which 4x4?
#1
which 4x4?
so i may be in for a promotion @ work and hopefully a substantial pay-rise.
ive been speaking with mrs shrek and as we are not having kids we would like to do alot of travelling around europe etc. we have another couple who are not having kids and share our interests so will need room for them aswell.
i will (hopefully) be treating myself to a 4x4 for this purpose, i originally thought bmw x5 as i had an e53 shape previous and i loved it but a quick scan around has me tempted with a few other cars.
discovery sport 2015-2017 shape
range rover vogue diesel tdv6 or tdv8 around 2013 plate
bmw x5 50d/30d etc
range rover evoque (yeah yeah baby rangerover etc lol) my mate has one and its lovely to drive and lovely inside.
jeep grand cherokee tdv6
i will only be buying through the approved used scheme offered by each brand. anywhere between £18k-£35k.
would i be wrong looking at diesels with all thats going on at the minute? all of the petrol versions have whopping engines which would rape the fuel.
thanks
ive been speaking with mrs shrek and as we are not having kids we would like to do alot of travelling around europe etc. we have another couple who are not having kids and share our interests so will need room for them aswell.
i will (hopefully) be treating myself to a 4x4 for this purpose, i originally thought bmw x5 as i had an e53 shape previous and i loved it but a quick scan around has me tempted with a few other cars.
discovery sport 2015-2017 shape
range rover vogue diesel tdv6 or tdv8 around 2013 plate
bmw x5 50d/30d etc
range rover evoque (yeah yeah baby rangerover etc lol) my mate has one and its lovely to drive and lovely inside.
jeep grand cherokee tdv6
i will only be buying through the approved used scheme offered by each brand. anywhere between £18k-£35k.
would i be wrong looking at diesels with all thats going on at the minute? all of the petrol versions have whopping engines which would rape the fuel.
thanks
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You could get a nice Range Rover Sport for your sort of money and that's what I would go for. Even the RRS2's are beginning to drop into that price bracket.
Discovery Sport and Evoque are on the same chassis, so basically the same car and not as good a Land/Range Rover experience as either the RR Sport or the big RR. Also fitting 4x adults plus luggage would be a bit of a challenge in both.
Go for a Euro6 diesel.
Discovery Sport and Evoque are on the same chassis, so basically the same car and not as good a Land/Range Rover experience as either the RR Sport or the big RR. Also fitting 4x adults plus luggage would be a bit of a challenge in both.
Go for a Euro6 diesel.
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I'd love a proper RR. Not one of the other spin offs though. Evoque looks tiny!
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#8
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If it was my choice i’d go for the Range Rover for travelling around Europe. Top Gear have always said they are the 4x4 to have for off road and long distance touring. You want luxury when doing that many miles and nothing will beat the RR for that.
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You could get a nice Range Rover Sport for your sort of money and that's what I would go for. Even the RRS2's are beginning to drop into that price bracket.
Discovery Sport and Evoque are on the same chassis, so basically the same car and not as good a Land/Range Rover experience as either the RR Sport or the big RR. Also fitting 4x adults plus luggage would be a bit of a challenge in both.
Go for a Euro6 diesel.
Discovery Sport and Evoque are on the same chassis, so basically the same car and not as good a Land/Range Rover experience as either the RR Sport or the big RR. Also fitting 4x adults plus luggage would be a bit of a challenge in both.
Go for a Euro6 diesel.
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I’m up for a Tiguan if the scoob ever goes a lighter more reliable option than the Range Rover which I’d also love to own personally
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What reliability issues? Like any car there are quirks and foibles and like any car there are good 'uns and ban 'uns.
I've had one for 6 years and done over 60k miles. It has never failed to get me anywhere. I have had some maintenance to do on worn components but that's what you expect on a car with (now) 155k miles. I regularly take it off-road, I do long drives towing plant (which it does superbly) and I treat it like a scooby on the twisties. It is a bit harsher on suspension components but its 2.5t so not surprising.
My partner's RRS just doesn't do enough miles to be unreliable
If you're thinking of any in the LR range, then the RRS is just as reliable as the rest of them.
I've had one for 6 years and done over 60k miles. It has never failed to get me anywhere. I have had some maintenance to do on worn components but that's what you expect on a car with (now) 155k miles. I regularly take it off-road, I do long drives towing plant (which it does superbly) and I treat it like a scooby on the twisties. It is a bit harsher on suspension components but its 2.5t so not surprising.
My partner's RRS just doesn't do enough miles to be unreliable
If you're thinking of any in the LR range, then the RRS is just as reliable as the rest of them.
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What reliability issues? Like any car there are quirks and foibles and like any car there are good 'uns and ban 'uns.
I've had one for 6 years and done over 60k miles. It has never failed to get me anywhere. I have had some maintenance to do on worn components but that's what you expect on a car with (now) 155k miles. I regularly take it off-road, I do long drives towing plant (which it does superbly) and I treat it like a scooby on the twisties. It is a bit harsher on suspension components but its 2.5t so not surprising.
My partner's RRS just doesn't do enough miles to be unreliable
If you're thinking of any in the LR range, then the RRS is just as reliable as the rest of them.
I've had one for 6 years and done over 60k miles. It has never failed to get me anywhere. I have had some maintenance to do on worn components but that's what you expect on a car with (now) 155k miles. I regularly take it off-road, I do long drives towing plant (which it does superbly) and I treat it like a scooby on the twisties. It is a bit harsher on suspension components but its 2.5t so not surprising.
My partner's RRS just doesn't do enough miles to be unreliable
If you're thinking of any in the LR range, then the RRS is just as reliable as the rest of them.
i could live with the fuel bill............i would just charge my friends more petrol money when we go away
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More Smiles Per Gallon with a petrol, partner's Supercharged is seriously rapid and sounds beautiful.
But there are more diesels about, so possibly why there are more tales of woe. TDV8 was sometimes meant to have problems but I think the SDV6 is OK. Have a look on rrsport.co.uk and there's a recent thread about reliability in General.
But there are more diesels about, so possibly why there are more tales of woe. TDV8 was sometimes meant to have problems but I think the SDV6 is OK. Have a look on rrsport.co.uk and there's a recent thread about reliability in General.
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If you're thinking JLR I'd also have a look at the discovery sport forum, yes it's a different league to the RR's but it shows how poorly some of the models are designed and built - looks like they're still gluing the B post in some of the new cars. I liked the look and dimensions (big boot) but after a work colleague got a new one and after a solicitor eventually threatened JLR with legal action they took it back and refunded his money - and JLR then sent it straight to auction for some other poor mug.
At the time I browsed the forum and was amazed at the common problems with a brand new model.
On the RR's defense, my other half has been driving a brand new F Pace, RR sport autobiography and today was a RR Velar - RR sport is a clear winner so far (although the F Type R convertible last week might have done better if there was somewhere for the dog..)
At the time I browsed the forum and was amazed at the common problems with a brand new model.
On the RR's defense, my other half has been driving a brand new F Pace, RR sport autobiography and today was a RR Velar - RR sport is a clear winner so far (although the F Type R convertible last week might have done better if there was somewhere for the dog..)
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Seriously tho ,if I Was to tour Europe or the American states by car , no question if I was handed my pick then it would be the R34 Stagea
**** your RS6 Avants & the likes , for me this is old skool car **** with power , pace & practicality thrown in . Could just see you big fella getting your weights out the back of this bad boy ha ha
**** your RS6 Avants & the likes , for me this is old skool car **** with power , pace & practicality thrown in . Could just see you big fella getting your weights out the back of this bad boy ha ha
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Seriously tho ,if I Was to tour Europe or the American states by car , no question if I was handed my pick then it would be the R34 Stagea
**** your RS6 Avants & the likes , for me this is old skool car **** with power , pace & practicality thrown in . Could just see you big fella getting your weights out the back of this bad boy ha ha
**** your RS6 Avants & the likes , for me this is old skool car **** with power , pace & practicality thrown in . Could just see you big fella getting your weights out the back of this bad boy ha ha