What's the limit of the SC38?
Is 400/400 realistic on our engines? |
What would be gd pads instead of blue stuff on this type of setup. Won't be doing track days
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Performance discs and pads highly rated
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Pads are abit down on the back. Probably give Godspeed a call
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Just ordered by cobra exhaust turbo back with sports cat
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My not by,
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What!!!
Brembos will easily handle some hard abuse, with the right combination of disc, pad and fluid. |
Just pads refresh needed
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The problem with shooting for 400 bhp is not getting it, it's maintaining reliability once you have it...
To give an example, here is the parts list for my 53 plate bugeye making approx 420 bhp and 400+ lbft... EJ20 engine stroked to 2110cc Spec C short block Nitrided (forged) version 9 crank ACL main bearings and bottom end Oversized bore to 93.5mm to avoid piston slap and increase displacement Mahle forged pistons and Manley forged rods ARP head studs Roger Clark high pressure oil pump and oil cooler Tegiwa Imports oversized aluminium radiator Mishimoto radiator hoses Wiseco 1.3mm head gasket Cyclinder head overhaul tenors and skim titanium valve stems and retainers STI cams 18g vf34 hybid ball bearing turbo Walbro 255l fuel pump Deatsch Werks 750cc injectors Autobahn 88 inverted FMIC with custom short route pipework to meet reversed inlet manifold for quicker spooling. FMIC pipes also heat wrapped Silicon hoses everywhere. K&N induction kit, in-wing mounted OBP oil catch can with K&N breather Tiao blow off valve Roger Clark GT spec equal length exhaust manifold Full Mongoose 3 inch straight through exhaust. Exhaust Manifold, up pipes and down pipe heat wrapped Eibach lowering springs -10 mm on standard STI dampers Standard Brembo 4pots with 326mm drilled and groove disks EBC Yellow Stuff pads all round Expensive uprated clutch Decent tyres on standard STI wheels Probably a load of other things as well. Just shelled out for a set of Defi gauges to keep an eye on things... All in all it has reliable power and drives nicer than the standard car, but it's cost a small fortune in parts - luckily for me, the previous owner did most of this... :) |
Gd point.
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Fit some Performance Friction 2part discs and pads, not worth skimping on brakes if you can afford to spend the extra, even for road use, the difference between these and some grooved and drilled standard discs is night and day.
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Sell your brembo's and get some AP 4pots.;)
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Il have sell my wife and kids for parts for car
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Originally Posted by b3nmw
(Post 11506862)
Il have sell my wife and kids for parts for car
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I've heard that the US market for injectors is slightly better(?) than hours. If you were to bring some injectors back from the US to help make 400bhp on a Blob STI - what would you buy?
I don't even know if mine are side or top feed injectors :lol1: |
Exhaust
My 3" cobra exhaust came 2day. Mint
Another thing to tick off my list :lol1: |
Originally Posted by MrQaud
(Post 11505588)
The problem with shooting for 400 bhp is not getting it, it's maintaining reliability once you have it...
To give an example, here is the parts list for my 53 plate bugeye making approx 420 bhp and 400+ lbft... EJ20 engine stroked to 2110cc Spec C short block Nitrided (forged) version 9 crank ACL main bearings and bottom end Oversized bore to 93.5mm to avoid piston slap and increase displacement Mahle forged pistons and Manley forged rods ARP head studs Roger Clark high pressure oil pump and oil cooler Tegiwa Imports oversized aluminium radiator Mishimoto radiator hoses Wiseco 1.3mm head gasket Cyclinder head overhaul tenors and skim titanium valve stems and retainers STI cams 18g vf34 hybid ball bearing turbo Walbro 255l fuel pump Deatsch Werks 750cc injectors Autobahn 88 inverted FMIC with custom short route pipework to meet reversed inlet manifold for quicker spooling. FMIC pipes also heat wrapped Silicon hoses everywhere. K&N induction kit, in-wing mounted OBP oil catch can with K&N breather Tiao blow off valve Roger Clark GT spec equal length exhaust manifold Full Mongoose 3 inch straight through exhaust. Exhaust Manifold, up pipes and down pipe heat wrapped Eibach lowering springs -10 mm on standard STI dampers Standard Brembo 4pots with 326mm drilled and groove disks EBC Yellow Stuff pads all round Expensive uprated clutch Decent tyres on standard STI wheels Probably a load of other things as well. Just shelled out for a set of Defi gauges to keep an eye on things... All in all it has reliable power and drives nicer than the standard car, but it's cost a small fortune in parts - luckily for me, the previous owner did most of this... :) |
It seems future proof for more
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Originally Posted by b3nmw
(Post 11511505)
It seems future proof for more
I'd rather have something over-spec'd with a good safety margin than run something that might be marginal. At the end of the day, the engine is only as good as it's weakest link... |
I suppose if u get bored and want more u know it should handle it
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More bits on the way. Might start a small project thread:lol:
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Originally Posted by MrQaud
(Post 11511567)
That's exactly the reasoning behind it... If I need to go into the 500 bhp territory, I know I can.
I'd rather have something over-spec'd with a good safety margin than run something that might be marginal. At the end of the day, the engine is only as good as it's weakest link... |
Originally Posted by fat-thomas
(Post 11512317)
but the newage engine will take 450 bhp all day long, its 3k thats not needed if the guy only wants 400bhp, also in regard to skimping id say he has done just that with a budget turbo, its not all about numbers its the way it drives :thumb: therefore a laggy old turbo is no good a decent billet one is whats needed.
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Semi closed deck block / small studs would be the weakest link for 500 Bhp
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Originally Posted by Fat Boy
(Post 11512320)
Semi closed deck block / small studs would be the weakest link for 500 Bhp
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
(Post 11510919)
As much as it a nice spec its not needed for 400 bhp a new age engine will be fine to around 450 on standard internals
Quality brakes are worth at least 50bhp when you know how to use them, same goes for good handling. The example of a bloke I met in the petrol station with a 600+ bhp yank tank holds true here, he said my WRX PPP would still kill him in the twisties with a mere 265 ish bhp, regardless of all the banter on here I know it's no match for bigger bhp cars on the straights and would be on the ragged edge just to stay in sight in the twisties, but I'd out brake the standard brembo set up every time. ;) |
Originally Posted by stonejedi
(Post 11512328)
There's a few that's already around that bhp power with their original block.SJ.
CDB's were a bit of a "fashion" a few years ago when everyone was experimenting that has carried on in Subaru folk law and not really necessary for 500bhp, better off spending that £700 between the various engine components and sundries at that level. |
Originally Posted by stonejedi
(Post 11512328)
There's a few that's already around that bhp power with their original block.SJ.
450 lasted 10 years/ 18k miles for me with an obd before it went as above |
Originally Posted by ditchmyster
(Post 11512335)
Jura ran 500bhp with scdb, and shaun is running 490bhp on a standard jdm as well as banny doing 520 odd on a jdm bottom end.
CDB's were a bit of a "fashion" a few years ago when everyone was experimenting that has carried on in Subaru folk law and not really necessary for 500bhp, better off spending that £700 between the various engine components and sundries at that level. Jura did very little mileage before the car was broken, same for Banny. |
Got a cobra sports cat so it won't be a full decat. Looking at a sc 42 billet
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