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Are the government surpressing that facts about immigration?

Old 04 March 2014, 11:36 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26435000

Could be?

Potentially a bit of SN myth busting?
Old 05 March 2014, 12:38 PM
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I see that one of the points the report made was that for every 100 immigrants, that costs twenty-three British peoples' jobs.

The people who want the report squashed say it's less.

I say: EVEN IF IT ONLY COSTS ONE JOB per hundred Immigrants, THE PRICE IS TOO HIGH!

My family has personal experience of under-qualified, work-for-next-to-nothing Po's coming in and taking jobs.

They cost FOUR lads three years' work on an apprenticeship...they couldn't get more work, so couldn't ever finish the apprenticeship. Disgusting....but hey, the company concerned saved money, the owner could then put ANOTHER car in his six-car garage!
Old 05 March 2014, 12:41 PM
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Obviously.
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26435000

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Potentially a bit of SN myth busting?
Yes all the while illustrating how the government don't like to tell the truth unless it suits their agenda eh Martin?
Old 05 March 2014, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yes all the while illustrating how the government don't like to tell the truth unless it suits their agenda eh Martin?
That's basic statistical analysis, anyone with access to the raw data can twist the numbers to show what ever point they want them too.
Old 05 March 2014, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
That's basic statistical analysis, anyone with access to the raw data can twist the numbers to show what ever point they want them too.
Ah I see so we're only supposed to believe any figures such as crime figures when it aligns with our politiial persuasion. e.g. if the Tory government say crime is going down and you are a Tory then the report is valid, however if you are a Labour supporter it's not and vice versa OK I get it
Old 05 March 2014, 02:01 PM
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I do wish the immigration debate wasn't solely framed around economics. It impacts the man on the street in many other ways, which most politicians choose not to adderss. Farage acknowledges this, but no-one has taken him up on his points.
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I agree wholeheartedly.

School places, the NHS, more children in schools with no English and no money to help them, all quietly forgotten.
Old 05 March 2014, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Ah I see so we're only supposed to believe any figures such as crime figures when it aligns with our politiial persuasion. e.g. if the Tory government say crime is going down and you are a Tory then the report is valid, however if you are a Labour supporter it's not and vice versa OK I get it
if that's how you want to read that then go you
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Originally Posted by neil-h
if that's how you want to read that then go you
It was more of a corollary than an analysis
Old 06 March 2014, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
It was more of a corollary than an analysis
Very good
Old 06 March 2014, 09:16 AM
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My uncle had one of those corollary things, damn near killed him.
Old 06 March 2014, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 300gnspitzer
My uncle had one of those corollary things, damn near killed him.
Probably due to excessive sugar in his diet......
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26435000

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Potentially a bit of SN myth busting?
Could you ever trust a politician?

Les
Old 12 March 2014, 06:28 PM
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Never! Not even, or probably especially, not a local one.
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