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GC8 30 October 2008 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by scoobyvirgin
How long until Blu Ray is replaced by a superior format?

A long long time. It isnt easy to improve upon.

logiclee 30 October 2008 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by jaytc2003 (Post 8233675)
think streaming hd content will be years away but downloading wont. IC21N or whatever it is called will give mega fast broadband to most people in the uk (fibre optic cable to the roadside cabinets) so the bottleneck is only going to be from the cabinet to your home.
With the downloading, a lot of the blueray content is in the extras so the films themselves once you have cut out the fancy menus etc wont be mega big. You can see blueray films on bit torrent sites and they are only just over 7gb. I have never downloaded one though so cant comment on the quality


The system you refer to will only be available to 40% of homes and will cost £1.5billion. BT will only invest if Ofcom allows them to restructure and charge sufficiently to regain the costs. So far it isn't approved. Fibre into every house is estimated at £29 Billion.

I don't do pirate movies at all but the few supposed Hidef ones I've seen are not in the same league as Blu-Ray and the sound was compressed. Pure 1080P and 6 to 8 channels of lossless sound take up a massive amound of storage which is the reason for bluray's data capacity. A few standard def extra's with compressed stereo sound take up little space in comparison.

If you could do full hi-def for 7gig they'd do it on DVD.

Cheers
Lee

logiclee 30 October 2008 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by GC8 (Post 8233689)
A long long time. It isnt easy to improve upon.

Sony and all the other big players agree that Blu-Ray will be the last disc format. No money is being put into developing anything else.
The next format will be an online service but we are at least a decade or more away from that being a reality.

Cheers
Lee

SC008Y_MAD 30 October 2008 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by CRAIGFIN (Post 8230001)
They reckon all of these disc formats will be obselete in less than 5 years and everything ,including Bluray movies, will be downloaded. I'm not sure thats likely as a lot of the UK still only has a 1Mb connection and can't go faster because of line length (like me).

I think Jason Bradbury from The Gadget Show did this earlier this year and it took hours to download "I am Legend" in Bluray format, something like 4hrs.

My advice.....get a PS3! :D

FiveFWD - The best way to get HD movies video from The Gadget Show

logiclee 30 October 2008 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by SC008Y_MAD (Post 8234340)

And although you get high def picture from appletv you don't get high def audio. Only highly compressed DD5.1.

Cheers
Lee

Ant 30 October 2008 08:57 PM

I have both Blu ray and the now dead hd DVD I still think the hd DVD is a better picture.

Off topic anyone downloaded blu ray films titled ps3avcd off the newgroups . Stripped to fit a dvd9 only has dts not true hd but the video quality is the same. There's a forum with the links to the newsgroups quick google search ;)

My dad bought a blu ray from richer sounds £150 samsung firmware can be upgraded too

logiclee 30 October 2008 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by antc (Post 8234454)
I have both Blu ray and the now dead hd DVD I still think the hd DVD is a better picture.

I agree.

I have PS3, Sony BDP-S350 Blu-Ray player and Toshiba EP-35 HD-DVD player.

HD-DVD does seem to offer a better picture although HD Audio is equal.
The Blu-Ray players are quicker and smoother though and I haven't had a single problem with Blu-Ray playback, can't say the same about HD-DVD.

Cheers
Lee

StickyMicky 30 October 2008 09:36 PM

downloads and proper DRM should hopefully, with a bit of luck, put all the pikey pirate downloaders out of action as well, and i am pretty sure that most people in the business would like this sooner rather then later, so will push it for all its worth......................


its not the cost of a £180 blueray player that bothers me, its all the usless discs that i would have paid for, that will be left gathering dust in a few years time when they stop selling them.

its a bit like all my old VHS cassettes, that i threw out :rolleyes:

or audio tapes, or my vast collection of dj vinal that i gave away for free, seamed like a great idea at the time when i was collecting them all, not i just look back and think what a fooken waste LOL

yes i could have kept them and played them back, but who still has a vhs player under the tv nowadays? nobody keeps em, they just bin em.

i know its not perfect or anything, but if a film is available on xbox live at the moment that i want to see, i would rather download it (yes it may take a while, but come on, plan it in advance???) then watch it later on, and not have to deal with the box and disc getting added to my "collection"

the same collection that only ever has maybe 5% of the discs ever watched for a second time!

logiclee 31 October 2008 02:11 PM

Found this article which has just appeared on a few of the AV and HC sites.

Blu-ray sales will triple in Europe in little over a year, despite the declining economy. That’s the finding of London-based analysts FutureSource. In a new report, the firm predicts that 1.8million BD players will ship into the UK and Europe by the close of 2009.
The figures, which do not include sales of the PlayStation 3, reflect what FutureSource believes will be a shift to a ‘stay-cation’ (rather than vacation) philosophy, as consumers pump money into living room entertainment.
Increasingly, it believes that flatpanel TVs, hi-def sources and software will be seen as better value propositions that holidays and dining out.
FutureSource director Sarah Carroll (pictured), reasons: ‘In times of economic hardship, we’ve seen consumer electronics and in-home entertainment weather the storm; indeed, expenditure in these segments can even increase. Sales of VCRs jumped by 440 per cent during the Eighties recession.’
A recent report from DisplaySearch can to a similar conclusion, estimating that sales of standalone BD players will eclipse the PS3 by 2010.

Cheers
Lee


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