Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11506465)
He needs to get a move on
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Originally Posted by stipete75
(Post 11506473)
Maybe he has more important things to worry about at the moment,, like dropping bombs on more innocent people:thumb:
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Sorry I forgot their are no innocent casualties of war.
My fcuking brain is like a sieve. |
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11506452)
War criminal? In what world is that correct?
Not as outlandish as you try and portray, plenty of very experienced and eminent barristers, specialising in international law are not as convinced as you, and all live in the "here and now", unlike Blair - who lives in lala land Not to mention some senior military personnel Below - from and old article Human rights lawyer Sir Geoffrey Bindman yesterday said there was a case for taking action against Mr Blair for waging an unlawful war. He said: “I would not be surprised if a prosecution were attempted in the UK. The difficulty would be to establish his personal responsibility for specific crimes against UK law.” Sir Geoffrey said there would be serious difficulties in making the case but these were not “insurmountable”. He added: “It’s very doubtful whether there’s a crime of aggression in domestic law, but that would be the most obvious criminal offence.” Fellow lawyer Philippe Sands QC, professor of international law at University College London, said Mr Blair could face prosecution in another country – and claimed the former PM had already started altering his travel arrangements as a result. Mr Sands said: “When Tony Blair travels he now gets legal advice on where he can go and the pattern of extradition agreements.” “I cannot think of a single international lawyer who thinks the war was lawful. Not a single name comes to mind. |
Originally Posted by stipete75
(Post 11506484)
Sorry I forgot their are no innocent casualties of war.
My fcuking brain is like a sieve. |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11506489)
Not as outlandish as you try and portray, plenty of very experienced and eminent barristers, specialising in international law are not as convinced as you, and all live in the "here and now", unlike Blair - who lives in lala land
Not to mention some senior military personnel Below - from and old article Human rights lawyer Sir Geoffrey Bindman yesterday said there was a case for taking action against Mr Blair for waging an unlawful war. He said: “I would not be surprised if a prosecution were attempted in the UK. The difficulty would be to establish his personal responsibility for specific crimes against UK law.” Sir Geoffrey said there would be serious difficulties in making the case but these were not “insurmountable”. He added: “It’s very doubtful whether there’s a crime of aggression in domestic law, but that would be the most obvious criminal offence.” Fellow lawyer Philippe Sands QC, professor of international law at University College London, said Mr Blair could face prosecution in another country – and claimed the former PM had already started altering his travel arrangements as a result. Mr Sands said: “When Tony Blair travels he now gets legal advice on where he can go and the pattern of extradition agreements.” “I cannot think of a single international lawyer who thinks the war was lawful. Not a single name comes to mind. Ask the Kosovans or Serria 'Leoneians' what they think of his 'war crimes' |
Originally Posted by jonc
(Post 11506494)
I think you'll find that it's the IS fighters that are doing the deliberate killing of innocent people, unless of course you have evidence to say otherwise.
I think you will find obamas bombs have killed many many more innocents. |
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11506501)
Well he's a serial offender then.
Ask the Kosovans or Serria 'Leoneians' what they think of his 'war crimes' |
Originally Posted by stipete75
(Post 11506504)
ISIS is a US/Israel engineered and trained army using jihadist fanatics and mercenaries.
I think you will find obamas bombs have killed many many more innocents. |
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11506501)
Well he's a serial offender then.
Ask the Kosovans or Serria 'Leoneians' what they think of his 'war crimes' |
Originally Posted by jonc
(Post 11506514)
A serial offender? Like Jimmy Savile then, ask the childrens charities what they think about his crimes.
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11506501)
Well he's a serial offender then.
Ask the Kosovans or Serria 'Leoneians' what they think of his 'war crimes' They have little relevance and would be pretty cold comfort to the millions of dead and injured Iraqis |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11506519)
A pretty weak argument tbh, we are not talking about those (and i agree more lawful/valid) interventions
They have little relevance and would be pretty cold comfort to the millions of dead and injured Iraqis BTW millions? |
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11506521)
Same doctrine, different outcome.
BTW millions? Millions, probably, they did not even bother to count the dead https://www.iraqbodycount.org/ Puts it at 200k dead, how many more injured who knows |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11506527)
Same doctrine, no - it was regime change in Iraq
Millions, probably, they did not even bother to count the dead How about apportioning the blame to thosec who actually did the killing? |
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11506531)
Same doctrine
How about apportioning the blame to thosec who actually did the killing? |
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11506531)
Same doctrine
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11506540)
And no - not the same doctrine as used in Sierra Leone etc
BTW - My views on Iraq at the time were entirely driven by my liberal outlook, the Iraqi people deserved so much better than living under the rule of a cruel dictator. The way things turned out was appalling. We totally messed up post war. For that Blair is undeniably responsible. |
I'm not sure how he hasn't been assassinated this far tbh
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Originally Posted by stipete75
(Post 11506506)
Your nothing but a paid internet shill, a puppet!
As for being paid; who should I send the invoice to? |
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11506564)
I don't even know what 'shill' is.
As for being paid; who should should I send the invoice to? |
Originally Posted by jonc
(Post 11506571)
It's probably something related to one of his many shadowy conspiracy theories. :lol1:
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Originally Posted by dpb
(Post 11506561)
I'm not sure how he hasn't been assassinated this far tbh
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Leave Martin alone StiPete, or he will either cry or call you names.
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Originally Posted by dpb
(Post 11506561)
I'm not sure how he hasn't been assassinated this far tbh
He is a government spy, they use people like Martin to work on lots of different social forums to try and show the government in a good light against the constant stream of negativity. Normally people like Martin do not have a choice in the matter, it's a case of work for us or we will prosecute you for the crimes that you have been caught for.:wonder: :D |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 11506723)
Leave Martin alone StiPete, or he will either cry or call you names.
If there was even a 2% chance that a bad thing to do with our government happened! surely it's worth looking in to.........nope not on martins watch! we are the tinfoil hat brigade not him! it's crazy haha |
Originally Posted by stipete75
(Post 11506849)
Haha, it just amazes me that no matter how negative or in the wrong people of power are he constantly try's to suger coat it.
If there was even a 2% chance that a bad thing to do with our government happened! surely it's worth looking in to.........nope not on martins watch! we are the tinfoil hat brigade not him! it's crazy haha |
Originally Posted by jonc
(Post 11506974)
Where as you on the other hand, if there is any negativity or wrongs committed by "people of power" there is a 100% chance that you'll concoct another ridiculous conspiracy theory with your buddies on a bodybuilding forum, so yes, you are fully fledged member of the tinfoil hat brigade. :thumb:
No brainwashed consuming sheeple here:thumb: Ps...do you love Martin? Do you desperately want his moobs in your mouth? If yes then I do apologise, if not then mind your own fooking business.:thumb: :lol1: |
Originally Posted by stipete75
(Post 11506980)
And proud of it!
No brainwashed consuming sheeple here:thumb: Ps...do you love Martin? Do you desperately want his moobs in your mouth? If yes then I do apologise, if not then mind your own fooking business.:thumb: :lol1: |
Originally Posted by stipete75
(Post 11506842)
What Martin???
He is a government spy, they use people like Martin to work on lots of different social forums to try and show the government in a good light against the constant stream of negativity. Normally people like Martin do not have a choice in the matter, it's a case of work for us or we will prosecute you for the crimes that you have been caught for.:wonder: :D |
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