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jaygsi 26 June 2014 10:24 AM

I was just asking not questioning your judgement, do you know if WRX are a straight swap? as i know STI ones need abit of modifying?

martinnitram 01 July 2014 08:55 PM

As your not after big horsepower gains have you not considered the prodrive pack ?
There's not much to it (not telling you how to suck eggs) but its an ecu de cat upgrade panel filter and an intercooler samco type pipe.

I know it 'only' makes 240 bhp, but the difference between 240 and 280 is hardly a big deal, but the spread of torque will surprise you, and your car will be ultra reliable.

Its not just about numbers its how it drives.
As a comparison my friend has had his remapped with a bigger turbo front mount intercooler and a load of other bolt on ****e and it made 310bhp, mine bullys it through corners and only falls slightly behind on long-ish straight bits.
His drives horrible with lag mine drives lovely and is keen to go.

I would say do this first, if its still not enough you can easily sell the prodrive bits on again and try something else

10p worth :thumb:

edit; his head gasket then went, may or may not be related to extra power.

jaygsi 01 July 2014 09:58 PM

Lol ok bud cheers, i have a prodrive ECU here, i would of tried it but getting stupid quotes to code to keys, £78 cheapest so far, where you get yours done?

I have sports cat and sports filter and going to upgrade intercooler.

If i have to pay £78 to recode ECU and then sell it, then recode my old ECU again to work with keys thats £156, then ESL £295 then remap £250, gets expensive

Andy Stevens 02 July 2014 08:51 AM

A properly mapped car will run rings around a generic map. If you are ultimately going the ESL route, the prodrive ECU will be dead money.

jaygsi 02 July 2014 12:46 PM

Thats what i was thinking, also if you can load OEM and prodrive map on before sending?

And you said about ESL bypassing imobilizer, which i'd prefer it not to, can this be arranged?

Andy Stevens 02 July 2014 01:48 PM

No problem re the maps.

We can keep the immob but would have to have your actual ECU and as it can't be done on an exchange basis it won't be turned around same day. TBH very few people go for this option, but it can be done.

Cheers

martinnitram 02 July 2014 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by jaygsi (Post 11460755)
Lol ok bud cheers, i have a prodrive ECU here, i would of tried it but getting stupid quotes to code to keys, £78 cheapest so far, where you get yours done?

I have sports cat and sports filter and going to upgrade intercooler.

If i have to pay £78 to recode ECU and then sell it, then recode my old ECU again to work with keys thats £156, then ESL £295 then remap £250, gets expensive


I see your point, mine just plugged in, so if i ever do anything to mine i can unplug it and flog on.
TBH i was going to do a lot to mine but ive decided its got plenty for what i do with it - hooning round the back lanes mostly. cheers

jaygsi 03 July 2014 11:44 AM

What version is yours then?

My prodrive ecu is 3 yellow connects 1997-1998

Might try plugging it in see if works


Originally Posted by martinnitram (Post 11461166)
I see your point, mine just plugged in, so if i ever do anything to mine i can unplug it and flog on.
TBH i was going to do a lot to mine but ive decided its got plenty for what i do with it - hooning round the back lanes mostly. cheers


martinnitram 03 July 2014 08:12 PM

Not sure what version mine is 5 or 6, but its a 1999 and mine also has 3 plugs but cant remember what colour the plugs were now.

But it went in and started straight up when i did it.

I assumed they all did this, prob best to double check first.

As for other mods on mine, i'm considering some of the Harvey ported headers and up pipe, as this (supposedly) gets the turbo spooled up even quicker, and as its a easy bolt on mod for a few hundred quid probably worth a shot.

But that's as far as i think id go with mine, on this engine anyway

jaygsi 03 July 2014 11:38 PM

Lots of people say the 1997-1998 have immobilizer built into them, 1999-200 is separate to ecu been told

J.e30 09 July 2014 12:10 AM

if you fancy selling your prodrive ecu, give me a pm. i might be interested if its the right price :thumb:

jaygsi 09 July 2014 11:36 AM

Hi bud yea I'm thinking bout it

Shane 09 July 2014 12:13 PM

My 99 UK turbo has just made 251.1bhp with a Prodrive ECU, decat down pipe, prodrive backbox, prodrive intercooler pipework and a green panel filter. I've left the centre CAT in for now

I was more than happy with that for the minimal outlay and I can get my money back on the PPP ECU if I ever decide to go down the ECUTEK or ECULABS route.

http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps71c2c405.jpg

http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps11a4da7a.jpg

Shane

jaygsi 10 July 2014 07:15 PM

Sweet dude, I might be able to make 260 with any luck be happy with that

Jayjay100 14 July 2014 12:32 AM

So with a older one say 1993/1994. What injectors is on a Subaru 2000 Jap import. And what top intercooler would be a good upgrade and fit with no problem.

MattyB1983 14 July 2014 12:36 AM


Originally Posted by Jayjay100 (Post 11468578)
So with a older one say 1993/1994. What injectors is on a Subaru 2000 Jap import. And what top intercooler would be a good upgrade and fit with no problem.


Early WRX had 380's.
Intercooler upgrade on the early cars is difficult. I'm fitting a later V4 STI cooler to mine but it takes a lot of work. Most go with front mount because it's easier or if you can find one then an ARC top mount is a decent upgrade.

Jayjay100 14 July 2014 12:48 AM

So look out for a ARC one and it will fit no problem . .
& the 380 jet how much BHP are they good for

Jayjay100 14 July 2014 12:52 AM

P.s can I ask u lot meth in the tank is that not just for the track. & wear do u get it from & how much will it cost . & is there much power gains with it .

Jayjay100 14 July 2014 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by jaygsi (Post 11466527)
Sweet dude, I might be able to make 260 with any luck be happy with that

Even with 260 u will want more in time . If you can go for 280 ish. Or the big 300. That will keep you happy for a long time . But then you always want more lol.

jaygsi 14 July 2014 09:18 AM

I know bud, my old WRX was around 280 bhp, that was insane bhp, never known anything like it, i could over take any car any where with ease :(

Thats the power i miss, i will try my Prodrive ECU see how it drives then might upgrade to ESL if not enough power :thumb:




Originally Posted by Jayjay100 (Post 11468585)
Even with 260 u will want more in time . If you can go for 280 ish. Or the big 300. That will keep you happy for a long time . But then you always want more lol.


MattyB1983 14 July 2014 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by Jayjay100 (Post 11468583)
So look out for a ARC one and it will fit no problem . .
& the 380 jet how much BHP are they good for

Yes, ARC cooler will fit perfectly and is good enough for around the 350 bhp mark. They aren't cheap (usually around £200) and don't come up often but I've seen quite a few sell on here.

380's are good for about 280bhp but will do a bit more if you up the pressure with a FPR. Best bet would be to upgrade the injectors if heading that way power wise imo.

As for the meth, it can be used daily but remember the car will need mapping for it which is expensive. Gain wise, usual gains are in the region of 10% with a 20% mix but obviously varies.

MattyB1983 14 July 2014 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Jayjay100 (Post 11468585)
Even with 260 u will want more in time . If you can go for 280 ish. Or the big 300. That will keep you happy for a long time . But then you always want more lol.

The 300bhp target was seen as big about 10 years ago chap, 400 is now the norm :lol1: with 500 not uncommon :D
Go drive a stripped out 400+ classic, now that's good fun.

mickywrx 14 July 2014 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by MattyB1983 (Post 11468645)
380's are good for about 280bhp but will do a bit more if you up the pressure with a FPR. Best bet would be to upgrade the injectors if heading that way power wise imo.

Mine which is still running did 330bhp at standard fuel pressure. That's not advisable though.

600bhp+ in a blobeye is a bit naughty, even from the passenger seat! :eek:

MattyB1983 14 July 2014 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by mickywrx (Post 11469149)
Mine which is still running did 330bhp at standard fuel pressure. That's not advisable though.

600bhp+ in a blobeye is a bit naughty, even from the passenger seat! :eek:

They must be running at 100% !!!!!

You sure they are 380's ?? Could they of been opened up before you got them ??

Jayjay100 14 July 2014 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by MattyB1983 (Post 11468650)
The 300bhp target was seen as big about 10 years ago chap, 400 is now the norm :lol1: with 500 not uncommon :D
Go drive a stripped out 400+ classic, now that's good fun.

I agree with you the figures get big & so on.
A Escort rs B reg was it or C reg . They was quick and I think 125/150bhp .
Look at the group b rally car back in ther day.

Jayjay100 14 July 2014 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by MattyB1983 (Post 11468645)
Yes, ARC cooler will fit perfectly and is good enough for around the 350 bhp mark. They aren't cheap (usually around £200) and don't come up often but I've seen quite a few sell on here.

380's are good for about 280bhp but will do a bit more if you up the pressure with a FPR. Best bet would be to upgrade the injectors if heading that way power wise imo.

As for the meth, it can be used daily but remember the car will need mapping for it which is expensive. Gain wise, usual gains are in the region of 10% with a 20% mix but obviously varies.

Thank u

jaygsi 15 July 2014 12:45 AM

Had old rs try race my wrx, I pulled away but he wasn't far behind, impressive, but he had to pull over think engine problem, alot of stress for 1.6



Originally Posted by Jayjay100 (Post 11469217)
I agree with you the figures get big & so on.
A Escort rs B reg was it or C reg . They was quick and I think 125/150bhp .
Look at the group b rally car back in ther day.


Jayjay100 15 July 2014 03:28 PM

Good cars . Renault 5gt / starlet turbo . & so on .

jaygsi 15 July 2014 04:26 PM

Alawys wanted a Renault 5gt, to unreliable

Jayjay100 15 July 2014 05:03 PM

Had two the clutch pedal was out if line so u went through lots . Lol . Very fast for a 1.3 . Power engineering got 220bhp out of it . Spent £1000 on it . But there u go shod of never sold my Cosworth , but life likes to test u sometimes & family comes 1st. God the cash I spent on my Cosworth . Now that was quick .


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