alcazar

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Astra 1.9 CDTi SRi 150, sluggish, smokey and a poor starter.

Vauxhall daignosed it (£79.94) as needing ANOTHER new EGR valve, (only 18 months since the last genuine one fitted), glow plugs and anew inlet manifold inluding swirl flaps.

Total cost, £1411 plus VAT.

And the car is worth around £2100!

So not viable, yet do I scrap a £2000 car?

I've looked at the swirl flap repair kits, but been told that the manifold is "probably so coked up that the repair will fail, a new manifold is needed". Now a complete manifold is only £170 including all gaskets and an egr valve is £140, ditto, glow plugs are about £10 each, four needed. I can even replace the silly nylon swirl levers with brass cups for another £7.

So I'm looking at £1100's worth of labour??? Even at Vauxhall prices, that's FOURTEEN hours????????

Anyone advise...and please, I've heard all the platitudes re: diesels, older cars etc. And no, I wouldn't have another diesel.

I am NOT in a position to buy new. If I was, I would have done so.
So advice on the present problem only, please.

dpb

Ahhhh but , all that talk and extra mileage to the gallon .......

dpb

I thought an egr valve just required removing and cleaning periodic




whole new inlet manifold , wtf

peter zippy reid

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My audi had manifold replaced before i bought it for sticky swirl flaps

dpb

Maybe theyre fattening themselves up for sale to Peugeot , that's brexit for yer

Wull

Robbing barstewards

madscoob

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burn it just make sure the fire starts in the dashboard

dpb

That's got to 2OO quid an hour , nice




Mybe try someone , Not vauxhall

dpb

how old is this thing anyway ??






this is when he tells us hes done quarter million miles

alcazar

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58 plate, so 08/09.
Done 102,000, always serviced.

New EGR valve, done in France, summer of 2015. Cost £480.......yeah, I know.

dpb

bought 100k miler Mondeo and had to fork out 1k for turbo and 1.5k for dmf and various needed stuff therein , within a year getting it although had some insurance payout on the clutch
Went for another 50k though ( and might gone further if id changed oil more often and cleaned out egr)

Have you tried any Vauxhall forums , theres usually ton of advice ...and warnings

dpb

you can buy decent scanner fro fault codes etc, might give you enough info not to keep feeding main dealer

seanvx

I'm sure you can have them deleted contact wg motorworks

zip106

So glad I bought an old 2003 reg petrol Forester (now on 146,000 miles) - just keeps going, and going, and going....

No pi$$ flaps, no EGR.... lovely

dpb

i would go for healthcheck on whats remaining , from an independent

and look at the forums




( diesels should go for 200k ! )

madwrx

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had a quick look on youtube- 6 bolts and 1 electrical connector right on the very top of the engine /15 minutes to remove and say an hour to clean tops- new EGR valves are around a hundred quid on EBAY if its faulty. 150 quid for an inlet manifold brand new from "nevlock performance" what have you got to lose??

tony de wonderful

I scrapped my Clio last year, maybe worth £1500 to 2000 I'm not sure. After changing the coil packs and plugs was stilling getting a misfire and high idle. Just not worth it for me to put more cash in.

dpb

Could just been a sensor needed swapping out or an air leak

imprezagaz

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My partner has the same car. Not long after we got it we had the same issues. We got a new inlet manifold with flaps and my mechanic mate fitted it. He said it was a pain to fit as the fuel pump needs removing as it's on the top pulley of the cambelt. It can be locked off in position though so you don't have to remove the belt.

With the egr we got the blanks (about £20) and had it mapped out. A year later and all is well. Might be worth getting a price from a decent back street garage.

What area are you in?

imprezagaz

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Also try cleaning out the map sensor on the top of the manifold (1 bolt holding it in) in some white spirits. This is known to reduce power and often get clogged up

alcazar

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Oh, the EGR is a cinch, I've cleaned it myself.

It's the work involved in replacing the manifold, there about 50 steps to getting it off, including draining coolant and etc, and quite a few who've tried it then report car won't start afterwards, had to be recovered to dealer.....OPCOM not talking to the parts??

I don't have a garage to work in...well, I do, but the Scoob is in there and the space is TINY. With the Astra in, there'd be zero space to walk around.

I'm talking to a local guy I trust about looking at the car, and the eldest's mate's dad has an MoT place nearby that does a lot of repairs, he might give me a better price.

alcazar

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Scunny...someone has to live there.

imprezagaz

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Haha, I'm only in Grimsby. If you get stuck I could give you the blokes number who did mine here. Only half hr down the road

alcazar

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Thanks, I'll see what the two contacts I have, say first.

imprezagaz

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gazney101

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Egr delete, swirl flaps delete, new manifold, remap.... Job a gudden

tony de wonderful

Yeah. Well a local mechanic did some work on it. I spend a day or so checking stuff and with nowhere to work on it myself I just cut my losses. Ideally I would have a big space to have left it and ****ed around with it on my own time.

imprezagaz

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There is maptech in Brigg that could map out the egr if you choose to blank it

alcazar

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and would cost more than putting it back to brand new spec.

alcazar

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I might do that. It's apparently the egr that fails, or gets clagged up itself, and that leads to swirl flaps and dpf, if fitted, failing.