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Indeed, you only need to watch a 40 year old episode of Yes Minister, or Yes Primeminister, to see how little politics really changes.
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This Corbyn fella just makes me think that Syriza has opened a UK office.
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One more endorsement from Tb liar :thumb:
the biggest champagne socialist in recorded history |
All I hear from the other election candidates is complaints about Corbyn, nothing what they can do, only how to stop him. Given his poll rating(Ahem, which we really believe) is now at over 50%, he is playing an excellent game, not joining in with the slagging off.
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Corbyn Labour leader? I'll place that order for the Allegro right away..
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Its amazing how couples look alike isnt it
Yvette cooper could almost be Balls sister |
Seemingly betting companies are paying out already that Corbyn will win!
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id love see him win , And fcuk over nulabia once an for all :thumb:
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Originally Posted by Paben
(Post 11714796)
The Tories rubbed their hands happily when Ed got the nod over David. They'll be doing somersaults if this guy is elected, he's Michael Foot resurrected. Ken's support just about rounds it off!
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He is different and away from the blaire /cameron Etonian image with his casuals and rugged beard
More like a traditional hard working labour man who has dissapeared since Prescott retired and was replaced by the eton crew He will struggle with the postion and I'm sure that many supporters will move over to ukip |
Corbyn has a lot of support from people of my generation (60+) and more importantly younger voters. They appreciate his straight talking, refusal to indulge in puerile attacks on his rivals, and policies that are aimed at improving the quality of life for all of us, not just the top 1%. What this country desperately needs is an effective and credible opposition party, and I think Corbyn could deliver that.
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He will come under relentless attack from people who want to keep the status quo, and who peddle the increasingly ridulous myth that all that's required to get on in life is "working hard"
I meet plenty of people who "work hard", in reality they are destined for a pretty precarious and fragil future As we carry on building a low wage, low skill, low aspiration economy |
I do think people are slowly waking up to this. In fact, I sometimes wonder if this present government will last the full term. I live in hope......
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11726418)
He will come under relentless attack from people who want to keep the status quo, and who peddle the increasingly ridulous myth that all that's required to get on in life is "working hard"
I meet plenty of people who "work hard", in reality they are destined for a pretty precarious and fragil future As we carry on building a low wage, low skill, low aspiration economy |
It's great to watch the so-called lefties running around foaming at the mouth in case a true left-wing politician is elected leader of a party that purports to be left-wing.
I sincerely hope Corbyn is elected leader as it will be truly catastrophic for the labour party. :thumb: |
Originally Posted by markjmd
(Post 11726522)
In your view, is Corbyn proposing anything that would change the facts on the ground, or would he merely be more open and honest than the rest about this being a myth?
http://www.theguardian.com/housing-n...-crisis-labour They obviously would not benefit me, as I have done OK out of the housing policies of the last 30 years - but I suspect I am in a pretty small minority |
The top brass are really panicked he might get in :eek:
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Quite a large minority of people in London can't even afford a room (in a flat) these days
The new norm is room sharing |
The housing situation in this country is scandalous. Selling off social housing stock and creating a free market for homes was, to put it mildly, an act of gross irresponsibility, for the sake of political dogma and cynical vote winning. Social housing that is secure and affordable is an essential part of the country's infrastructure. Houses are supposed to be homes, not an investment opportunity. Same goes for other infrastructure - water, power, railways.
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Yes I 100% agree
But I think people are so stupid they have simply bought the "hard work" narrative They fail to appreciate that the cards are well and truly stacked (against them) In a lot of ways, great for me and my children - the majority of the population, mmmmm I don't think so |
'Right to Buy' was never a good idea and is the only one of Maggie's legacies that bugged me then and still does now. Not a cynical act on her part but the cynic in me certainly saw the naivety of it - you rent out property to (often) non-achievers at considerably below the market rate, then offer to help them buy the same at considerably below the market rate. And then expect them to become proud, responsible home-owners rather than sell it on for a profit (read 'another free handout').
Daft policy because it places an unrealistic expectation of responsibility on people who just aren't that bright. And causes resentment amongst those slightly higher up the ladder who have paid the going rate for what they have. |
Originally Posted by Sad Weevil
(Post 11726395)
Farage has a lot of support from people of my generation (60+) and more importantly younger voters. They appreciate his straight talking, refusal to indulge in puerile attacks on his rivals, and policies that are aimed at improving the quality of life for all of us, not just the top 1%. What this country desperately needs is an effective and credible opposition party, and I think Farage could deliver that.
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Originally Posted by c_maguire
(Post 11726824)
'Right to Buy' was never a good idea and is the only one of Maggie's legacies that bugged me then and still does now. Not a cynical act on her part but the cynic in me certainly saw the naivety of it - you rent out property to (often) non-achievers at considerably below the market rate, then offer to help them buy the same at considerably below the market rate. And then expect them to become proud, responsible home-owners rather than sell it on for a profit (read 'another free handout').
Daft policy because it places an unrealistic expectation of responsibility on people who just aren't that bright. And causes resentment amongst those slightly higher up the ladder who have paid the going rate for what they have. This was never about "empowering the lower classes" a catchphrase I often here touted in the media. It was a cost saving exercise, and nothing more. |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11726698)
We'll an easy place to start would be his policies on housing
http://www.theguardian.com/housing-n...-crisis-labour They obviously would not benefit me, as I have done OK out of the housing policies of the last 30 years - but I suspect I am in a pretty small minority It makes no difference either way to me personally, but it would be interesting to see how this played out if he got in. |
Have you seen the way a modern flat/house is constructed!
Maybe it's efficient , but its almost like it's temporary. Until some new richer foreign landowner has the cash to raze the lot and build something permanent ..... A lot of council houses of 40 years ago are solid |
Originally Posted by ALi-B
(Post 11726851)
I can see why she did it though; Many council houses were and still are poorly/cheaply built crap that needed billions to renew or renovate. What better way to off load the long term costs of sorting/maintaining them and privatise as much of the crumbling terraces, slab concrete prefabs, and those nice but expensive to maintain garden city projects.
This was never about "empowering the lower classes" a catchphrase I often here touted in the media. It was a cost saving exercise, and nothing more. Thatcher had the same reservations as C.maguire, but she also understood homeowners were more likely to vote conservative And as Dpb has pointed out, most Council house built 40 years ago make the current crop of new builds look like cardboard boxes Anything that is not maintained goes to sh1t, and the councils had budgetary constraints that prevented them from doing just that |
Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
(Post 11726828)
Fixed that for you. The Ying and Yang as mentioned before.
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Can you imagine Trump and Corbyn in a 'special relationship'? :lol1:
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What became of dame Shirley. :wonder:
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Originally Posted by dpb
(Post 11726895)
What became of dame Shirley. :wonder:
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