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Old 22 September 2014, 01:13 PM
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These chumps are looking ever more unelectable to my mind.
Old 22 September 2014, 02:44 PM
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They've ensured that when they voted the younger of the 2 Millibands as there leader
Old 22 September 2014, 02:50 PM
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Breathing a sigh of relief about the Scotland thing no doubt! If that had gone ahead the likelihood of ever seeing a labour government again in what would be left of the UK must have been pretty low.

That said carry on the way they are and it'll be the case anyway
Old 22 September 2014, 03:50 PM
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Thank God.

Now we just need the Tories and the Limp Dems unelectable and we are there.
Old 22 September 2014, 04:32 PM
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I had to LOL at the 'We're going to cut child benefit' line - as if they were going to be doing the economy a big favour by doing so....

This is probably the most 'untouchable' benefit there is..... hahahahaha!
(unless you earn £50k plus!)
Old 22 September 2014, 04:37 PM
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I think the 50k threshold will slowly lower tbh

and I doubt the "free at the point of use" NHS has more that 20 years left in it - whatever flavour of government
Old 22 September 2014, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Hu
I had to LOL at the 'We're going to cut child benefit' line - as if they were going to be doing the economy a big favour by doing so....

This is probably the most 'untouchable' benefit there is..... hahahahaha!
(unless you earn £50k plus!)
Well exactly, it was, until they decided to start means testing it. Don't want to go PSLewis over this but surely a percentage of the older parents in professional occupations, such as myself, are earning over £50k. Just when I thought I had my chance to claw back a little bit of cash from all I've paid in via way of tax and NI and it gets taken away. *****rs.
Old 22 September 2014, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Thank God.

Now we just need the Tories and the Limp Dems unelectable and we are there.
They are!
Old 22 September 2014, 05:43 PM
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It's the line about how " We won't be wasting any more of your money without telling you where it's going " ,or something to that effect that has me in stitches.
Old 22 September 2014, 05:47 PM
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I think younger milliband would have a better chance as a stand up comic Tbh, specially with that mug

Maybe ballsup could back him up
Old 22 September 2014, 06:17 PM
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always easy to spend other peoples money
Old 22 September 2014, 07:16 PM
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I watched ***** speech. I am sure he picked up the conservative manifesto and recited verbatim
Old 22 September 2014, 07:36 PM
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Well....do you expect him to say,
"Hi, my name is Ed...I was big in both Blair and Brown's governments...you know, the ones that presided over ruining the country, socially engineering the population and left a note saying the money had all gone?"

Maybe he should......
Old 22 September 2014, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
I watched ***** speech. I am sure he picked up the conservative manifesto and recited verbatim
Exactly what I thought. It just confirmed to me that voters currently have no choice as both main parties are offering exactly the same thing.
Old 22 September 2014, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
always easy to spend other peoples money
That's the problem with socialism.
Old 22 September 2014, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
That's the problem with socialism.


Does anyone other than a handful of people on this forum have the slightest idea of what socialism actually really is?

Instead of trotting out soundbites you have gleaned from your favourite edition of the Daily Mail why not do some proper reading about it?

If you still want to slag it off after that then fine, but making comments like this is trite at best!
Old 22 September 2014, 10:12 PM
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I know what it is

Throw billions away in order to kick start the economy.


And I spect most of the voters realise this and why lab won't get a look in for the next decade
Old 23 September 2014, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jonc
That's the problem with socialism.
The over inflated executive pay comes from shareholders and often, as we have seen does not reflect shareholder value

As I said easy to spend other people's money
Old 23 September 2014, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
The over inflated executive pay comes from shareholders and often, as we have seen does not reflect shareholder value

As I said easy to spend other people's money
Sorry, I don't see the link between opposition to executive pay of a shareholder owned hypothetical organisation to that of socialist econimic system. The difference in remuneration of executives between a company's realised profit/loss bottom line figures to that of market expectation of the company's future performance and resultant share capital as percieved by shareholders and, ultimately, the market have nothing to do with spending other people's money.
Old 23 September 2014, 11:58 AM
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who does the profit belong to, the executives or the shareholders
Old 23 September 2014, 03:18 PM
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Can't believe how hell bent Ed is on increasing house building. Soon the only open spaces to build upon will be the drag and race tracks.

#mattspropaganda.
Old 23 September 2014, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
who does the profit belong to, the executives or the shareholders
Profit "belongs" to neither, it's an accounting term. Profit (or loss) is the difference between revenue and costs of a trading entity. In terms of level ownership rights, shareholders are at the bottom of the food chain. Shareholders invest their money in company stock for a return, if the stock price goes higher than their initial investment, they can choose to sell in order to make their own profit and may also see some of the company's profits in the form of dividends if the company has an obligation to issue them. Shareholders can also vote to decide the level of pay of board members and company execs. How you conclude that the supposed disparity of high exec pay and the market capitalisation of a company or it's ability/inability to increase wealth of its shareholder somehow represents the "spending of other people's money", to me, remains unclear.
Old 23 September 2014, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan

Does anyone other than a handful of people on this forum have the slightest idea of what socialism actually really is?

A community in which power, wealth, and opportunity are in the hands of the many, not the few. Trouble is it never works as some are more equal than others.
Old 23 September 2014, 05:55 PM
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Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery
nuff said
Old 23 September 2014, 07:00 PM
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Labour reverting to type, a Mansion Tax that will apparently save the NHS.
Old 23 September 2014, 08:31 PM
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The man is a complete twonk.

A Hungarian Jew...how can we have him as PM, I mean, come on?
Old 23 September 2014, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Labour reverting to type, a Mansion Tax that will apparently save the NHS.
Yeah, seems they need to do some more sums: how does a few billion cover something costing over £100billion without increasing the uk deficit?
Old 24 September 2014, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Yeah, seems they need to do some more sums: how does a few billion cover something costing over £100billion without increasing the uk deficit?
Would it even raise a few billion I wonder? This must be a fairly expensive tax to administer ie properties would need to be valued and verified.

They also want to retain the 50% tax rate which has been shown by independent bodies to be poor at actually raising revenue.

So political ideology and class politics are more important than actual economics

Unfortunately the polls show that Labour would be the largest party if an election was called tomorrow, Milliband would be our PM and Ed ***** in charge of the economy

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Is there any way to find out if these politicians have any accountancy ability, or even advanced maths compentancy barring qualifications, let alone business management experience in the real world?

As most are career politicians from the outset: Does a politics/economics qualification actually make these guys any more compentant than the average business owner? I'd say no.

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