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spireite 20 October 2007 11:18 PM

gallois is obviously a newbie trol

Bravo2zero_sps 20 October 2007 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by 84of300 (Post 7346214)
His foot wasn't on the line when the ball was down. Am I missing something :)

Yes you are, the video ref was Australian and the pitch ref Irish, enough said ;)

gallois 20 October 2007 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by spireite (Post 7346221)
gallois is obviously a newbie trol

not at all, just a keen rugby fan, don't take it too hard, 2nd in the world is a good result.

gallois 20 October 2007 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by ************** (Post 7346223)
Yes you are, the video ref was Australian and the pitch ref Irish, enough said ;)

are you suggesting that the refs should have been english?

spireite 20 October 2007 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by gallois (Post 7346228)
are you suggesting that the refs should have been english?

Thank fook they were not scotish:Suspiciou

dsmith 20 October 2007 11:23 PM

I think hes suggesting the refs should have made better decisions

2 Missed "Acidental" offsides form Alain Rolland and the bad Try decision from dickinson.

Dont get me wrong SA may deserve the cup ...but there were some sh*T decisions in that game,

Lee247 20 October 2007 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by ************** (Post 7346223)
Yes you are, the video ref was Australian and the pitch ref Irish, enough said ;)

ahhh, thanks for that :D

I still think the ball was down and his foot was in the air. It should have been allowed. :)

Lee247 20 October 2007 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by gallois (Post 7346218)
yes, the foot touching the line.

I disagree

Bravo2zero_sps 20 October 2007 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by gallois (Post 7346228)
are you suggesting that the refs should have been english?

Nope the ref should have been NZ where the decisions would have been impartial :thumb:

Bravo2zero_sps 20 October 2007 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by dsmith (Post 7346236)
I think hes suggesting the refs should have made better decisions

2 Missed "Acidental" offsides form Alain Rolland and the bad Try decision from dickinson.

Dont get me wrong SA may deserve the cup ...but there were some sh*T decisions in that game,

Yep decisions that changed and ruined the direction of the game. Again it still may have been SA's cup but the fact is the ref ruined the game and what should have been a much closer 2nd half.

I still think the All Blacks are the best team in the World and had a bad day against the Frogs.

Luminous 20 October 2007 11:32 PM

It was a good game, and all this debating does mean we are forgetting one thing. We beat the French in their own stadium :D 2nd is good, and way way more than we ever had a right to hope for at the start of this tournament. :luxhello:









(opens a bury the ref fund ;) )

DesR 20 October 2007 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by 84of300 (Post 7346248)
I disagree

The image being used on this thread is after the offence. Cuetos foot touched the line before the ball was grounded hence the try being disallowed. The image shows the point at which his foot has lifted off the ground and the ball is being grounded.

dsmith 20 October 2007 11:40 PM


Cuetos foot touched the line before the ball was grounded
I/we disgree

gallois 20 October 2007 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by dsmith (Post 7346298)
I/we disgree

:lol1: of course

Lee247 20 October 2007 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by DesR (Post 7346290)
The image being used on this thread is after the offence. Cuetos foot touched the line before the ball was grounded hence the try being disallowed. The image shows the point at which his foot has lifted off the ground and the ball is being grounded.

I watched it, honestly, I thought the ball went down first. Never mind, makes no odds to the outcome, really :(

Bravo2zero_sps 20 October 2007 11:44 PM

Well i've posted the pic supporting the try, where's the pic supporting the claim that his foot was touching the line before the ball was grounded? Not seen one yet!

dsmith 20 October 2007 11:46 PM

https://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/imag...0_cueto203.jpg

This is the BBC's effort. Not enough for me personally to warrant disallowing it.

Genuinely down to how a whether a few blades are painted or not.

I say again....the spirit of the law says this should be a try. "on the line" is in touch. "possibly brushing a single painted blade of grass" isn't

Cr*p decision.

DesR 20 October 2007 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by ************** (Post 7346311)
Well i've posted the pic supporting the try, where's the pic supporting the claim that his foot was touching the line before the ball was grounded? Not seen one yet!

Just for you I will try and get one.... :thumb:

Bravo2zero_sps 20 October 2007 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by DesR (Post 7346319)
Just for you I will try and get one.... :thumb:

I thought you might :lol1:

Trout 21 October 2007 12:23 AM

In that picture his foot is clearly in touch. Excellent refereeing.

Of course without the 4th official I suspect it would have been a try.

More importantly England gifted SA 6 points early on and that was probably more telling in the end.

StiX 21 October 2007 01:08 AM

Full speed - try.

Slow motion, no try - foot in touch before it was lifted and ball was placed down.

If you are not English that was plain to see?

Anyway, if that had been allowed and Jonny Jonny had converted you would have still lost by 5.

Get over it.

You'll have to admit (eventually perhaps) that they were by miles the better team.

rob878 21 October 2007 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by StiX (Post 7346410)
Full speed - try.

Slow motion, no try - foot in touch before it was lifted and ball was placed down.

If you are not English that was plain to see?

Anyway, if that had been allowed and Jonny Jonny had converted you would have still lost by 5.

Get over it.

You'll have to admit (eventually perhaps) that they were by miles the better team.


Miles better??? what game were you watching??? they( the saffas) were limited in their play, habana and Jp williams, Percy kicked averagely compared to previous games. THey didn't see the ball apart from turn over and kick returns and their forwards worked hard to get the ball. The Bokkas deserved to win no shadow of a doubt but it wasn't a white wash nor were we as crap as the the rest of the home nations. So pisk your tits up and eff off.

StiX 21 October 2007 01:29 AM

I am guessing I was watching the same game as you?

Boks were better in line-out, scrum, breakdown etc. etc.?

All England did was kick and hope for mistakes that didn't happen.

They weren't as good.

And they lost.

What a shame.

And before you say it, yes Wales were pants losing to Fiji.

rob878 21 October 2007 01:43 AM


Originally Posted by StiX (Post 7346419)
I am guessing I was watching the same game as you?

Boks were better in line-out, scrum, breakdown etc. etc.?

All England did was kick and hope for mistakes that didn't happen.

They weren't as good.

And they lost.

What a shame.

And before you say it, yes Wales were pants losing to Fiji.

ok first 4 line outs saffas won then we got our game together scrums were on par. And your right we lost they won you were cr*p and went home early. Anyway back to your Jpr videos leave the big stuff to the teams that can play under pressure.


speye91 21 October 2007 02:01 AM

MY WORLD CUP PARTY ENDED 20 MINS AGO.

Sorry caps im a bit pished.

Thing that had ne in fits of laugter was..............

Percy....:lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

What a fecking name for a rugbyplayer.:luxhello: :luxhello:

Kit B 21 October 2007 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by 84of300 (Post 7346214)
His foot wasn't on the line when the ball was down. Am I missing something :)

When the shot is shown from the back his foot touches the line ...Nice and clear for all you guys who are sick as parrots.....:luxhello:

The Rig 21 October 2007 08:43 AM

that game summed up why i dont usually watch rugby,but since i support any sport where england are playing i watched the games/final,kinda got into it,but the game last night brought me back home why i dont follow rugby.

they say football is bad, i mean, how many penalties ???

for what,not being all clued up on rugby seemed like soft decisions and WTF from me.

and the try we got, i mean,christ,because of a few mm of leg not in the air or his knee or what the hell it was that caused us not to get it, i mean, WTF,at least in football theres some leaway for christ sakes !

if we did get the try,we could of won it,moral etc might of grown etc.

but hey,back to the footie for me,shame,but thats life.

Trout 21 October 2007 09:11 AM

Rig boy,

in rugby there is no leeway because the rules are much simpler. If the ball or any part of the ball carrier touches the line then the ball is in touch. Very simple and clear.

In football the ball has to be mostly over the line (throw in) or all over the line (goal) Plenty of room for judgement calls, good and bad.

Also all the penalties were clear. If you listen to the ref he calls out whether players are offside or handling the ball incorrectly long before he blows.

Last night, "6 white, hands off the ball; 6 white hands off the ball! Whistle, penalty"

Plenty of warning and yet we still gave away a sitter!

The Rig 21 October 2007 09:18 AM

yup,hear what your saying,i couldnt follow the sport with those rules,far too frustrating for me !!!

at least in football a penalty/free kick is for an obvious foul (or a good faker LOL) but half the penalties,if u didnt hear the ref like u say,im watching a pack of guys wrestle then suddenly a penalty is given and im like WTF

but hey,if you like it and all that.........

cheers

_RIP_ 21 October 2007 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by ************** (Post 7346223)
Yes you are, the video ref was Australian and the pitch ref Irish, enough said ;)

Oh come on Bob! Is there anyone else you've left out? The jocks the aussies and the Irish all conspiring against poor ickle England. :D


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