All utter rubbish

But I'll pick one

Bush, give the source to his being head of security

With all due respect! All utter rubbish,,,in your opinion!
Marvin Bush, son of US president George H.W. Bush, and brother to US president George W. Bush, served on the board of directors from 1993- 2000, leaving prior to the attacks on the WTC.

Wiki link
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Securacom

Right so just to be 100% clear

Your assertion that he was head of security of the WTC (presumably on 9 11) is rubbish

From your link

Kroll Inc. - Securacom sold security-related equipment to the New York Port Authority for the security of the World Trade Center. Securacom's contract for the sale of equipment was terminated in 1998.

He was on the board of directors and left in 2000 anyway , and the company had no contract with WTC at the time of the attacks

Yet you state he was head of security for the WTC, like I said, utter rubbish

He was a director right up until 2000, I didn't once state at the time of 911!
After 911 in 2002 the company closed it's doors.
He was head of security when there were major fire wall and sprinkler construction works in 2000.
The main security company for WTC and numerous airports.

If I remember rightly the company started in the wake of the 26/2/93 wtc bombing.

Source

You asked for a source on Marvin being head of security which I gave you.
Have a little scour yourself, you may even surprise yourself:lol1:Iv got to pop out for an hour, can't stand the mrs up:D

Your source does not say he was head of security. Do you have any idea what a typical board member does day to day?

Pete You summed up why people doubt the official theory pretty well.

But regarding sratastec and he Bush connection there is also wirt walker 3rd . Another relation to the Bush family

And its also worth mentioning stratesec parent company kuwam .Kuwaiti American corporation .

If anyone's interested Google it for yourself

Do you have any idea what kind of connections the Bush family have , like the fact he was a board member makes any differance , he could of been on the payroll as a cleaner for all the diferance his job title makes.presidents brother, hardly your typical board member

None of what you've listed is actual hard evidence, it's barely circumstancial and all speculative. For example, what does "no cctv footage" actually prove, how can nothing be used as evidence? :facepalm:

Source

Exactly this.

So first he's "in charge of security", then he's an ex-board member, now he's cleaning the flipping toilets. Make your mind up! As for him being related to George W Bush, so what? What single thing does that do to prove that for whatever bizarre sinister reason he'd conspire to destroy a multi-billion dollar building that a company he used to work for was supposed to be helping protect, and murder several thousand people in the process? Your whole chain of logic hinges on the premise that everyone who had anything to do with Bush had to be like him, a megalomaniac, sadistic psychopath, willing and capable of planning and carrying out astonishingly complex devious plots and ensuring they were kept secret. Have you actually watched any of the Youtube videos of his endless catalog of comedic bloopers in speeches and interviews? The guy was an incompetent joke!

You are right, it's not hard evidence, these are a fraction of unanswered questions, no matter how speculative seemingly swept under the carpet, questions that need answering!

The only relevant CCTV footage has been taken and hidden behind closed doors.

The US government probably are keeping SOME things quiet for what ever reason but that's more to do with hiding things they could of done better plus could expose security protocols etc etc etc.

Yep, quite right

They make extraordinary claims, but offer zero actual evidence to back them up, just a load of waffle and flim flam

Backed up by "belief" in a vast conspiracy, simple belief, which requires no evidence, just belief

But GWB wasn't even sworn in until 2001

Bin Laden was a undercover worker for the USA government.

Yeah, those pesky kids. :mad:

All of which have been debunked. The experts are rarely that, either.

We've covered this before, it's not suspicious

It wasn't a confession, it was a misinterpreted term, he covered it in later interviews.

Already covered
He didn't admit lots of things before 9/11 that Al Qaed were responsible for, but once the US were going for him, he changed his tune. It's not surprising, defiance makes him appear strong.

Does it matter he was fat? Did you exoect Hollywood production?
The 75ft one that ties in with how the plane hit, you mead? Or are you cherry picking the much smaller one in ring C, which again is consistent with a plane.
Not as much as you would like is not the same as none. There is some, but the plane did not hit the ground and then run along it.
There is plenty of CCTV footage, and even some realeased under the Freedom of Information Act. As you'd think. it was useless. Why would anyone (apart from the Pentagon's own cameras) be pointed at the Pentagon? The footage that exists wouldn't show either way, plane or missile would be travelling at about the same speed, the limitations of CCTV cameras would not offer the definition you think should be there.
No, he wasn't
We have had a few of those recently, I'd better get ready for a plane impact. God forbid that anyone has to undertake maintenance to large office buildings!
He probably has history with all sorts of things, it's circumstantial. I have links with social services, does that mean I masterminded a paedo ring exploiting care homes?
Not sure what you are getting at here, as the fireproofing was largely irrelevant anyway. The explosion stripped away most of the standard fireproof materials, the spray on stuff was questionable at best.
Yeah, odd that one, because usually all the people in the country are sat arond n their arses playing Candy Crush Saga..........
Air defence failures.
Why is this relevant? It had been re-inforced, saving lives.
You don't get coincidence do you? Have a look at http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK...Panic-of-1944/ , or read 'Beyond Coincidence'
So now the conspiracy has spread to thousand of people, Gee, that will be easy to keep secret......
See coincidence.
Unlikely doesn't mean impossible. Like the magic bullet for JF|K, it was only magic if you dind't consider all that happened, then it was just a bullet.
Do you have any eveidence of this? I mean real evidence? As fo the black boxes, they weren't destroyed, they were badly damaged.
Porbably because they were the type of stupid conspiritard questions that don't deserve an answer.
Why do you always expect everything to work perfectly? LIfe just isn't like that.
Because they dno't want to promote idiocy?
Try again, Rumsfeld announced it in February 2000, and again on several occasions, one of the being 9/10. See what happens when you cherry pick your data? Also, the money was not missing, they were having trouble accouting for it with the incompatible systems in use at the time.
What about it? Uncovered in 1997, designed for 1962.
You have just descirbed all the conspiracy theories!

How do you know it's relevant if you haven't even seen it? :brickwall What does that prove? :facepalm:

The existance of Project Northwoods is probably the only bit from Petes quote that's worth discussing. It show's that previous administrations have toyed with the idea of state sanctioned terrorism against the American people.

It also highlights that it is virtually impossible to keep this sort of stuff secret, which is the central tenet of the conspiracy theorists, that it's all a big cover up.

And if you point out that the US government has never managed to cover up anything successfully, they will just come back with "well, how would you know?", which is essentially the same as the old you can't prove a negative, which is what religious types hide behind.

See any similarities?

simple "belief" in a conspiracy is all they need

"belief" needs no facts, evidence or logic - belief is all they require

the only people believing anything are the ones that believe the official theory ,

And as for all the so called answers to the questions outlined by Pete well they are no way good enough and most of them just show the lack of understanding of the point raised , one that stuck is the fireproofing , they misunderstood the point which is they could have opened up the fireproofing around the steel in the floors that were stated , I could go on replying to every reply given but it would take to much effort trying to get those people to open there eyes and see everything isn't what you believe

People who look into conspiracy theories do so with an open mind and don't usually believe anything just wonder if we have been told the truth

And hodgy if you are at all interested in the points raised about stratesec look into it for yourself

Lol I have, that's why I can't state with 100% certainty that Marvin Bush was not head of security at the WTC

Despite what you claim, despite the lies and bullsh1t you spout
Despite asking for evidence and sources - that never comes

Because it is utter boll0x

You seem to be confused
You asked me for a source to prove wirt walker 3rd was a director at sratesec and a relation of the Bush family ,
my responce was look into it yourself .
You say you have but don't mention wirt at all but claim I have spouted lies , which lies are those ?

Lol, sorry but you made the assertion about a guy callers Wirt walker, I simply asked you for a source

You can't provide one - simply give me Source, no confusion, just give me the source

I hope I'm not putting words in others mouths but no one believes just the official story. We all except that there will be things we don't know and truths that have been stretched etc.
There's just too much that has gone on for there not to be some inconsistencies and maybe a little head scratching.

Originally Posted by*stipete75*

You are right, it's not hard evidence, these are a fraction of unanswered questions, no matter how speculative seemingly swept under the carpet, questions that need answering!

The only relevant CCTV footage has been taken and hidden behind closed doors.



This is funny, kinda makes me wanna bang my head on a brickwall as well.:brickwall