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Peanuts 10 September 2008 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by APIDavid (Post 8122376)
£2100.00 + VAT with a 6 months / 6000 miles whichever sooner warranty.


:thumb: refreshing to see a published price David, rather than the usual "call me for best price" etc.
Shows openess and a pricing structure in place.

APIDavid 10 September 2008 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Peanuts (Post 8122792)
:thumb: refreshing to see a published price David, rather than the usual "call me for best price" etc.
Shows openess and a pricing structure in place.

I agree, but the problem is that it just creates competition and every silly bugger that has one, will now get on here say they can supply one for less than APi.................... Which makes me look expensive again.

David

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Simtek, the most exciting new Ecu for years
Buddy Club exhausts
Scoobysport Exhausts
Eibach suspension
AP racing brakes and clutches
And of course; the well known APi Performance Exedy organic clutch

www.apiengines.com

01926 614333

New_scooby_04 10 September 2008 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Peanuts (Post 8122792)
:thumb: refreshing to see a published price David, rather than the usual "call me for best price" etc.
Shows openess and a pricing structure in place.

David's always been like that. He even put an itemised breakdown for an engine build from APi when someone queried the price of rebuilds on a thread a while back IIRC. :thumb:

Peanuts 10 September 2008 01:21 PM

API = up in my estimation.

not that it matters mind lol

Scoobybits 10 September 2008 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by scoobynewbie72 (Post 8122465)
You can buy a car for that lol

you reckon?
I will buy every running Subaru turbo with a 6 speed fitted and working and give you profit.
Shame same attitude to cheap parts not given when people are the seller
They aint cheap cars to obtain through legit sources to have the stock every one wants..
Rant over!

David..APi..how are you for stock at the mo re 6 speeds anyhow? drop me a pm.!

Peanuts 10 September 2008 01:25 PM

Jase, newage shell, sort it please :D

APIDavid 10 September 2008 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by jasemac (Post 8122869)
you reckon?
I will buy every running Subaru turbo with a 6 speed fitted and working and give you profit.
Shame same attitude to cheap parts not given when people are the seller
They aint cheap cars to obtain through legit sources to have the stock every one wants..
Rant over!

David..APi..how are you for stock at the mo re 6 speeds anyhow? drop me a pm.!

I have 2 UK ones and a JDM dccd in stock - but all are sold just at the mo. I could do with another JDM with Dccd though. APi Japan have 4 in stock but I cannot get them here until late October.

David

Agents for:
Simtek, the most exciting new Ecu for years
Buddy Club exhausts
Scoobysport Exhausts
Eibach suspension
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And of course; the well known APi Performance Exedy organic clutch

www.apiengines.com

01926 614333

Arch 10 September 2008 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by APIDavid (Post 8122376)
£2100.00 + VAT with a 6 months / 6000 miles whichever sooner warranty.

David

Agents for Simtek, the most exciting new Ecu for years

How much for just Supply :thumb:

APIDavid 10 September 2008 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Arch (Post 8123051)
How much for just Supply :thumb:

£1850.00 + VAT for standard UK or JDM That is a ' kit ' and includes prop, gear linkage and lever and all clutch operating mech. Price gets reduced if I don't have a full set, obviously.

£2350.00 + VAT for JDM Dccd - for the 'kit'

Being open and frank again:cry:

David

Agents for:
Simtek, the most exciting new Ecu for years
Buddy Club exhausts
Scoobysportexhausts
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And of course; the well known APi Performance Exedy organic clutch

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01926 614333

RB5_203 10 September 2008 06:26 PM

I got the 5th gear syncro problem on mine, how much are the kits going for that you metioned?

2.5STI 10 September 2008 09:07 PM

its all a load of bush waking mentalness!!!

in reference to the claim that API made that they will supply and fit a 6 speed for that price of 2100 or watever,,,dnt recon this is legit as he states he has none.... plus was told a diffrerent price a few weeks back and it wernt that cheap? if it was i would of bit his hand off...

i think we are all gona have to except these few things..

unless we own a breakers someone crashes a new age impreza...
unless we get a flight to japan and find one...
unless we are serioulsly lucky and some one knows someone who knows an ol boy...(yuno wat i mean)

we are all screwed and will have to pay 3 grand to get a gearbox in a now 2 grand car...lol

soon people will be like fcuk imprezas there a rip off!!! the once poor mans supercar now a burden to own.

and to think i own two...

GAY

Matt_Davies 10 September 2008 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by APIDavid (Post 8122848)
I agree, but the problem is that it just creates competition and every silly bugger that has one, will now get on here say they can supply one for less than APi.................... Which makes me look expensive again.

David

Agents for:
Simtek, the most exciting new Ecu for years
Buddy Club exhausts
Scoobysport Exhausts
Eibach suspension
AP racing brakes and clutches
And of course; the well known APi Performance Exedy organic clutch

www.apiengines.com

01926 614333


Hi David,

Thanks for replying with a price. I see what your getting at saying publishing prices creates competition for you but in all honesty I think anyone who's interested in buying one is going to shop around anyway, well I am.
And ultimately you could still end up looking expensive whether you quote by publishing your prices or just quoting as and when over the phone.

You cant confuse creating competition with your quote not being competitive :D Im sure most people would be happier parting with that sort of money from a respected outfit like yours than some dodgy garage who neither knows nor cares what their doing though.

Its finding that balance between feeling like your paying a fair price but are also getting the service you want with it and im sure thats what you feel like your doing and your customers are getting.

You could probably save yourself alot of time if prices for popular modifications, 6 speed conversions, turbo swaps, etc were published anyway as apposed to having to deal with joe bloggs over the phone all the while with the same queries day in day out . . . .just a thought.

Matt :)

APIDavid 11 September 2008 09:40 AM

Sorry, I don't follow that. Kits for what? To repair the synchro on a 6 speeder. OR sort out 5th on a 5 speeder OR to buy a 6 speed kit?

David APi

StickyMicky 11 September 2008 12:29 PM

how long does a conversion take?

assume its maybe the same as doing a clutch swap + change the rear diff?

easy done in a day?

i have been looking in advance for options once the 2.5 is installed :)

APIDavid 11 September 2008 12:40 PM

We can do a box alone while-u-wait. Probably the rear diff too. Yes, It's a days work effectively.

David Api

StickyMicky 11 September 2008 12:46 PM

thought as much, are you near a town centre or anything like that?

i would probably drive down, drop it off nice and early and mooch about town for a day before driving back up.

APIDavid 11 September 2008 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by StickyMicky (Post 8125072)
thought as much, are you near a town centre or anything like that?

i would probably drive down, drop it off nice and early and mooch about town for a day before driving back up.

We drop people off in Leamington Spa for shopping or window shopping. One guy's wife spent so much he thought he'd not have enough left or his bill here. She had at least 3 carrier bags full.:lol:

Or you can go with kids or a wife/ lady to Warwick castle which is owned by Madam Tussauds. Not a cheap day out though, typical tourist attrartion prices and Warwick does not have much in the way of shops to browse as an alternative.:sleep:

David

New_scooby_04 11 September 2008 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by APIDavid (Post 8125153)
We drop people off in Leamington Spa for shopping or window shopping. One guy's wife spent so much he thought he'd not have enough left or his bill here. She had at least 3 carrier bags full.:lol:

Or you can go with kids or a wife/ lady to Warwick castle which is owned by Madam Tussauds. Not a cheap day out though, typical tourist attrartion prices and Warwick does not have much in the way of shops to browse as an alternative.:sleep:

David

I can recommend the nearby pub, the Shakespeare, as a nice place to kill an afternoon. Great food, nice beer garden and lovely surroundings! Took the ex there and she was happy........ If I'd known how things would turn out, I would have considered offering their big Rottie her as an orderve ;) :D

Hindsight is a wonderful thing! :lol1:

BTW I'm just kidding....I'm not bitter...............and she would have given the poor dog indigestion! ;) :D

APIDavid 11 September 2008 02:07 PM

I have a PhD in hindsight.

Mother Theresa 11 September 2008 03:08 PM

I prefer to use a retrospectoscope....

Scoobybits 11 September 2008 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by Peanuts (Post 8122877)
Jase, newage shell, sort it please :D

bugeye?

StickyMicky 11 September 2008 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by APIDavid (Post 8125153)
We drop people off in Leamington Spa for shopping or window shopping. One guy's wife spent so much he thought he'd not have enough left or his bill here. She had at least 3 carrier bags full.:lol:

Or you can go with kids or a wife/ lady to Warwick castle which is owned by Madam Tussauds. Not a cheap day out though, typical tourist attrartion prices and Warwick does not have much in the way of shops to browse as an alternative.:sleep:

David

spot on, will probably do the lemmington spa thing, you will probably have my custom once the 2.5 is installed and mapped properly :)

would you possibly be interested in my old 1997 wrx 5 speed and rear dif?

StickyMicky 11 September 2008 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by New_scooby_04 (Post 8125220)
I can recommend the nearby pub,

problem is, if i go to the pub, i wont be fit to drive back home LOL

New_scooby_04 11 September 2008 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by StickyMicky (Post 8125741)
problem is, if i go to the pub, i wont be fit to drive back home LOL

Just stick to the food, you raging alcoholic!!! :razz:

Ns04

PS Fancy a pint?

;) :D

Peanuts 11 September 2008 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by jasemac (Post 8125615)
bugeye?

at a push I guess, you can facelift them to blobs cant you??
Was hoping for something 03 onwards to save the aggro.
Impact not an issue to a certain extent ;)

StickyMicky 11 September 2008 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by New_scooby_04 (Post 8125821)
Just stick to the food, you raging alcoholic!!! :razz:

Ns04

PS Fancy a pint?

;) :D

its the precious, i must have it, etc etc :lol1:

Midlife...... 11 September 2008 11:22 PM

Hi David (API)

Just a couple of observations / comments about swapping to a 6 speed :D

1. The non-DCCD Jap 6 speed you fitted a few months ago crunches slightly into 3rd gear when changing up from second....do I need to worry ?

2. I hated the new 6 speed gearbox with a vengence for a few weeks.....six years with a newage 5 speed and prodrive short shift...sweet :) I couldn't work out what gear I should be in and 3rd was a real pig !!.....

until I got the hang of it and discovered 4th Gear :D :D

Sorry to have to mention town driving (which I do a lot of) 30MPH is just over 2000 RPM which is pretty relaxed as the old Bugeye 5 speeed couldn't make it's mind up between 3rd and 4th :(

On road the Jap 4th gear is probably somewhere between my Bugeye 3rd and 4th....This means I can drop down and overtake (on the A69) without having to change up again on the opposite side of the road :D and keep the turbo spooling up on the back roads :D

Is the Jap 4th gear the same as the UK box 4th gear......just curious ??

Cheers


Shaun

APIDavid 12 September 2008 09:45 AM

Shaun, You are the first person ever to have not been delighted immediately with the 6 speed [ at APi anyway ] .

Your original 3rd was 1.366:1 now 4th is 1.346:1 so 4th is slightly higher geared than your original 3rd.

So effectively Subaru have given you an extra gear between 1st and 3rd on your old set up.

The synchro feel is something that afflicts most Subaru 3rd gears and it isn't really a crunch more like a rough engagement. Seriously expensive oil will probably help that.

A crunch is a definite tingle up the arm thing. Once it gets to that stage something needs to be done. But if the problem is slight as it appears to be now, then I doubt anyone would be able to see anything actually wearing and be able to fix it with any confidence. Of course anyone can fit a whole new 3rd gear set up at vast cost and fix it but to do it economically it needs to have visible damage.

That make sense?

David APi

Agents for:
Simtek, the most exciting new Ecu for years
Buddy Club exhausts
Scoobysportexhausts
Eibach suspension
AP Racing brakes and clutches
And of course; the well known APi Performance Exedy organic clutch

www.apiengines.com

01926 614333

masterbates1 12 September 2008 09:12 PM

I'm wanting a 6 speed in my00 very soon, will have around 330 horses. Do i or will i also need an uprated diff. Can the standard 1 take 330bhp of abuse.

Midlife...... 12 September 2008 11:21 PM

Hi David

Thanks for the mail....sorry for the late reply but I have to wait until the PC is free nowadays LOL

I'm surprised that I have been the first person to have taken a couple of weeks to get used to a new gearbox / car !!

please note the double :D :D somewhere at the end of paragraph 5 LOL

I had 13 years with Toyota MR2 gearboxes and it took me a while to get used to my bugeye.....likewise it has taken a couple of weeks to get used to the new STi 6 speed geargox in place of the 5 speed :D

My post was not a critisism of API in any way but I just wanted to put across my impression that the STi gear ratio's and the 4th in particular was worth the swap :)

Does this make sense ?

Cheers

Shaun


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