VW Golf GTD DSG
19 October 2017, 12:16 AM
#1
VW Golf GTD DSG
As my 600hp Hawkeye has just grenaded itself I'm taking a step away from it and leaving it to rot in the garage for six months.
I've always had a run around but it really is just that a cheap POS to potter about in.
I'm now thinking of treating myself to my first brand new car. With VW's scrappage scheme being as good as it is I can get 4k for my 51 plate golf TDI 130 against a new car.
Anyway after some careful consideration I've narrowed it down to a Golf GTD. I test drove one with the DSG box today and I was quite taken with it. Another one Im considering is an Audi A3 TDI S Line black edition again with a DSG or as audi call them the S Tronic.
So does anyone have experience of either and what are your thoughts on the DSG boxes? Interested to know how you find them for daily use.
Although the wife has had a couple of Autos I've never had one of my own and I'm trying to convince myself to make the switch. I don't want to buy one and find out I don't like the bugger.
Cheers in advance
Daz
I've always had a run around but it really is just that a cheap POS to potter about in.
I'm now thinking of treating myself to my first brand new car. With VW's scrappage scheme being as good as it is I can get 4k for my 51 plate golf TDI 130 against a new car.
Anyway after some careful consideration I've narrowed it down to a Golf GTD. I test drove one with the DSG box today and I was quite taken with it. Another one Im considering is an Audi A3 TDI S Line black edition again with a DSG or as audi call them the S Tronic.
So does anyone have experience of either and what are your thoughts on the DSG boxes? Interested to know how you find them for daily use.
Although the wife has had a couple of Autos I've never had one of my own and I'm trying to convince myself to make the switch. I don't want to buy one and find out I don't like the bugger.
Cheers in advance
Daz
Last edited by dazdavies; 19 October 2017 at 12:18 AM.
19 October 2017, 11:37 AM
#2
Check which version DSG it is.
There are a number of versions but can be grouped into two types; one with wet plate clutches, the other group with dry plate clutches.
The latter tends to be fitted on lower output engines, the GTD "may" be fitted with the wet plate version..if so, this is good.
But it's worth investigating to make sure because I could be wrong. Have a google for "DSG clutch judder" and you'll see where I'm coming from. This will bring up results relating to the dry plate Clutch DSG boxes, and it's ongoing.
There are a number of versions but can be grouped into two types; one with wet plate clutches, the other group with dry plate clutches.
The latter tends to be fitted on lower output engines, the GTD "may" be fitted with the wet plate version..if so, this is good.
But it's worth investigating to make sure because I could be wrong. Have a google for "DSG clutch judder" and you'll see where I'm coming from. This will bring up results relating to the dry plate Clutch DSG boxes, and it's ongoing.
19 October 2017, 11:51 AM
#3
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DQ 200 - Dry clutch
**** box used in tiguan etc.
Most powerful setup was tht in BOC,Cupra ,PoloGti,Fabia VRS
DQ250 - Wet S3/Leon Cupra/Golf R
Good Box
DQ500 - RS3 Box Strongest also wet clutch
**** box used in tiguan etc.
Most powerful setup was tht in BOC,Cupra ,PoloGti,Fabia VRS
DQ250 - Wet S3/Leon Cupra/Golf R
Good Box
DQ500 - RS3 Box Strongest also wet clutch
19 October 2017, 07:01 PM
#4
I have a stronic twin clutch in my Audi and honestly it's my first auto box and was like you, I've never liked auto boxes, but I'm taken by it, these modern autos are a leap forward in technology and for a daily I honestly would miss it, I'd never buy a manual daily ever again I've got used to it that much. I'm pushing 275hp out of mine and goes well with the box, but you get used to how far to put your foot in how many gears you want it to drop when over taking etc, full foot down drops 2-3 gears, half a foot drops about 1-2 etc.
It's not like a manual where you can get it to react quickly like out of junctions etc as there's a slight delay, so it's best to judge and get used to when you see a gap and your ready to pull out and put foot down like a second before you want car to go, it's all about getting used to it.
I'd never go back to a manual for a daily car, it's so relaxing to drive, unless I buy a Porsche for daily lol.
The BMW autos are great too.
It's not like a manual where you can get it to react quickly like out of junctions etc as there's a slight delay, so it's best to judge and get used to when you see a gap and your ready to pull out and put foot down like a second before you want car to go, it's all about getting used to it.
I'd never go back to a manual for a daily car, it's so relaxing to drive, unless I buy a Porsche for daily lol.
The BMW autos are great too.
20 October 2017, 09:12 AM
#5
I have a stronic twin clutch in my Audi and honestly it's my first auto box and was like you, I've never liked auto boxes, but I'm taken by it, these modern autos are a leap forward in technology and for a daily I honestly would miss it, I'd never buy a manual daily ever again I've got used to it that much. I'm pushing 275hp out of mine and goes well with the box, but you get used to how far to put your foot in how many gears you want it to drop when over taking etc, full foot down drops 2-3 gears, half a foot drops about 1-2 etc.
It's not like a manual where you can get it to react quickly like out of junctions etc as there's a slight delay, so it's best to judge and get used to when you see a gap and your ready to pull out and put foot down like a second before you want car to go, it's all about getting used to it.
I'd never go back to a manual for a daily car, it's so relaxing to drive, unless I buy a Porsche for daily lol.
The BMW autos are great too.
It's not like a manual where you can get it to react quickly like out of junctions etc as there's a slight delay, so it's best to judge and get used to when you see a gap and your ready to pull out and put foot down like a second before you want car to go, it's all about getting used to it.
I'd never go back to a manual for a daily car, it's so relaxing to drive, unless I buy a Porsche for daily lol.
The BMW autos are great too.
20 October 2017, 07:07 PM
#6
If there's an offer on for a a4 get that instead, the Quattro is different apposed to the haldex, a4 has the proper 60/40 Torsen and different engine layout as apposed to longitude which has a better hp output stock in that engine, mine is 211hp stock 2.0tfsi sline Quattro and I'm sure it might be more now with the new Tweeks, the a3 is a transverse engine.
For a few more bucks may as well get a nice place to be in and practical for almost anything.
These 2 play a major difference in how it drives and handles.
For a few more bucks may as well get a nice place to be in and practical for almost anything.
These 2 play a major difference in how it drives and handles.
Last edited by bustaMOVEs; 20 October 2017 at 07:09 PM.
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I used to have a MK5 Golf GT-Sport 170 TDI, and it was a very good car. Quick, while still remaining sporty for a Diesel.
I test drove a MK7 Golf GTI and a GTD back to back for a whole day. The GTD felt very soft in comparison to the GTI. The GTI had the better ride, and felt sporty from the off. The GTD would still make a great everyday car, and long commutes would be very comfortable indeed.
Unless you're doing huge miles a year, give the GTI a test drive, as it's by far the better car.
I test drove a MK7 Golf GTI and a GTD back to back for a whole day. The GTD felt very soft in comparison to the GTI. The GTI had the better ride, and felt sporty from the off. The GTD would still make a great everyday car, and long commutes would be very comfortable indeed.
Unless you're doing huge miles a year, give the GTI a test drive, as it's by far the better car.
