so back to the megane.
i drove one a while back when lookin for a replacement for my JDM.i thought it was slow and handled like a bus,chronic understeer (just after the saleman had finnished telling me how well it handled). prefered the ST200 bt ended up buying a 380hp classic:) |
Originally Posted by MrRA
(Post 6965987)
I suppose it all depends on what rolling road though. On Powerstations rollers mine made 342.4 BHP (corrected engine power) which apparently equated to 195.2 BHP ATW, which is way more than 19%, but then again their setup is supposedly pessimistic to say the least.
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Treehack a 380bhp classic what mods did/has that little puppy have/got.As for the Megane I played with My classic must be Quicker as back in feb On the way to a Funeral in Great Barr Birmingham had a little play with a focus rs (before I had my Boost controller fitted and had it mapped) and was pulling away from that on the m50.
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Followed a Megane 225 & a new shape Golf GTi today going home from work. Both were fast as they were gunning it :) I prefered the look of the Megane. Nice looking cars.
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Don't like the back end of the megane.But I hope the owner of the megane likes the back end of a scooby as he will be having a good look the next time I see him conditions permitting.:lol1: :lol1:
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Originally Posted by Luminous
(Post 6968085)
Good god that is a 43% transmission loss :eek2:
Something is wrong with that info... https://img58.imageshack.us/img58/14...02largera9.jpg |
^^ That's the spirit Gonzo ;)
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How do you solve the transmission problem?Is it as simple as a new gearbox if so how much and what kind do you go for in order to solve the problem.
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Well mine was "only" 19% at Surrey Rolling Road :)
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Originally Posted by MrRA
(Post 6968523)
I think so too, but I'm stating what is on my printout. I know PS's rollers are said to be pessimistic, but that is just downright depressing.[/img]
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
(Post 6968552)
Well mine was "only" 19% at Surrey Rolling Road :)
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Do RRs actually measure transmission losses or do they simply multiply the whp by a pre-specified percentage (ie an estimate of likely transmission losses) to arrive at the bhp at the fly ?
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Originally Posted by GONZO01
(Post 6967948)
So standard s205 or standard uk scooby from a standing start mate.
I swapped to an STi when a ppp'd classic gave me a right whooping! & when i got to drive a workmates P1 :D |
Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
(Post 6968632)
Do RRs actually measure transmission losses or do they simply multiply the whp by a pre-specified percentage (ie an estimate of likely transmission losses) to arrive at the bhp at the fly ?
imho RR's are pretty useless unless you used the same one before your mods, or if you have a standard car there to use as a yard stick |
no 2 rr's are going to ever show the same results thats just a fact of life but it gives a rough idea as to what to expect. they should only be used to mesure the improvements of mods ore to fault find as its really how a car acts on the road that matters. numbers are just numbers and nothing else.
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Originally Posted by amazingjames
(Post 6970434)
.... numbers are just numbers and nothing else.
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Originally Posted by GONZO01
(Post 6964810)
I had a play this evening on a bypass with a Renault Megane sport 225.We both came off a roundabout was'nt going to play as I was to busy singing along to a cd.I was in third he undertook me changed down and booted it so I thought why not forgot to change down the box put my foot down and I could'nt catch him:eek2: F**K it was a quick car:eek2: at the end of the bypass he informed me it was a 225 megane sport both had a laugh and went our seperate ways.Didn't realise how quick they were mine is running just over 255bhp and as I said I couldn't catch him time for more mods me thinks.Would off probably been a different story from a standing start though I think.:lol1:
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Originally Posted by reano
(Post 6970734)
lol what a quote but numbers usually relate to something. I bet yhou would prefer these numbers 3.5 rather than 10.6 when related to your 0 - 60 time. Or try this 9 inches or 2 inches which would you prefer to have :norty: . Numbers are just numbers but in the right situations mean a lot. I wouldn't mind someone giving me the 6 numbers for saturdays Lottery draw ...... SO numbers on a rolling road to have a lot of importance in the right circumstances ...
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Originally Posted by GONZO01
(Post 6968106)
Treehack a 380bhp classic what mods did/has that little puppy have/got..
• Hybrid FMIC • Apexi power FC ecu - mapped by Simon • Apexi AVC-R boost controller • TD05/06 20g turbo • APS circ/re-circ dump valve • K&N induction kit • Gruppe-s unequal length stainless headers • Helix flexi up-pipe • 3" full de-cat system • NGK PFR7b plugs • Walboro 255l/hr fuel pump • SX Adjustable pressure regulator and gauge • Lateral 800cc matched injectors • Stainless braided flexi fuel lines • 8 point earthing kit • Breather mod RCM uprated oil pump AP Organic Racing clutch 8kg lightened fly wheel |
i questioned powerstation about there wheel figures when mine was mapped and apparently there final figure is an actual to the road figure taking into account rolling resistance, wind resistance and weight resistance. so its not an actual atw power but a "at the driving seat" power.
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Originally Posted by Evo IX MR RS
(Post 6971344)
This is when it is time to sell your scobby and buy a EVO:luxhello:
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Originally Posted by treehack
(Post 6971438)
just a few mods mate
• Hybrid FMIC • Apexi power FC ecu - mapped by Simon • Apexi AVC-R boost controller • TD05/06 20g turbo • APS circ/re-circ dump valve • K&N induction kit • Gruppe-s unequal length stainless headers • Helix flexi up-pipe • 3" full de-cat system • NGK PFR7b plugs • Walboro 255l/hr fuel pump • SX Adjustable pressure regulator and gauge • Lateral 800cc matched injectors • Stainless braided flexi fuel lines • 8 point earthing kit • Breather mod RCM uprated oil pump AP Organic Racing clutch 8kg lightened fly wheel |
Originally Posted by GONZO01
(Post 6971724)
What gearbox did you have and could I get all those mods for 4k and if so where do I go pal.:)
the mods don't run just to the engine tho |
Cool thanks for the advice.It would also be much appreicated if you could help me on my other thread ''What would you do'' in a way it relates to this one:lol1:
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Mmmmm :wonder:
So the RR tells me power at the wheels then they just guess what the flywheel power is by assuming a %age! How do I find out for certain then? If my car is 300bhp at wheels then I'd like to know if AN Others Megane is much, much less ;) TX.
Originally Posted by DazW
(Post 6969066)
They just measure whp & 'guestimate' the fly figure ...obviously the higher the transmission loss they dial in, the more 'optimistic' the fly result ...this tends to happen just after you've had some mods fitted by them ;) ;)
imho RR's are pretty useless unless you used the same one before your mods, or if you have a standard car there to use as a yard stick |
Originally Posted by amazingjames
(Post 6971402)
i got 343 on tritons rr and 337 on wrc tech so as i sais there just numbers that mean nothing. i am 6'7 and if i mesure myself on some1 elses tape im still 6'7
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Originally Posted by GONZO01
(Post 6964810)
I had a play this evening on a bypass with a Renault Megane sport 225.We both came off a roundabout was'nt going to play as I was to busy singing along to a cd.I was in third he undertook me changed down and booted it so I thought why not forgot to change down the box put my foot down and I could'nt catch him:eek2: F**K it was a quick car:eek2: at the end of the bypass he informed me it was a 225 megane sport both had a laugh and went our seperate ways.Didn't realise how quick they were mine is running just over 255bhp and as I said I couldn't catch him time for more mods me thinks.Would off probably been a different story from a standing start though I think.:lol1:
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does the megane still have the big ar5e
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Originally Posted by alanbell
(Post 6972152)
I had one of these for 2 days not so long ago :sleep: I was glad to give it back , And get into mine :thumb:
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Originally Posted by stara
(Post 6972157)
does the megane still have the big ar5e
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
(Post 6972051)
How do I find out for certain then?
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