Afghan Invasion
20 July 2012, 04:28 PM
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Afghan Invasion
So that's what it is all about then.
Hate to say it but 'told you so'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18882996
Hate to say it but 'told you so'
Afghanistan has become the first country whose surface minerals have been mapped from the air.
The US Geological Survey released the results of a "hyperspectral imaging" effort, in which reflections of light from the ground are analysed.
Different minerals - as well as snow or vegetation - reflect specific colours, resulting in a "mineral map".
The map comprises more than 800 million data points corresponding to an area of 440,000 sq km, some 70% of the country.
Afghanistan is known to have vast reserves of oil, gas, copper, cobalt, gold and lithium. In late 2011, a consortium of Indian companies inked a deal to begin mining some of the country's large stores of iron.
But the country is known to have a wider array of mineral resources; in 2010, the Afghan ministry of mines claimed a value of its reserves of nearly a trillion dollars, then carrying out tours to promote investment in them.
But it remains to pin down which economically viable minerals are where, an effort for which the USGS's hyperspectral imaging expertise was enlisted.
In a series of 28 flights over 43 days, the USGS gathered the data from a height of 15,000m, using a camera to capture sunlight reflected from the ground. Each "pixel" of the camera was analysed and correlated with the materials that reflect at a given colour.
The USGS public release of the data includes two maps: one of iron and iron-bearing minerals, and one of minerals principally containing carbon, silicon, or sulphur.
The survey was funded by the US Department of Defense's Task Force for Business and Stability Operations (TFBSO) as well as the Afghan government.
"This is a tremendous tool for the Afghan government for locating and identifying its myriad rich mineral deposits," said TFBSO director Jim Bullion.
"These maps clearly show the enormous size and variety of Afghanistan's mineral wealth and position the country to become a world leader in the minerals sector."
The US Geological Survey released the results of a "hyperspectral imaging" effort, in which reflections of light from the ground are analysed.
Different minerals - as well as snow or vegetation - reflect specific colours, resulting in a "mineral map".
The map comprises more than 800 million data points corresponding to an area of 440,000 sq km, some 70% of the country.
Afghanistan is known to have vast reserves of oil, gas, copper, cobalt, gold and lithium. In late 2011, a consortium of Indian companies inked a deal to begin mining some of the country's large stores of iron.
But the country is known to have a wider array of mineral resources; in 2010, the Afghan ministry of mines claimed a value of its reserves of nearly a trillion dollars, then carrying out tours to promote investment in them.
But it remains to pin down which economically viable minerals are where, an effort for which the USGS's hyperspectral imaging expertise was enlisted.
In a series of 28 flights over 43 days, the USGS gathered the data from a height of 15,000m, using a camera to capture sunlight reflected from the ground. Each "pixel" of the camera was analysed and correlated with the materials that reflect at a given colour.
The USGS public release of the data includes two maps: one of iron and iron-bearing minerals, and one of minerals principally containing carbon, silicon, or sulphur.
The survey was funded by the US Department of Defense's Task Force for Business and Stability Operations (TFBSO) as well as the Afghan government.
"This is a tremendous tool for the Afghan government for locating and identifying its myriad rich mineral deposits," said TFBSO director Jim Bullion.
"These maps clearly show the enormous size and variety of Afghanistan's mineral wealth and position the country to become a world leader in the minerals sector."
20 July 2012, 05:34 PM
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The invasion was illegal! All them innocent lives of British Soldiers and Agani's for terrorist that never even existed. Now watch the corporate's make billions and trillions.
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20 July 2012, 05:46 PM
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So that's what it is all about then.
Hate to say it but 'told you so'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18882996
Hate to say it but 'told you so'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18882996
Also, your article says nothing about US companies having preferential access to these mineral deposits, and even states the only company to have lined up a contract to mine anything there so far is Indian.
I'll now wait for the 'ah but this, ah but that' response(s), which is sure to follow shortly, and make about as much sense as the thread-launch.
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20 July 2012, 07:25 PM
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The survey was funded by the US Department of Defense's Task Force for Business and Stability Operations (TFBSO) as well as the Afghan government.
20 July 2012, 10:06 PM
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Nice bit of 'cause follows effect' reasoning there. The survey showing the country's mineral wealth is made 10 years after the invasion, yet mineral wealth was supposedly the reason for that invasion
Also, your article says nothing about US companies having preferential access to these mineral deposits, and even states the only company to have lined up a contract to mine anything there so far is Indian.
I'll now wait for the 'ah but this, ah but that' response(s), which is sure to follow shortly, and make about as much sense as the thread-launch.
Also, your article says nothing about US companies having preferential access to these mineral deposits, and even states the only company to have lined up a contract to mine anything there so far is Indian.
I'll now wait for the 'ah but this, ah but that' response(s), which is sure to follow shortly, and make about as much sense as the thread-launch.
20 July 2012, 11:21 PM
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Shaid can you not conceive of people doing things for reasons other than immediate self-interest?
20 July 2012, 11:32 PM
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This is about using trade to build the country and secure it, Im sure. What thatll do for actual residents will be virtually nothing Im sure with a small minority getting very rich.
21 July 2012, 02:30 AM
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21 July 2012, 03:07 AM
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No because capitalism is based on self interest. And guess what Capitalism is what rules over here and the US.
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21 July 2012, 08:15 AM
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This is funny. The same people who bang on about how great their 'boys' are and what a waste of life it is, bring home, help for hero enthusiasts, etc yawn and make sily comments in the face of the truth. You guys are really doing the armed forces a great disservice. The youngsters went in on a pretense that they are doing good when all that is really happening is that they are being used as tools to secure $$$, losing lives and making enemies in the process.
21 July 2012, 09:30 AM
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What more of a reason would you need than that one?
21 July 2012, 10:15 AM
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Rogue CIA agent has beef with the people who created him and therefore decides to bomb them and then conveniently have a base in a place with a lot of untapped $$$.
I really hope the Afghans do not let anyone steal their wealth. Ironically the phrase 'no surrender' applies here.
I really hope the Afghans do not let anyone steal their wealth. Ironically the phrase 'no surrender' applies here.
21 July 2012, 10:25 AM
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Rogue CIA agent has beef with the people who created him and therefore decides to bomb them and then conveniently have a base in a place with a lot of untapped $$$.
I really hope the Afghans do not let anyone steal their wealth. Ironically the phrase 'no surrender' applies here.
I really hope the Afghans do not let anyone steal their wealth. Ironically the phrase 'no surrender' applies here.
I don't get the "no surrender" comment, what do you mean by that?
The wealth (if there actually is any) in Afghanistan has always been through selling opium (drug trafficking), typically to the West etc. (that's us by the way). That's a completely immoral trade in my opinion, but I again see nobody condemning that, but worrying more about potential mineral extraction... whereas it that came to be it would always be the Afghan Government selling mineral rights and (hopefully) using the monies to actually build a better place for its people.
21 July 2012, 11:24 AM
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Really? that is so far fetched that if you genuinely believed that I'd be really concerned. You would seemed to be getting fact, fiction and pure fantasy confused.
I don't get the "no surrender" comment, what do you mean by that?
The wealth (if there actually is any) in Afghanistan has always been through selling opium (drug trafficking), typically to the West etc. (that's us by the way). That's a completely immoral trade in my opinion, but I again see nobody condemning that, but worrying more about potential mineral extraction... whereas it that came to be it would always be the Afghan Government selling mineral rights and (hopefully) using the monies to actually build a better place for its people.
I don't get the "no surrender" comment, what do you mean by that?
The wealth (if there actually is any) in Afghanistan has always been through selling opium (drug trafficking), typically to the West etc. (that's us by the way). That's a completely immoral trade in my opinion, but I again see nobody condemning that, but worrying more about potential mineral extraction... whereas it that came to be it would always be the Afghan Government selling mineral rights and (hopefully) using the monies to actually build a better place for its people.
Opium growing, can be stopped easily
with a carpet bombing, it isn't so that's that question answered.
No surrender - native English keep on banging on about it, you know the rest!
21 July 2012, 11:31 AM
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Opium growing, can be stopped easily with a carpet bombing, it isn't so that's that question answered.
No surrender - native English keep on banging on about it, you know the rest!
21 July 2012, 02:13 PM
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In the future historians are going to look at this blatant invasion for resources and say WTF!
It is shocking to see how many people fall for this war of terror bull when te obvious stares them in the face.
It is shocking to see how many people fall for this war of terror bull when te obvious stares them in the face.
21 July 2012, 02:20 PM
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Rogue CIA agent has beef with the people who created him and therefore decides to bomb them and then conveniently have a base in a place with a lot of untapped $$$.
I really hope the Afghans do not let anyone steal their wealth. Ironically the phrase 'no surrender' applies here.
I really hope the Afghans do not let anyone steal their wealth. Ironically the phrase 'no surrender' applies here.
