Originally Posted by joz8968
(Post 11853926)
Touche! :D
That said, either are deemed okay to use in British English. But I never (intentionally) do... Gotta keep it real. ;) |
Originally Posted by markjmd
In my case I can promise you it's 100% intentional. I didn't sit through three years of Greek at school for nothing ;)
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Originally Posted by neil-h
That's one :lol1: I swear at one point everything was a "first world problem"...
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Originally Posted by joz8968
(Post 11853923)
Yeah, ironic often gets wrongly used.
TBF, I can be guilty of that from time to time. :o |
lol
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Originally Posted by joz8968
(Post 11853924)
Totes.
^^^ In light of this thread, that is ironic. ;) ...Er, I think. lol ^^^ Again! :lol1: |
Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 11853913)
Ive often found that people for whom English is a second language tend to write/speak it better than those for whom it's their first. Funny thing really.
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Originally Posted by joz8968
(Post 11853912)
Also phrases such as "could of" (instead of "could have" or "could've"), as already remarked upon. Sadly, evidently, it's the SN phrase of choice. :D. |
Thing is, and I hope they don't mind, I've noted that both hodgy and Martin are 'serial offenders' of the "could of", "would of", etc. And, of course, they are FAR from 'thick' or uneducated!
So the 'endemic' lol is not exclusively tied to the 'less schooled', shall we say. I think, for the most part, it's simply not thinking/processing. Which is fine. It's not as if we're in a school exam, after all. |
Originally Posted by joz8968
(Post 11853970)
Thing is, and I hope they don't mind, I've noted that both hodgy and Martin are 'serial offenders' of the "could of", "would of", etc. And, of course, they are FAR from 'thick' or uneducated!
So the 'endemic' lol is not exclusively tied to the 'less schooled', shall we say. I think, for the most part, it's simply not thinking/processing. Which is fine. It's not as if we're in a school exam, after all. |
Originally Posted by JTaylor
It's laziness. ;)
JT translating my post in just two simple words. :o |
Originally Posted by joz8968
(Post 11853970)
Thing is, and I hope they don't mind, I've noted that both hodgy and Martin are 'serial offenders' of the "could of", "would of", etc. And, of course, they are FAR from 'thick' or uneducated!
So the 'endemic' lol is not exclusively tied to the 'less schooled', shall we say. I think, for the most part, it's simply not thinking/processing. Which is fine. It's not as if we're in a school exam, after all. I do believe that these two are just flippant. They're not necessarily weak with their English. Other than that, I think they simply try to 'fit in' here to 'get through' the commons hence their slippery delivery with 'of' instead of 'have' and distinct lack of punctuation marks; mainly with Hodgy. The gentleman simply dislikes full stops. :D He's a top man, though. :cool: |
Originally Posted by joz8968
(Post 11853980)
lol
JT translating my post in just two simple words. :o |
Originally Posted by Turbohot
(Post 11853984)
That's why I've always maintained that having poor English doesn't mean that person is thick. They might be thick with their English but they might be really nice people with razor sharp wisdom; like our Hodgy and our Martin.
I do believe that these two are just flippant. They're not necessarily weak with their English. Other than that, I think they simply try to 'fit in' here to 'get through' the commons hence their slippery delivery with 'of' instead of 'have' and distinct lack of punctuation marks; mainly with Hodgy. The gentleman simply dislikes full stops. :D He's a top man, though. :cool: |
My kids both say "can I get" instead of "can I have" and it winds me up.
For example, my eldest, who keeps failing his English exams, will go into, for example, McDonald's, and when asked what he would like, will say "erm . . . . erm, can I get a twenty mcnugget share box please". Which leaves me thinking, yeah go on, feck off over that counter and fetch yourself them then, you fukin mcnugget" . . . . Teenagers! |
:lol:
At your own kid! Funny as. |
Originally Posted by JTaylor
(Post 11853988)
Quite. Glen Scrivener (my poet mate) uses awful text speak and appalling grammar when we're messaging, but has one of the finest commands of the language and a wonderful mind.
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Originally Posted by joz8968
(Post 11853993)
:lol:
At your own kid! Funny as. |
PMSL
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Originally Posted by WRXrowdy
(Post 11853991)
My kids both say "can I get" instead of "can I have" and it winds me up.
For example, my eldest, who keeps failing his English exams, will go into, for example, McDonald's, and when asked what he would like, will say "erm . . . . erm, can I get a twenty mcnugget share box please". Which leaves me thinking, yeah go on, feck off over that counter and fetch yourself them then, you fukin mcnugget" . . . . Teenagers! LOL I thought my son calling Bohemian Rhapsody the Bohemian Respiratory was bad! He was only 13, mind, and in his group of friends, good old Queen became quite trendy for some weird reason, then. I think it was to do with the repeated word: "Mama..." in the song, which might have sounded playful to that lot because they're trying to break away from their mamas at that age. |
Originally Posted by Turbohot
...I think it was to do with the repeated word: "Mama..." in the song, which might have sounded playful to that lot because they're trying to break away from their mamas at that age.
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Originally Posted by joz8968
(Post 11854004)
That's very 'Freudian' reasoning. :freak3:
It's a fact that from 12-13 on, boys tend to move on to other female figures, and rightly so. That's without Freud sticking his ore in. |
Oar.
The (teenage) 'change'. I remember it well. :o |
Originally Posted by joz8968
(Post 11854008)
The (teenage) 'change'.
I remember it well. :o Around that age when I was breaking away, I started to like a football player kid as well as a tennis player kid in school. Footballer one liked someone else, so I had to settle for the tennis one. Footballer is now an engineer. I saw the adult him on his push bike in India; about 20 years ago. The tennis player one is a doctor; somewhere in States. Never got to talk to him properly, ever. Just used to sit opposite to each other in the library. Dead quietly.....looking at the book and stealthily looking at each other occasionally. All bull$hit, man! Just fantasy times and nothing else. :lol1: |
Ahh the innocence. In my day if you were lucky a bird would put her hand in your trouser pocket. If you were double lucky you would have a hole in your pocket :)
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One word to sum up that period. Frustration.
lol |
...You wanted to 'mount' most things lol
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what winds me up is.....
when people say.. MY BAD & SEE YOU LATER |
First one, a recent Americanism.
Last one's been around since time immemorial. A recent alternative: See you in a bit. |
When I was new in the UK, I used to find 'Not too bad' a bit of a strange term. You ask someone: "How are you?". They say: "Not too bad, thanks.". What is that supposed to mean, hm? Are you saying that you're actually bad but not too bad? How should I appropriately respond to you, with that? Should I sympathise and say- "I'm sorry to hear that you're bad to some extent. What exactly happened?", or should I say- "Good to know that you're bad but not too bad. Let's have a cup of tea and a cake to celebrate it." ?? Very confusing, it was. :wonder:
In time, I've understood that it means that they're ok but don't want to brag about it. Therefore, I no more find this term ambiguous, offensive or simply annoying. |
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