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hedgecutter 20 June 2020 09:14 AM

Great thread. Do you map it yourself?

Mike L 20 June 2020 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by hedgecutter (Post 12083720)
Great thread. Do you map it yourself?


i do tweaks if required at the track, happy to add sensors and set up the DBW myself.

But the main mapping is now done by Edd fusion motorsport.

Mike L 21 June 2020 11:53 AM

Refitted the rack in the tubular subframe yesterday one of the hard pipes on the rack needs re-routing but there is space to run my power steering lines under the car to my electro-hyd pump this keep all the lines away from the exhaust and turbo :)


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Mike L 21 June 2020 12:02 PM

Also started fitting the wisefab uprights they have the equivant of raising the wheel bearing 50mm, Ie all supension arms are at the designing angles with the car set 50mm lower.

They also have adjustment to allow be to remove bump steer



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Mike L 21 June 2020 12:03 PM

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lockheed 22 June 2020 06:30 PM

So Mike you have gone from an abs delete to an M5 system , im guessing this because its less intrusive ? I have AP six pots on the front and the abs is very intrusive .

Mike L 22 June 2020 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by lockheed (Post 12083890)
So Mike you have gone from an abs delete to an M5 system , im guessing this because its less intrusive ? I have AP six pots on the front and the abs is very intrusive .


road going ABS is not the best when you change things out also designed to allow best stability in an emergency but at the expense of breaking performance.

The M5 motorsport system is designed for best braking performance but not as stable (assumes you can drive!)

you can also set up car weight, track, wheel weight, etc etc in the system. There are then 11 levels of ABS so you can adjust to your liking and maby have different setting for wet and dry.

lockheed 22 June 2020 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Mike L (Post 12083903)
road going ABS is not the best when you change things out also designed to allow best stability in an emergency but at the expense of breaking performance.

The M5 motorsport system is designed for best braking performance but not as stable (assumes you can drive!)

you can also set up car weight, track, wheel weight, etc etc in the system. There are then 11 levels of ABS so you can adjust to your liking and maby have different setting for wet and dry.

Thanks for that, i can drive a bit although im no Dale Gent or Steven Darley.
Sounds like an excellent system. Its not a common thang tho , is it ?

Mike L 22 June 2020 09:17 PM

It's a amazing bit of kit I cannot wait to give it a try :)

i think steven has on in his car and I know Damian has one in his legacy but other than that not many around.

I remember taking to Phil Glew when he was driving the Zen performance Impreza at time attack and he was the one that said, the one thing the zen car needed was a motorsport ABS. after hearing that & looking into it I wanted to get one, and now several years later I have.

stockcar 23 June 2020 08:34 AM

not sure if you got sussed Mike but I have those adaptors to one side for you still...........

Mike L 23 June 2020 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by stockcar (Post 12083933)
not sure if you got sussed Mike but I have those adaptors to one side for you still...........


:) you read my mind I am planning to call you today !

Mike L 28 June 2020 02:32 PM

AS performance have supplied me with some ABS adaptors to I can run the Bosch ABS sensors I have had to adjust the fronts slightly (Wisefab fault not AS performance) they fitted the standard hubs correctly.


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Just a slight adjustment to OD then I checked for sensor clearance should be 0.8 mm +_ 0.1 mm and that was spot on :)


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stockcar 29 June 2020 08:47 AM

good to hear Mike.........

Itamar_M 09 July 2020 05:28 AM

Wow! Very nice!

What tubular subframes are those?


Mike L 11 July 2020 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Itamar_M (Post 12085166)
Wow! Very nice!

What tubular subframes are those?


they are Andy Hughes subframes

Mike L 11 July 2020 12:20 PM

Finished off the front end this week over a couple of evenings


i have have used the original ABS sensor mounting brackets and cut off and reused the gromit to keep the cables tidy.

also made up a new power steering line hard pipe as the original hit the new subframe


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Mike L 11 July 2020 12:23 PM

front brakes refitted all straight forward on these version two front uprights (the 1 verson of the wisefab upright this was an issue apparently with after market brackets)


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Itamar_M 11 July 2020 12:32 PM

:luvlove::luvlove::luvlove:

IainMilford 11 July 2020 12:32 PM

Looks good mike, looking forward to hearing how it all goes when set up, must be time for a track day soon :D

Mike L 11 July 2020 12:41 PM

While the turbo was out for sorting the ABS piping and wiring, I have decided to update the turbo a little too :)

Still using the same exhaust housing and set up, but a new core and compressor side.

Turbine side is a newer 9 blade high flow design

compressor is 2mm bigger 84mm compared to the old 82mm


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Mike L 19 July 2020 01:02 PM

I have finished all the break hard lines now ABS just needs power supply and rear wheel sensors fitted now. Just waiting for the wisefab rear uprights before I can fit the rear sensors.

I have also also removed the rear subframe. The new tubular one will require some cutting of the rear spare wheel well but should be ok to keep standard fuel tank.


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Mike L 25 July 2020 11:21 AM

Rear subframe is now in, I went for standard height mount so I could keep the standard fuel tank. Will be correcting supension angles on the rear uprights too. Wisefab rear upright should be here on Monday.


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bloomydj 06 August 2020 07:02 AM

Some very impressive work there Mike, I’ve also got some of Andy’s subframes to go on, currently looking into the wisefab hubs.. where did you get yours ?

Mike L 06 August 2020 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by bloomydj (Post 12087247)
Some very impressive work there Mike, I’ve also got some of Andy’s subframes to go on, currently looking into the wisefab hubs.. where did you get yours ?


i got them through steve SMG, he has worked with them to sort the issues they had with the initial designs.
He checks them before sending too one of my rears Steve fitted sleves to the lower bolt holes ( the long bolt) as there they were a little loose. One of the issues they had in the passed was the rears were welded after machining and some became distorted, they have changed the process now but Steve checks them for roundness too :)

bloomydj 06 August 2020 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by Mike L (Post 12087249)
i got them through steve SMG, he has worked with them to sort the issues they had with the initial designs.
He checks them before sending too one of my rears Steve fitted sleves to the lower bolt holes ( the long bolt) as there they were a little loose. One of the issues they had in the passed was the rears were welded after machining and some became distorted, they have changed the process now but Steve checks them for roundness too :)

thanks for the info Mike good to know :thumb:

Mike L 06 August 2020 01:29 PM

Rear wisefab hubs are on now, new bearing and seals fitted, I cleaned out the standard grease from the bearings and re-greased them with redline CV2

the he wisefab hub use the original back plates for the hand break but the calliper mounts are cut of as the bolt directly to the upright


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Mike L 09 August 2020 11:29 AM

Rear uprights fitted really sorts the lower link angles.

Rear ABS sensors fitted well with the AP performance adaptors.


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Mike L 09 August 2020 11:37 AM

rear diff is now built up with a Kazz 1.5 way


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Mike L 09 August 2020 11:39 AM

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lockheed 09 August 2020 05:13 PM

Great work ... id give my left bollock for a workshop like yours , is that a lathe you have in your earlier photo ?


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