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oliver dufresne 18 November 2014 04:31 PM

Scooby K,

What I meant was, service history is good, but if someone can show the same value of receipts as the value of the car, then you have to ask questions, like, AM I GOING TO NEED TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY TOO! to keep this thing on the road?
Or has it been so highly modded its unreliable. Unless you want somthing extreme for a specific purpose and then high maintenance might be a factor you account for , like track racing, or drag racing or off road hooning, whatever.

You need to start with service history, and it needs to be all accounted for.

A hawkeye JDM is a fairly new car, so as long as miles are reasonable and the owners are fairly low and it is fairly standard and you get to know the buyer a bit, you should be in for a good ride.
There's nothing to worry about in the car itself, except for if the car has been abused, that's why you need to do your home work.

But its not a cheap experience owning one, and hence why ownership can be quite short lived, I think a lot of people have always wanted one, but when the've had one for a year or so, then its time to move on, you have to be pretty committed to keep one, and I respect those that do.
In terms of being pinned in your seat, the twin scroll is a riot, you wont be disappointed, I guarantee that.

Anyway if you dont want one after a year of ownership, then you can always sell it. Having a scooby teaches you lots of other things, like how cheap other cars are to run, and you meet lots of good people on the hole.

fat-thomas 18 November 2014 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by oliver dufresne (Post 11563500)
Scooby K,

What I meant was, service history is good, but if someone can show the same value of receipts as the value of the car, then you have to ask questions, like, AM I GOING TO NEED TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY TOO! to keep this thing on the road?
Or has it been so highly modded its unreliable. Unless you want somthing extreme for a specific purpose and then high maintenance might be a factor you account for , like track racing, or drag racing or off road hooning, whatever.

You need to start with service history, and it needs to be all accounted for.

A hawkeye JDM is a fairly new car, so as long as miles are reasonable and the owners are fairly low and it is fairly standard and you get to know the buyer a bit, you should be in for a good ride.
There's nothing to worry about in the car itself, except for if the car has been abused, that's why you need to do your home work.

But its not a cheap experience owning one, and hence why ownership can be quite short lived, I think a lot of people have always wanted one, but when the've had one for a year or so, then its time to move on, you have to be pretty committed to keep one, and I respect those that do.
In terms of being pinned in your seat, the twin scroll is a riot, you wont be disappointed, I guarantee that.

Anyway if you dont want one after a year of ownership, then you can always sell it. Having a scooby teaches you lots of other things, like how cheap other cars are to run, and you meet lots of good people on the hole.

fairly new.............stopped making them 8 years ago:thumb:

scooby k 18 November 2014 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by oliver dufresne (Post 11563500)
Scooby K,

What I meant was, service history is good, but if someone can show the same value of receipts as the value of the car, then you have to ask questions, like, AM I GOING TO NEED TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY TOO! to keep this thing on the road?
Or has it been so highly modded its unreliable. Unless you want somthing extreme for a specific purpose and then high maintenance might be a factor you account for , like track racing, or drag racing or off road hooning, whatever.

You need to start with service history, and it needs to be all accounted for.

A hawkeye JDM is a fairly new car, so as long as miles are reasonable and the owners are fairly low and it is fairly standard and you get to know the buyer a bit, you should be in for a good ride.
There's nothing to worry about in the car itself, except for if the car has been abused, that's why you need to do your home work.

But its not a cheap experience owning one, and hence why ownership can be quite short lived, I think a lot of people have always wanted one, but when the've had one for a year or so, then its time to move on, you have to be pretty committed to keep one, and I respect those that do.
In terms of being pinned in your seat, the twin scroll is a riot, you wont be disappointed, I guarantee that.

Anyway if you dont want one after a year of ownership, then you can always sell it. Having a scooby teaches you lots of other things, like how cheap other cars are to run, and you meet lots of good people on the hole.


I enjoyed when I owned my Scooby, attracted nice attention and felt good everytime I started it up. So I have some experience and know what to expect as I'm looking to buy another one. Overall they are such nice cars to own and makes you feel like a beast on the road..

Carnut 18 November 2014 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11563476)
no try googling some more ;)

5th and 6th are shorter only

No need, i can just ask on here as I've done:thumb:

GC8 19 November 2014 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by Trinity (Post 11562509)
The Japanese treat their cars impeccably, more so than UK Owners, and the climate is fairer and the roads much better.

To be safe, avoid a modified one -

A JDM car is far more reliable than a UK car, I assure you of that.

They are exported for multiple reasons, and not because they want to get rid of them,

1, the stringent japanese MOT style test on cars over a certain age is brutal, most just trade in for a new one
2, They are right hand drive, therefore there is a market overseas for them in the likes of the UK and Oz, therefore a market was created, making owners see it as another way to trade in and trade up
3, There is a status system in Japan, old cars don't cut the mustard

Theres a troll who knocks around on this forum saying we receive all Japans cast offs, which in a way he is right, but for the above reasons, not because they are fooked. And the best bit, you get a BETTER car as standard than any of the UK spec poverty offerings. Whats not to love!

The cars are sold in open auctions. Cars which come to the UK were exported only because someone offered more than a domestic dealer.

There are plenty of cars which will attract sufficiently high bids from domestic buyers to remain in Japan.

On the other hand: many of the cars sold here came from docks auctions and these were the crap from the Japanese market in many cases...


Simon

ditchmyster 19 November 2014 02:06 AM

I think they are cheap to run if you buy right, mine has gone through 2 sets of tyres, 1 set of pads and service items such as oil and filters, I have spent roughly £700 all in keeping it on the road in just over 3 years and 20k miles, got my tyres and wheels cheap off here.

That said I have just spent £500 on springs and other "cough" enhancements.:lol1:

peter zippy reid 19 November 2014 06:27 AM

Oliver how does spending the same value as the car on parts make alarm bells go off for you i have owned my latest car 2 months and already spent a 1/3rd of its value it doesnt mean its going to cost me more to keep it on the road

BBB3 19 November 2014 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by Xline (Post 11563821)
Buy a UK model, replace the rear screen with a wipered one, tint the windows. Job done :thumb: ... this pisses off the JDM owners :)

JDMs have been imported at huge shipping and handling costs etc so any owners automatically think that theirs are "special". It's all the crap that wasn't worth keeping in Japan ;)


Yeah that really pisses me off :wonder:

I believe money making is the real reason why they are imported :thumb:

And mine is special :notworthy

The Trooper 1815 19 November 2014 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by Xline (Post 11563821)
Buy a UK model, replace the rear screen with a wipered one, tint the windows. Job done :thumb: ... this pisses off the JDM owners :)

JDMs have been imported at huge shipping and handling costs etc so any owners automatically think that theirs are "special". It's all the crap that wasn't worth keeping in Japan ;)

It seems there is a new phrase to be added to the ScoobyNet dictionary - JDM Envy. A bit like penis envy but smaller.

The Trooper 1815 19 November 2014 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11563298)
I know the newage JDM STI is different than the UK STI but are there any major differences between the JDM WRX and UK WRX?

The JDM WRX cars, even in GC Chassis type, are all better equipped as standard and for the willy wavers have higher BHP/Torque values than the normal UK Cars.

It's not just rear wipers you know, or perhaps you don't:sleep:

Good troll though Matt, but nowhere near as good as fat thomas.

Trinity 19 November 2014 04:04 PM

As we have said before, the troll who only realised that he bought the wrong car, after he bought it :)

Gotta love me rear wiper.....oh and that twinscroll.

fat-thomas 19 November 2014 04:26 PM

personally i dont like the rear wiper as it looks out of place on the newages, the proper jdm newages dont have it anyway.

as for twin scroll its a totally different power delivery to single much more linear and the sound is different,some prefer it others dont.

if you are keeping the car standard a jdm is better out the box but if your modifying its not going to make a lot of difference in the long run.

that said a pre 05 jdm car is probably worth the money over a uk car of the same year as it has dccd.

Trinity 19 November 2014 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11564140)
personally i dont like the rear wiper as it looks out of place on the newages, the proper jdm newages dont have it anyway.

as for twin scroll its a totally different power delivery to single much more linear and the sound is different,some prefer it others dont.

if you are keeping the car standard a jdm is better out the box but if your modifying its not going to make a lot of difference in the long run.

that said a pre 05 jdm car is probably worth the money over a uk car of the same year as it has dccd.

Who gives a s**t what it looks like, it clears my rear screen when its raining or dirty. Job done.

The only people who prefer the power delivery of a single scroll is a council estste chav wanting to 'feel the boooooosssstttt' or those who know no better (excluding 1/4 mile cars):lol1:

As for modifying, a JDM is a better start, you get a better engine, extra accessories, and a twinscroll set up out of the box.


JDM Envy.
It's an epidemic.

fat-thomas 19 November 2014 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Trinity (Post 11564150)
Who gives a s**t what it looks like, it clears my rear screen when its raining or dirty. Job done.

The only people who prefer the power delivery of a single scroll is a council estste chav wanting to 'feel the boooooosssstttt' or those know know no better (excluding 1/4 mile cars):lol1:

As for modifying, a JDM is a better start, you get a better engine, extra accessories, and a twinscroll set up out of the box.


JDM Envy.
It is an epidemic.

fair enough i was trying to offer a sensible opinion. jdm cars are not for everyone, i wouldnt buy one excluding the spec c or special editions but thats due to me being a modifier.
i do agree its a better car in standard form but then again id say a uk widetrack is a better car than a non widetrack jdm car.

scooby k 19 November 2014 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11564153)
fair enough i was trying to offer a sensible opinion. jdm cars are not for everyone, i wouldnt buy one excluding the spec c or special editions but thats due to me being a modifier.
i do agree its a better car in standard form but then again id say a uk widetrack is a better car than a non widetrack jdm car.


I always wondered, does the widetrack even make a difference.

Trinity 19 November 2014 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by scooby k (Post 11564173)
I always wondered, does the widetrack even make a difference.

I noticed no difference at all, but it maybe that I cant drive well enough to find it, subaru did it for a reason...but i may of had my attention taken away with the terrible turbo lag :)

fat-thomas 19 November 2014 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by scooby k (Post 11564173)
I always wondered, does the widetrack even make a difference.

its just an updated car really better interior and a few extras and suspension tweaks.

uk cars didnt have dccd up to the widetrack cars though,although the pre widetrack cars had smaller hubs and wheel bearings and they fail a lot. the widetrack car addressed this issue with bigger hubs and bearings.

Trinity 19 November 2014 05:17 PM

That is the only rear benefit is the centre console changes...JDM suspension is far superior over a uK set up for spirited driving. Pink JDM's are the suspension to have....can't believe I sold mine, gutted.

fat-thomas 19 November 2014 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Trinity (Post 11564177)
That is the only rear benefit is the centre console changes...JDM suspension is far superior over a uK set up for spirited driving. Pink JDM's are the suspension to have....can't believe I sold mine, gutted.

i think they all came with pink shocks, mine were pink when i swapped them out for coilovers anyway.
also the widetrack cars suspension is based on the spec c suspension.

Trinity 19 November 2014 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11564178)
i think they all came with pink shocks, mine were pink when i swapped them out for coilovers anyway.

Could quite be, i looked at 10 UK blobs before buying mine and i remember them only ever being black....but hey they swap stuff all the time

fat-thomas 19 November 2014 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by Trinity (Post 11564180)
Could quite be, i looked at 10 UK blobs before buying mine and i remember them only ever being black....but hey they swap stuff all the time

im only going on what mine had. not sure if maybe there was an option from new or possibly ppp pack as mine had that too .

Trinity 19 November 2014 05:23 PM

or that yours had JDM pinks fitted possibly?

fat-thomas 19 November 2014 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Trinity (Post 11564183)
or that yours had JDM pinks fitted possibly?

could be the car was four years old when i got it also had prodrive stamped on springs too.

i have lots of history of things being replaced or changed from the previous owner and no mention of anything shock related though.

peter zippy reid 19 November 2014 05:36 PM

My last car 05 sti had pink struts and pink springs my car was ppp now have 03 sti jdm with pink struts but black springs

Trinity 19 November 2014 05:38 PM

Mine where pink and pink..haha makes no sense

The Trooper 1815 19 November 2014 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by Trinity (Post 11564150)
Who gives a s**t what it looks like, it clears my rear screen when its raining or dirty. Job done.

The only people who prefer the power delivery of a single scroll is a council estste chav wanting to 'feel the boooooosssstttt' or those who know no better (excluding 1/4 mile cars):lol1:

As for modifying, a JDM is a better start, you get a better engine, extra accessories, and a twinscroll set up out of the box.


JDM Envy.
It's an epidemic.


I have rear wiper envy!

Trinity 19 November 2014 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815 (Post 11564198)
I have rear wiper envy!

http://d1435t697bgi2o.cloudfront.net...cebooklike.jpg

So does the troll :lol1:

banny sti 19 November 2014 08:53 PM

Love my type r with a type ra sticker on it, xline where you not meant to come round to remove it :p

Trinity 19 November 2014 10:37 PM

Damn, all that RD Subaru did to design a rear wiper, because it was needed and wanted...someone must tell the highly successful company that a troll in Kent says they got it all wrong.

oops, be careful not to reply y'all, as he will delete his thread shortly, just like the other 400 he deleted after embarrassing himself multiple times!

lol.

The Trooper 1815 20 November 2014 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Xline (Post 11564456)
Kent? Your stalking skills are poor.
How many rear wipers do you see on other high-end saloon cars?

We are discussing JDM cars and we like to see who we are leaving behind. But many of the performance cars have rear wipers.


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