Whats the fastest 'off the peg' Diesel car available?
25 June 2005, 08:38 PM
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Whats the fastest 'off the peg' Diesel car available?
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Just feeling the thirst of the scoob a bit this month....
Whats the fastest, bes thandling diesel available?
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26 June 2005, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ^OPM^
i used to have a m reg 1.8 lx td mondeo-and that was fast 
but then again i drove it damn hard! 
but then again i drove it damn hard!
26 June 2005, 10:25 AM
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i got the missus a mk4 golf gt tdi 150 and its very quick and torquey and i know a guy whos tuned his to 190 bhp and says its a belter.
i think the new seat deisel has a 7.9 0-60 time
i think the new seat deisel has a 7.9 0-60 time
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26 June 2005, 10:38 AM
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According to Diesel Car Magazine the fastest diesel on sale is the BMW 535D closely followed by the Audi A8 4.0V8 TDi.
The Taureg 5.0 V10 TDi is the most powerfull but weighs nearly 3 tons and has the aerodynamics of a house.
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The Taureg 5.0 V10 TDi is the most powerfull but weighs nearly 3 tons and has the aerodynamics of a house.
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26 June 2005, 11:06 AM
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Mercedes is presenting at geneva 2 new mercedes. Merc says they are only prototypes but it surely doesn't look like it. For others, I'm sure you will be able to find info on the web.
Mercedes SLK 320 CDI:
It's a new V6 with (hold to your chair) 3 turbos. They call it the TRITURBO (It's an engine like the 535d for those of you who know how it's like) Result? 286bhp and 680Nm. 680 !!!!
Perf: 0-100 km/h in 5.3 sec
Mercedes SL 400 CDI: this just keeps on getting better & better...
It's a V8 with 315BHP and 730Nm. It's a biturbo. The numbers are mind blowing. Can you imagine 730Nm ????
Perf: 0-100 in 5.8 sec.
As featured in July's Car Magazine.
Mercedes SLK 320 CDI:
It's a new V6 with (hold to your chair) 3 turbos. They call it the TRITURBO (It's an engine like the 535d for those of you who know how it's like) Result? 286bhp and 680Nm. 680 !!!!
Perf: 0-100 km/h in 5.3 sec
Mercedes SL 400 CDI: this just keeps on getting better & better...
It's a V8 with 315BHP and 730Nm. It's a biturbo. The numbers are mind blowing. Can you imagine 730Nm ????
Perf: 0-100 in 5.8 sec.
As featured in July's Car Magazine.
26 June 2005, 02:11 PM
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There is a guy in the latest issue of bmw performance magazie with a 330d that has 305bhp and 594 lb/ft of torque. But it only manages the 1/4 mile in 14.5 not really that impressive considering the numbers, top speed is not bad at 160mph.
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26 June 2005, 03:52 PM
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Out the box at the moment I'd say you'll struggle to do better than a 535d which has a twin turbo 3.0 engine producing around 275bhp and more torque than you can shake a stick at. Rest to 100mph is 14.5s so it would match or destroy a classic shape standard scooby in absolutely any test of acceleration other than 0-30mph. Consider what it might do with a remap 
Consider also if BMW put that engine in the lighter 3-series and you bought such a vehicle and remapped it. We are then talking about a diesel that is the match of a P1 and effortlessly so. Bold new world
Consider also if BMW put that engine in the lighter 3-series and you bought such a vehicle and remapped it. We are then talking about a diesel that is the match of a P1 and effortlessly so. Bold new world
26 June 2005, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
Bold new world
Subaru have a big problem using flat engines but they already have the latest technology avialable to them.
I can only see diesel becoming more wide spread, it has greater thermal efficiency than petrol so you should always get more power for the fuel used. The efficiency gap is even wider on cold engines or light throttle loads.
The only drawback is the purchase price which also should come down as the technology moves forward and the number of units made increases.
As you say.
Bold new world.
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26 June 2005, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
There is a guy in the latest issue of bmw performance magazie with a 330d that has 305bhp and 594 lb/ft of torque. But it only manages the 1/4 mile in 14.5 not really that impressive considering the numbers, top speed is not bad at 160mph.
27 June 2005, 08:41 AM
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The big penalty with these powerful diesel cars however is the nose-heavy handling that no amount of uprated dampers and springs can iron out. Straight line they're fine but will get unruly through corners and lack the agilty of their lighter-engined petrol brethren.
27 June 2005, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by zoog
The big penalty with these powerful diesel cars however is the nose-heavy handling that no amount of uprated dampers and springs can iron out. Straight line they're fine but will get unruly through corners and lack the agilty of their lighter-engined petrol brethren.
27 June 2005, 06:54 PM
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No, the Diesel is just over 100kg heavier than the petrol
IIRC BMW still use cast iron blocks on their 6 pot diesels which would account for the extra weight.
But as I said before (with the 3 series verses 5 series) 100kg is nothing -especially on a car with near 50-50 weight distribution.
IIRC BMW still use cast iron blocks on their 6 pot diesels which would account for the extra weight.
But as I said before (with the 3 series verses 5 series) 100kg is nothing -especially on a car with near 50-50 weight distribution.
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28 June 2005, 11:17 AM
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You beat me to it, was about to mention the near perfect 50/50 weight distribution on a 3 series. A 335D would be a storming car. The future's near, the future's smokey 
28 June 2005, 03:13 PM
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BMW 535 DMS
272BHP
175mph
0-60 5.9 seconds (auto in the wet)
According to the test EVO mag did on this car.
Also Vauxhall are looking to produce a High performance Vectra VXR diesel.
If I remember it was a 1.9 16v twin turbo producing 220bhp
0-60 6.3secs
155mph
272BHP
175mph
0-60 5.9 seconds (auto in the wet)
According to the test EVO mag did on this car.
Also Vauxhall are looking to produce a High performance Vectra VXR diesel.
If I remember it was a 1.9 16v twin turbo producing 220bhp
0-60 6.3secs
155mph
28 June 2005, 03:38 PM
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A mate has the Golf 150bhp TDI - nice motor but space wise it has nothing on the classic scoob - boot size is too impractical. My scoob can get 3 sets of golf clubs in the boot whereas the golf (fitting name) has to have the rear seat put down to get 1 set in.
We looked at getting one for the misses - but after seeing a few that had to have the parcel shelf taken out to fit a pushchair in we decided they were too impractical. So we have to make do with an Impreza Turbo instead
Did think about an Audi A4 - (same engiine as golf?) but it's too big a car for a 1.9 Turbo Diesel.
We looked at getting one for the misses - but after seeing a few that had to have the parcel shelf taken out to fit a pushchair in we decided they were too impractical. So we have to make do with an Impreza Turbo instead
Did think about an Audi A4 - (same engiine as golf?) but it's too big a car for a 1.9 Turbo Diesel.
29 June 2005, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by messiah
A mate has the Golf 150bhp TDI - nice motor but space wise it has nothing on the classic scoob - boot size is too impractical. My scoob can get 3 sets of golf clubs in the boot whereas the golf (fitting name) has to have the rear seat put down to get 1 set in.
We looked at getting one for the misses - but after seeing a few that had to have the parcel shelf taken out to fit a pushchair in we decided they were too impractical. So we have to make do with an Impreza Turbo instead
We looked at getting one for the misses - but after seeing a few that had to have the parcel shelf taken out to fit a pushchair in we decided they were too impractical. So we have to make do with an Impreza Turbo instead
Cheers
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29 June 2005, 08:14 AM
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My mates brother does the Gumball every year in a modified BMW 330d, that thing can chomp some serious miles very quickly!
Go to: http://www.antandpete.co.uk/ and click on the d3 Diesel Power logo in the top right hand corner of the page to view their 0-125mph video............
0-60 in 5.9
0-100 in 14.1
0-124 in 19.8
Stu
Go to: http://www.antandpete.co.uk/ and click on the d3 Diesel Power logo in the top right hand corner of the page to view their 0-125mph video............
0-60 in 5.9
0-100 in 14.1
0-124 in 19.8
Stu
