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Arguments aside, what's the best type for a BM? Thinking Vred Wintracs?
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Pilot sport cups!
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Who would pay for the police, ambulance and fire service to kit all their vehicles out in winter tyres :wonder:
Nik.
Originally Posted by fpan
(Post 10959307)
Trucks and buses don't use winter tyres, not sure why though, I guess because of the load they carry the winter tyres can't cope with it?
The UK temperature in winter is perfect for winter tyres: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate...United_Kingdom As previously mentioned winter tyres are not only necessary in snow, they provide improved grip when the average ambient has dropped below 10C or so. |
Originally Posted by fpan
(Post 10959307)
Trucks and buses don't use winter tyres, not sure why though, I guess because of the load they carry the winter tyres can't cope with it?
The UK temperature in winter is perfect for winter tyres: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate...United_Kingdom As previously mentioned winter tyres are not only necessary in snow, they provide improved grip when the average ambient has dropped below 10C or so. I would certainly object to mandatory enforcement if trucks are exempt. Back in 2004 (or whenever it was it snowed in the South East and the whole place ground to a halt) it took me 18 hours to go 100 miles home from Heathrow (in my FWD car on Summer tyres of course) because first the A1 and then the M11 were completely blocked by trucks on slight inclines. First one gets stuck, second one tries middle lane and third one outside lane. End result, everyone is screwed. |
Originally Posted by Matteeboy
(Post 10959327)
Arguments aside, what's the best type for a BM? Thinking Vred Wintracs?
You probably think that with your Summers though. Look at the Auto Express 2011/12 Winter tyre test online. The same ones always figure. |
Originally Posted by c_maguire
(Post 10959388)
If that's true then there's some irony in that in view of the fact that they appear to find it much harder to get around when conditions are bad than any other form of transport.
I would certainly object to mandatory enforcement if trucks are exempt. Back in 2004 (or whenever it was it snowed in the South East and the whole place ground to a halt) it took me 18 hours to go 100 miles home from Heathrow (in my FWD car on Summer tyres of course) because first the A1 and then the M11 were completely blocked by trucks on slight inclines. First one gets stuck, second one tries middle lane and third one outside lane. End result, everyone is screwed. The same would happen with cars albeit, you might have needed a steeper incline. |
Originally Posted by Matteeboy
(Post 10959327)
Arguments aside, what's the best type for a BM? Thinking Vred Wintracs?
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 10959476)
sorry, this is an arguments only thread
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
(Post 10959284)
Yes that's right, it snows heavily all winter in Canada, where i live you can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times it freezes never mind snows over one winter.
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Not often I laugh at your posts, but that's a good'un!
Speaking my mate tonight who happens to have his own tyre fitting business. He told me he got stuck going up a street in his sprinter today due to snow. I asked if he had winter tyres on and he replied that he did but they were only at 4mm. I guess some of this is the low weight they have over rear wheels. Still, made me think of this thread. |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 10959476)
sorry, this is an arguments only thread
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Originally Posted by davyboy
(Post 10959705)
Not often I laugh at your posts, but that's a good'un!
Speaking my mate tonight who happens to have his own tyre fitting business. He told me he got stuck going up a street in his sprinter today due to snow. I asked if he had winter tyres on and he replied that he did but they were only at 4mm. I guess some of this is the low weight they have over rear wheels. Still, made me think of this thread. |
Originally Posted by c_maguire
(Post 10959283)
Probably something to do with the fact that this thread is debating whether there is a need for Winter tyres during a UK Winter rather than a Canadian one.
If Winter is the only requirement then they'd be using them on the Costa Blanca, which they aren't. |
Originally Posted by c_maguire
(Post 10959189)
Quality Winter against quality Summer then yes we are.
Budget Winter against quality Summer then perhaps not. More positive would be to place a minimum performance rating on Summer tyres to stop sales of all the cheap rubbish that so many are buying (and that garages also put on because there is either more profit or less loss in it for them). All of your posts on here are based on stuff you've read not experienced by what I can gather. My advice would that unless you've actually experienced both then you accept the statements from people who have. However your posts would also lead me to believe you're the sort of person who's so far up their own arse and thinks they're a driving legend that the only way you'd believe it would be for me to take your car and try and stop on sheet ice with your summer Pirelli whatverthe****youvefitted tyres on it. You'd of course be looking ahead not that it would matter because if you're already on ice you still can't stop, and you'd slide straight into a wall damaging your car. With the winters on you'd stop. Regardless of your driving style if you're saying you can stop on sheet ice by driving harder and looking ahead more you're full of it. Like f1 fan I'm out, some people just can't accept that they don't know everything and you're clearly one of them. Ta ta. |
Originally Posted by c_maguire
(Post 10959189)
Quality Winter against quality Summer then yes we are.
Budget Winter against quality Summer then perhaps not. More positive would be to place a minimum performance rating on Summer tyres to stop sales of all the cheap rubbish that so many are buying (and that garages also put on because there is either more profit or less loss in it for them).
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 10959476)
sorry, this is an arguments only thread
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Originally Posted by fpan
(Post 10959307)
Trucks and buses don't use winter tyres
Originally Posted by fpan
(Post 10959307)
where i live you can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times it freezes never mind snows over one winter.
None last year if I remember correctly and twice this year |
If you have winter tyres on and brake successfully and the car behind doesn't and rear ends you, that makes a negative for having them fitted.
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Anyway, you mainland boys are in for another fall of snow this weekend - dig deep and get some winter boots on
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Originally Posted by Oldun
(Post 10960055)
If you have winter tyres on and brake successfully and the car behind doesn't and rear ends you, that makes a negative for having them fitted.
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:lol:
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Warmed up again here. Risk now low.
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Originally Posted by Oldun
(Post 10960055)
If you have winter tyres on and brake successfully and the car behind doesn't and rear ends you, that makes a negative for having them fitted.
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Originally Posted by yellowvanman
(Post 10960260)
Lol, think that might make for the most ridiculous post yet on this thread.
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Ignore the oldun he's trying to take the pi$$ it seems :D
If not I suggest him not to stop and run into others instead rather than others running into him. That way he won't wear his brakes either ;) |
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Did I say anywhere that I don't have winter tyres on?
I was merely pointing out one negative factor. |
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Originally Posted by Oldun
(Post 10960348)
Did I say anywhere that I don't have winter tyres on?
I was merely pointing out one negative factor. |
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Because this tragic accident illustrates to me why economic arguments about appropriate tyres for the prevailing conditions are just fatuous hairsplitting nonsense.
My thoughts go out to the family |
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