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Originally Posted by jasonius
(Post 7923601)
The other thing that I'd be concerned about is the effort of pumping the oil so high/length of pipework adding to the parasitic losses of the engine (ie less power available to actually drive the car, something like driving with AC on).
Are you sure mate?:confused: |
Storm Motorsport also run a Oil cooler in the same place aswell.
See link to see image. http://shop.stormmotorsport.co.uk/SS...ay%20image.jpg Scott |
Originally Posted by cookstar
(Post 7923967)
That was it I couldnt think of where I has seen it before.
OK ill give you mine and a tenner. :thumb: send placido domingo round in your car and you can collect mine at your leasure:p budgie:D |
Originally Posted by frayz
(Post 7924137)
I have exactly the same unit to be fitted to mine.
budgie;) |
Originally Posted by peter budgen
(Post 7924423)
get a move on then:rolleyes:
budgie;) :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: |
Originally Posted by frayz
(Post 7925465)
Didnt remember you building your car :hjtwofing
:lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: budgie:D |
IMHO the only danger is to your wallet !
LOL DunxC |
If you have not checked your oil temperatures why are you contemplating fitting an oil cooler? It is added expense, weight and complication you may not need.
Combined oil temp and pressre guage costs £60 ish. Oil temp only about £40. You can fit easily yoursef. FYI oil manufacturers generally claim their fully synthetic oils are good to 140 deg C. Personally I don't want to see more than 125 C. |
So what would a semi synthetic oil be good for? 120 deg c?
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I would never, ever, ever, want to run oil at 140ºC in an engine on track. Despite what oil manufacturers say it's "good" for, a subaru engine WILL kill itself with oil that hot on track. We run our TA car at a max of 120ºC and you can see the difference in oil pressure compared to 100ºC when studying the datalogs. Hotter oil also leads to increased oil lost into the breathers, more pronounced oil surge and generally lower reliability.
An oil cooler works very well in the TMIC position, on our 2007 TA car we ran a 25 row cooler behind the front left quarter of the bumper, venting into the wheel well, this position is about the worst. For knockhill TA we put a slightly smaller 19 row cooler in the TMIC position, and it worked much better overall. Heatsoak is nonsense for an oil cooler, don't worry about it unless you want to develop a lot of power at idle, and are concerned about the oil temps while doing so. The most important bit is as Harvey says, get a temperature gauge! |
I have a oil temp and pressure gauge, yet to be wired up, another job on the "to do" list.
I was just throwing ideas around :) |
Originally Posted by Zen Performance
(Post 7926298)
I would never, ever, ever, want to run oil at 140ºC in an engine on track. Despite what oil manufacturers say it's "good" for, a subaru engine WILL kill itself with oil that hot on track. We run our TA car at a max of 120ºC and you can see the difference in oil pressure compared to 100ºC when studying the datalogs. Hotter oil also leads to increased oil lost into the breathers, more pronounced oil surge and generally lower reliability.
An oil cooler works very well in the TMIC position, on our 2007 TA car we ran a 25 row cooler behind the front left quarter of the bumper, venting into the wheel well, this position is about the worst. For knockhill TA we put a slightly smaller 19 row cooler in the TMIC position, and it worked much better overall. Heatsoak is nonsense for an oil cooler, don't worry about it unless you want to develop a lot of power at idle, and are concerned about the oil temps while doing so. The most important bit is as Harvey says, get a temperature gauge! |
here is my oil cooler in a sort of top mount positon and seems to work well there :) sorry i havent got a closer pic of it
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