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Old 21 October 2012, 03:05 PM
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My boiler has just started making a horrible screaming sound. If I just have the hot water switched on it's okay but as soon as I turn the heating on it screams. What the hell has happened. Is my boiler kaput?
Old 21 October 2012, 03:36 PM
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Just had a closer look and there is a large block attached in line on a water pipe this is what is making the noise. Is this a water pump of some sort?
Old 21 October 2012, 03:56 PM
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Maybe its to try to reduce limescale buildup and is getting a bit blocked.

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Old 21 October 2012, 04:40 PM
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What boiler is it?

There are some Combi boilers don't require the use of the pump for hot water but the do for heating obviously so it could be the pump motor that's on it's way out.
Old 21 October 2012, 04:47 PM
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Is it defo the boiler and not the water pump. mine screamed when the pump ran dry and died.
Old 21 October 2012, 04:49 PM
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managed to look at the circulation pump. It's a Grundfos UPS 15-50 model. It has stopped screaming now but is making a grinding sound. Called a gas engineer to come take a look. Looks like I can get a new one on eBay for around £50
Old 21 October 2012, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by magepaster
managed to look at the circulation pump. It's a Grundfos UPS 15-50 model. It has stopped screaming now but is making a grinding sound. Called a gas engineer to come take a look. Looks like I can get a new one on eBay for around £50
Sounds like it's either blocked in the system or the pump was running dry for a while and it's knackered the bearings in the motor.
Old 21 October 2012, 09:02 PM
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Yep sounds like your pump is knackered. Had to have mine changed earlier this year ( was a grundfoss too, although they are very common), but it's not too hard a job, so its not too expensive in the scale of things that can go wrong with heating systems... Lol
Cost us i believe £140 for a new pump, new isolation taps top & bottom, and the plumber to fit them!
The isolation taps are a good idea in theory as you can close them to isolate the pump so you can change it, but 99 times out of a 100, the pumps go so infrequently, that the taps are fcuked too and either won't close or are just gammed up.
Old 21 October 2012, 09:06 PM
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Heres a tip,buy same pump Grundfos ,just change the head..4 allen screws no need to undo the big nuts,thats making work for the fun of it
Old 21 October 2012, 09:10 PM
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As buster states just change the pump yourself with the 4 screws,you will run a high risk of further work if the big nuts are tight tight,by bending the inlet and outlet then need a plumber to come solder new 20/22mm joints for you.you run a scoob so its a walk in the park.
Old 22 October 2012, 03:46 PM
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Is the pump in the boiler or on pipework outside of the boiler.
Old 22 October 2012, 04:34 PM
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I thought this thread was going to be something to do with Ibiza
Old 22 October 2012, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
I thought this thread was going to be something to do with Ibiza
or Glenn Close
Old 22 October 2012, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
or Glenn Close
Or the OP's better half, if he was being very, very disrespectful
Old 22 October 2012, 06:00 PM
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Might be worth checking the water flow to the pump while you have it off. Yes it will make a mess but there is nothing worse then blowing a new pump by running it dry... Our water inlet was blocked halfway up in the celing!
Old 09 November 2012, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Busterbulldog
Heres a tip,buy same pump Grundfos ,just change the head..4 allen screws no need to undo the big nuts,thats making work for the fun of it
Hi

Is there likely to be anything wrong with the static bit - corrosion or anything?
I've just bought a new pump - same make as what was there originally.
Was hoping to do as you say tomorrow and just change the head.
Do I need to use seal from the new pump, or just keep the old one?
Its a DAB 55/130 pump
Old 09 November 2012, 04:42 PM
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My boiler screams from time to time too.

I just turn it off for a while and when I turn it back on, it's all good again.

It will probably be the reason for my death one day lol
Old 09 November 2012, 04:46 PM
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follow busterbulldog. The hances are it'll be plastic bodied and the main workings are just in the pump head.
20 minute job too, just make sure you get all the water out or your gonna get wet!
Old 09 November 2012, 05:49 PM
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Yeah - all plastic body

http://www.ukhps.co.uk/product_image..._76641_std.jpg
Old 09 November 2012, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
That doesnt look plastic bodied to me.
Old 09 November 2012, 08:58 PM
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Just be careful as manufactures are crafty and alter the bodies/heads sometimes to make you buy their spare part. Ideal are infamous for this.
Old 10 November 2012, 08:37 AM
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Ok, usually a plastic hydraulic block within the boiler. You'd only be using the cylindrical part of that pump.
Ideal are notorious for it, you should just buy a grundfos 15-50

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Old 10 November 2012, 09:40 AM
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I only ever change the pump head.The bit it connects to should be fine.Just make sure you get the correct model,either a 15/50 or 15/60,although replacing a 50 with a 60 shouldnt be an issue.
Old 10 November 2012, 10:32 AM
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I have the exact DAB replacement - 55/130
Old pump is probably 14 years old at a guess
Will have a go at this shortly
Old 13 November 2012, 09:39 AM
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Update:

Chickened out in the end.
Turned off valves, disconnected the power. and began opening the bleed screw- didn't fully remove it.
A LOT of water came out, and there was still water coming out a long time after I though it would.
So, basically I chickened out, tightened up the bleed screw, opened valves and then opened bleed screw(water came out under pressure, just like when I first attempted)
Reconnected power and called an adult
He's calling today to do my yearly boiler service and fit new pump.
Old 13 November 2012, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by urban
Update:

Chickened out in the end.
Turned off valves, disconnected the power. and began opening the bleed screw- didn't fully remove it.
A LOT of water came out, and there was still water coming out a long time after I though it would.
So, basically I chickened out, tightened up the bleed screw, opened valves and then opened bleed screw(water came out under pressure, just like when I first attempted)
Reconnected power and called an adult
He's calling today to do my yearly boiler service and fit new pump.

Cluck Cluck

Though if in doubt, prob the sensible thing to do.
Old 13 November 2012, 10:11 AM
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Thats what I thought, save the agro of a cold wife nagging me.
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Put some butter on your valve and watch ya boiler get to work
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The years just fly by.
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Strange, this is the second five-year-old thread someone dug up....

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