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Martin2005 23 March 2018 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by Reinhold (Post 12001831)
What an odd attitude, constantly playing down your own country's great achievements. The reason the Russians defeated the Germans is because they were constantly supplied by British sailors, which even they eventually admitted, but you choose to ignore that. It's fortunate for you that your countrymen had a lot more grit and self-belief than you seem to possess. Strange that a foreigner should think more highly of Great Britain than a Brit.

Sorry I thought we were having a serious discussion. My mistake.

Reinhold 23 March 2018 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 12001832)
Sorry I thought we were having a serious discussion. My mistake.


Sorry, I thought you were a serious person. My mistake.

Martin2005 23 March 2018 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by Reinhold (Post 12001840)
Sorry, I thought you were a serious person. My mistake.

I really don't understand why you're taking issue with this.
I'd like to know what you are taking such offence too?

All I've done is state fairly basic historial facts. This is a subject of much interest to me, and it strikes me as odd that you are trying to insult me, for reasons I don't comprehend.

You've somehow equated pointing out facts with being unpatriotic, which is odd in the extreme.

alcazar 24 March 2018 11:21 AM

Take a look at French history.

Now your average frenchman is VERY patriotic...hence the reason why their history now states that it was the French who liberated Paris and defeated the Germans in France...with a little help from their friends the Americans.

So if you tell them any "facts", you're not a patriot.

And don't even get me started on how many of 'em were supposedly in the resistance.....

hodgy0_2 29 March 2018 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by An0n0m0us (Post 12001642)
Hodgy who has compared Russia to Nazi Germany? Certainly wasn't Boris.

Asked by Labour MP Ian Austin at Parliament's Foreign Affairs Committee whether Russia's hosting of the games was comparable to Nazi Germany's hosting of the Olympic games, Johnson replied that the comparison was "certainly right.

"I think the comparison with 1936 is certainly right. It is an emetic prospect to think of Putin glorifying in this sporting event," he told Austin.

An0n0m0us 30 March 2018 12:00 AM

Yes comparing how Hitler used the Olympics to distract from his politics to how Putin will use the World Cup in the same way. That is not saying Putin is the same as Hitler in any other respect. The comparison is spot on.

Martin2005 30 March 2018 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by An0n0m0us (Post 12002932)
Yes comparing how Hitler used the Olympics to distract from his politics to how Putin will use the World Cup in the same way. That is not saying Putin is the same as Hitler in any other respect. The comparison is spot on.

Hitler wasn't trying to 'distract' anyone. It was the glorification of the Third Reicht, and superiority of the Aryan race, he was interested in.

If Putin is doing the same, then why the hell are we going? Maybe Boris sees the England football team as the Jesse Owens of the tournament😀

dpb 04 April 2018 07:05 PM

More of a farce with every passing day

The Trooper 1815 04 April 2018 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 12003881)
More of a farce with every passing day

In what way?

The Trooper 1815 04 April 2018 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 12002990)
Hitler wasn't trying to 'distract' anyone. It was the glorification of the Third Reicht, and superiority of the Aryan race, he was interested in.

If Putin is doing the same, then why the hell are we going? Maybe Boris sees the England football team as the Jesse Owens of the tournament😀

GB went to Berlin in 36. Your point is?

dpb 04 April 2018 10:49 PM

Boris appears to be indulging in a little propaganda of his own!

Martin2005 04 April 2018 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815 (Post 12003919)
GB went to Berlin in 36. Your point is?

My point is that if BJ thinks Putin is doing a 'Hitler' using the WC for his own glorification then why are we going?

Paben 05 April 2018 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 12002990)
Hitler wasn't trying to 'distract' anyone. It was the glorification of the Third Reicht, and superiority of the Aryan race, he was interested in.

If Putin is doing the same, then why the hell are we going? Maybe Boris sees the England football team as the Jesse Owens of the tournament😀


Why Jesse Owens? Hitler refused to shake hands with him but he shook hands with no other athletes either, not even Germans. Jesse Owens' poor treatment occurred in the USA, when, being black, he had to enter the White House via the back door not the front.

Martin2005 05 April 2018 12:36 AM


Originally Posted by Paben (Post 12003928)
Why Jesse Owens? Hitler refused to shake hands with him but he shook hands with no other athletes either, not even Germans. Jesse Owens' poor treatment occurred in the USA, when, being black, he had to enter the White House via the back door not the front.

OK so apart from being factually incorrect, you seem to be suggesting that Hitler was the egalitarian.

OK that's news, and therefore, what was Boris banging on about?

Matty81 05 April 2018 08:18 AM

And May whilst they are at it!

The Trooper 1815 05 April 2018 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 12003922)
My point is that if BJ thinks Putin is doing a 'Hitler' using the WC for his own glorification then why are we going?

Which bit of "the same reason we went to the 1936 Olympics" are you not getting?

Martin2005 05 April 2018 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815 (Post 12003969)
Which bit of "the same reason we went to the 1936 Olympics" are you not getting?

eh?

Paben 05 April 2018 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 12003932)
OK so apart from being factually incorrect, you seem to be suggesting that Hitler was the egalitarian.

OK that's news, and therefore, what was Boris banging on about?


'OK so apart from being factually incorrect'. That's a good one, it should be Boris's opening line after all his statements! :lol1:


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