yawn, here we go again

i think youll find the wheels on the A4 2.5 tdi are wider than the ones on my car anyway ;)

Just jumping on the scoobynet band wagon.....

I might have one but i hate them, they are crap, they break down alot they are slow they look **** and are driven by chavs
Just getting with the scoobynet community.......

riiiiiiiight, you obviously think all your purchases through thoroughly then......

not everyone of SN feels the need to bash everyone elses choice of car :)

???why sit on here wasting your time slagging off your crap car to us who think they are actually quite good. I'm sure there's an A4 forum somewhere that you can share your passion of chipped oil burners with some sales rep called Brian from Cleethorpes.

Seriously, we know your opinion now, thanks

sorry but no way an A4 2.5TDI can do 0-60 in under 5 seconds!! They may well catch u off boost but cannot pull 4.62 sec 0-60 runs unless u stick nitrous on!! They are quick but I have not had any 'scares' off any! Its also FWD so coming off a roundabout they understeer like hell. As to original question a 310bhp WRX should leave an STI PPP though not by much. As above STI is heavier but close ratio box helps. Even the WRX PPP is quite quick though none have stayed with my STI PPP. Having owned both I would say most fun would be STI PPP as when it comes on boost it never fails to make me grin. And gearbox is so much better. Handling wise I preferred the WRX which seemed to grip so much better. STI is very tail happy and easily provoked into oversteer. Overall get an STI!!!!

i think most of the 2.5s are quattro IIRC, so they do handle ok.

my thread was about WRX vs STI ?? not subarus Vs Audis ?:lol: :lol:

Scoobies dont look ****.. turbo diesels with black smokes coming out of the exhaust are worst :D

oh.. and if you do service your subaru well enough i doubt it will break down ;)

Just going by one my mate owns. Handling on it is that of heavy saloon FWD car. Quattro versions may well be lots better but no way on earth that they gonna outgun a Scoob. Repect that they are a great diesel car but I have not seen any winning rallies lately....

STi would also be a standard ppp car whereas the WRX is at the top of its safe tuning range IMHO

As above mate. STI is totally different car IMO. If its the quickest car ur after go for the 310bhp WRX. If its the full on driving experience get the STI which I find much more entertaining than my WRX.

Exactly. I would not want to take WRX much higher than 310bhp as it must be pushing limits. STI is much stronger (85% different engine according to Subaru) and drivetrain able to cope with lots more

If ever a diesel kept up with my wrx classic I'd sell it.













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:lol1: I want some of what he's taking :D

If an A4 2.5tdi is keeping up with an STi then the STi driver is not using the right gears. The A4 does 0-60 in 6.8s as standard which is certainly very good for a diseasel, and a chip may well improve that but it certainly does not mean the A4 will do 0-60 in under 5 seconds.

The A4 is a good car and performs very well for a diesel, but I don't quite understand why you are making such a big point about it having relatively good performance in comparison to an impreza. They are two very different cars and people will buy both based on their own tastes and requirements.

If you don't like the impreza that's fine, everyone has their own tastes, but if you're going to make pointless posts slagging it off you might as well fcuk off to another forum where people might actually care what you have to say ;)

Come down to Bedford or some such place and i'll have a crack in my 420SLi if you like :D

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the wrx has the following mods.:

ported VF34
ported headers + uppipe both wraped
prodrive sports cat
prodrive cat replacement
3'' cat back
STI 8 intercooler
STI 8 pink injectors
Green panel filter
ECUTEK3 with 310/300 @ standard boost
AP 6 pots
adj suspension

with this spec how will it do against a STI PPP ?

define standard boost? i find it hard to think youd get anywhere near 310 with 0.95 bar ;)

what i mean standard boost is 1.2bar :D

How would I know and who cares? ........ Both cars similar power, one slightly lighter than the other, both dependant on who plants their right foot first and how good the gear changes are ........At the end of the day one you can take to your local Subaru / Audi / Proton / VW dealer and sell, the other you cant......

Gary

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What planet are you from? the new Audi A4 2.5 tdi Quattro has only 127 kW or 170 HP @ 4000 rpm and isnt exactly a lightweight: 1,590 kg.
Top speed: 221.0 km/h (137.3 mph)
0-100 km/h (0-62 mph): 8.4 seconds
Power/weight ratio: 0.1082 PS/kg

These cars are on every corner around here, straight line, traffic lights, AB, or Twisties these cars wont have a chance against any Turbo Scooby. Even chipped, like my Brother in laws its still slow (ok its quick for a diesel). Put your brain into gear before posting.

Every now and again, someone says that, but I've never come across one of these mythical VAG diesels on the road.

As for A4 2.5TDis keeping up with STis. The one I came across on the way to York a fortnight ago, couldn't keep up with my Hirsch Stage 1 Saab 9-5 Estate (with auto box)... :lol1:

It'll win :D

BTW lets all just say that the Scooby is ****, not fast unreliable can be outdragged by a Morris Minor and that we're very stupid to have spent so much on them etc... and then maybe all the trolls will leave. :lol1:

Ns04

Right you dickheads!
It seems quite clear that none of you have ever come across a chipped 2.5 vw/audi TDI with over 220 bhp and enougth torque to pull tree stumps!, coupled with very good handling and huge tyres they will make you look stupid!
Or may be the diesel is better than optimax around here............:confused:

Can it go round corners? can it brake?

Personally I am sick of TDi F****wits, usually reps or with the wife and 4 kids in the back thinking they can harrass me to push my sti PPP over a ton on a busy dual carraigeway. Maybe they have special licences issued by VAG to drive like that??

Let them follow me onto the twisties and see how they get on perhaps?

How to win friends and influence... :rolleyes:

Exactly my point!, they can hassel you in standard form on any trunk road..... chipped they can make you look stupid.
The twisties are another matter, but then some spotty kid in a 106/306/proton GTI will go round them like they are in a GO KART and make you look stupid there!

Then of course there are the civic type Rs that will when tuned make you look stupid on any trunk road but will still leave you on any twisty bits like a GO KART!

DISCUSS

Pete is that you??? :lol1:

Ns04

They only hassle me by driving too close too fast, hopefully it will be you behind me one day when I "test" my brakes.

Civic Type R when tuned - interesting... 200+ brake through 2 front wheels? I know which I'd prefer on twisties.:Whatever_

Proton Gti? bless....was it you that bought one?

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You cannot argue with mindless idiots........ they just drag you down to their level!

I have stated what are true facts, i have nothing else to say:sleep:

Ah well glad to see that an otherwise normal thread turns into another scooby bashing :Whatever_

Its saturday night mate get a life