget is nothing more than a folly, distracting our attention away from the fact that for a decade we have had the best economical growth in the countries history and somehow not a penny of that wealth, that profit that record breaking growth was put into the bank.
I think what we really need to know is where did that 10 years worth of growth really go? it wasnt on schools, it wasnt on hospitals, it wasnt on infrastructure.

I would for go the likely £40 I will save over the next 3 months for a snap election.

Look out for the actual rate they put the new higher rate tax band at, see if its not just above £187,611k a year, As this is Gordon Browns salary. yes that right the man who got us into this enjoyed a 37% pay rise, a modest £51,000 to help him battle through these tough times.


i think a lot of this supposed growth was pie in the sky - same as everybody thinks their rich cos they own a 400k semi :cuckoo:

SunnySideUp 25 November 2008 11:41 PM

Well, that was a damp squib!!

Henrik 26 November 2008 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by SunnySideUp (Post 8301411)
Well, that was a damp squib!!

What's this? PSL in an anti labour quip? :)

Coffin Dodger 26 November 2008 09:30 AM


What's this? PSL in an anti labour quip?
Nah he's trying to cover up the fact that he failed massively with the original posting, singing the praises of of his darling NL, saying how we are going to be given some massive tax cuts etc. Backfired I would say......

Lets have a look :D


Originally Posted by SunnySideUp (Post 8294241)
The countries Darling is about to give us all some juicy presents tomorrow!

Hmmm not exactly, unless you count bankrupting the country a good present...


Originally Posted by SunnySideUp (Post 8294241)
VAT cut to 15%,

About the only one he got right....


Originally Posted by SunnySideUp (Post 8294241)
Tax cuts,

Nope, seems like just about every other tax is going up to compensate.


Originally Posted by SunnySideUp (Post 8294241)
Stamp Duty abandoned,

Nope


Originally Posted by SunnySideUp (Post 8294241)
Vehicle Exise Duty frozen,

Nope, new increases to be phased in.


Originally Posted by SunnySideUp (Post 8294241)
Petrol Duty cut,

Nope, it was actually increased :mad:


Originally Posted by SunnySideUp (Post 8294241)
higher child benefits, higher Tax Credits ....

None of them.


Originally Posted by SunnySideUp (Post 8294241)
and something which will shock everyone!

Yeah that they've fcuked up badly again


Originally Posted by SunnySideUp (Post 8294241)
The lower paid will benefit most, as they are the ones who spend everything they get .. the middle earners will get much less as they will simply save and that's not what we want.

So, fellow ScoobyNetters - get out there and SPEND, SPEND, SPEND!!!! :thumb:

No one really benefited. Sooner we get this shower of sh*t out of government the better but I fear the country will be down the swanny by then :mad:


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