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Old 26 April 2012, 08:58 AM
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Default Clio - which one?

197 Cup, 200 Cup, 1.8 and tune it, older 182...?

Which one would you choose for a dip into hot hatch Clio fun?
Old 26 April 2012, 09:30 AM
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bought the mrs a clio 197 F1 edition not long ago it has the cup pack and recaro's ect as standard handles awsome

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172 cup....That is all.
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depends what you want it for and your budget; daily driver with unlimited budget is a no brainer; 200 full fat with the Cup chassis. Daily driver on limited budget 182 Full Fat with both Cup packs. Track tool; stripped 172 Cup
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Originally Posted by wngdav
bought the mrs a clio 197 F1 edition not long ago it has the cup pack and recaro's ect as standard handles awsome

Lucky mrs wngdav

Can I ask about how much something like that is? Nice looker btw (car of course)
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Originally Posted by trails
depends what you want it for and your budget; daily driver with unlimited budget is a no brainer; 200 full fat with the Cup chassis. Daily driver on limited budget 182 Full Fat with both Cup packs. Track tool; stripped 172 Cup
It's a second (well, third) car which will wbe used for very short commute, and then hooning, maybe one TD to see

What are 'both' cup packs on the 182, and what does full fat mean?

Cheers
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Originally Posted by bonesetter
It's a second (well, third) car which will wbe used for very short commute, and then hooning, maybe one TD to see

What are 'both' cup packs on the 182, and what does full fat mean?

Cheers
there are two Cup packs for the 182, the important one is the Cup chassis where the hubs are upgraded to give a wider footprint, stiffer/lower springs and anthracite wheels. Other Cup pack is cosmetic; front splitter and slightly larger rear wing. Full Fat refers to the equipment level; Xeons, auto wipers, auto lights, cruise control, half leather\alcantara interior etc whereas on a Cup variant you get far fewer toys and normal cloth trim.
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Originally Posted by trails
there are two Cup packs for the 182, the important one is the Cup chassis where the hubs are upgraded to give a wider footprint, stiffer/lower springs and anthracite wheels. Other Cup pack is cosmetic; front splitter and slightly larger rear wing. Full Fat refers to the equipment level; Xeons, auto wipers, auto lights, cruise control, half leather\alcantara interior etc whereas on a Cup variant you get far fewer toys and normal cloth trim.
Gotcha

Liking the sound of the 182 more and more - thrashable & chuckable
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200 cup
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Originally Posted by stilover
200 cup
Isn't that like a scooby hatch though - refined, capable, but lardy and a bit dull?
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Originally Posted by bonesetter
Gotcha

Liking the sound of the 182 more and more - thrashable & chuckable
great fun cars, only had mine a couple of months and I love it; it’s the antithesis of a big power scoob...drop Frayz a PM we were talking about this just last night
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I have a 172 but a different kettle of fish as its a rally car , it goes very well , handles and brakes amazing , just need more grunt , got an engine build on the go now to get it to around 230-240hp now , and looking to get it to about 260ish later in the year , I'm leading the Welsh tarmac championship in class with it now



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Originally Posted by bonesetter
Lucky mrs wngdav

Can I ask about how much something like that is? Nice looker btw (car of course)

57 plate with 40,000 miles we paid just over 6k
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182 full fat with both cup packs.
Last of the little light hot hatches. Clips since have just got bigger and heavier.

I've a fully modified 573bhp impreza and a cup packed 182 with track tyres and pads. The Clio puts a smile on my face every bit as big as the impreza at a fraction of the cost and I can keep up with and many a time outrun lots of more expensive and "on paper" faster cars. It's a true giant slayer in every sense and I love every second of driving it.

Trails and I had this conversation last night. Big power impreza is wide eyed excitement. The Clio is out and out grin factor.

Most fun ive ever had in a car.
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OK, I'm sold

Thanks for the replies, which all gush Was expecting to see some usually French reliability knocks against it

So, if I budget for 6K, that should see me there...?
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You want the one with the least electrics on it otherwise they are a good little car, just dont take it to a Renault Dealer, they really suck (having had them not tighten up the sump plug on my 1 year old R19 16v after an oil service )

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182 = no spare wheel!
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My little baby 182 Trophy




And having a play

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182 Trophy
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My 182 FF. Having it round Snetterton a couple of months ago.






One week after these were taken, the wife wrote it off.
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Originally Posted by cookstar
My 182 FF. Having it round Snetterton a couple of months ago.


One week after these were taken, the wife wrote it off.
That looks very nice - super low for track use

Sorry to hear about its demise
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Anyone compare the 182 to an ITR DC5?

I owned a DC5 for a short time and didn't like it - the VTEC got tiresome and it it really NEEDED to be driven hard to get anything out of it.

The handling was sublime though, but smoothly so - track smooth, not chuckable. The Clio seems a bit more flightly, suiting the monkey style better...?

Different animal completely ?
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Originally Posted by bonesetter
Anyone compare the 182 to an ITR DC5?

I owned a DC5 for a short time and didn't like it - the VTEC got tiresome and it it really NEEDED to be driven hard to get anything out of it.

The handling was sublime though, but smoothly so - track smooth, not chuckable. The Clio seems a bit more flightly, suiting the monkey style better...?

Different animal completely ?

I can't compare a DC5 but can a DC2 (my mates), and there was nothing in it at the last track day (my last post). Out of the box the DC2/5 will be better than a 182 (non trophy) but a few quid can get these cars sorted very quickly.

I now own a facelift EP3 type R, and although not as chuckable (yet) than the 182 I much prefer the whole package, and have big plans for this.

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Originally Posted by cookstar
I can't compare a DC5 but can a DC2 (my mates), and there was nothing in it at the last track day (my last post). Out of the box the DC2/5 will be better than a 182 (non trophy) but a few quid can get these cars sorted very quickly.

I now own a facelift EP3 type R, and although not as chuckable (yet) than the 182 I much prefer the whole package, and have big plans for this.

Alright matie. ive gone french as well..

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Originally Posted by simon57
Alright matie. ive gone french as well..

Very nice mate, I fancied one of those but they were a little out of budget. How do you find it?
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I had a 172 for just over a year (have also had a EP3 Type R a few years ago.)
I found the clio great fun and really chuckable with excellent brakes. But had to be caned to make any progress and had an damn awful driving position, i just couldn't get comfy in it!
Lots of electrical gremlins too, throttle jerkiness, emissions lights etc. Civic was a far better car!
I'd never have another renault!
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i ve had a 172 cup and 182 trophy both i bought brand new. for fast road these cars come no where near a classic STI subaru.
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Originally Posted by craigo
i ve had a 172 cup and 182 trophy both i bought brand new. for fast road these cars come no where near a classic STI subaru.
So, if you're used to 330bhp Type R, the Clio will seem quite meek?

Originally Posted by cookstar
I can't compare a DC5 but can a DC2 (my mates), and there was nothing in it at the last track day (my last post). Out of the box the DC2/5 will be better than a 182 (non trophy) but a few quid can get these cars sorted very quickly.

I now own a facelift EP3 type R, and although not as chuckable (yet) than the 182 I much prefer the whole package, and have big plans for this.

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Originally Posted by icbm
I had a 172 for just over a year (have also had a EP3 Type R a few years ago.)
I found the clio great fun and really chuckable with excellent brakes. But had to be caned to make any progress and had an damn awful driving position, i just couldn't get comfy in it!
Lots of electrical gremlins too, throttle jerkiness, emissions lights etc. Civic was a far better car!
I'd never have another renault!
Thanks for your input, and appreciate the honesty. Which was the most fun?
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ive not read back so sorry if repeating, but the only two clios id entertain now would be a williams 1 or 3, or a v6.


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