Muslims Against Crusades
11 November 2011, 10:24 AM
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So now it is illegal to have any sort of association with these fcukwits does that mean the next time they go to shout their mouths off in public every single one of them will be arrested?
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16107674
Also as the official spokesman for them shouldn't Anjem Choudary be arrested immediately? He is committing a crime under the new law:
To me it seems a law has been passed that wont be upheld, unless anyone knows differently and Anjem Choudary has been arrested as of midnight last night?
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16107674
Also as the official spokesman for them shouldn't Anjem Choudary be arrested immediately? He is committing a crime under the new law:
The decision means anybody who is a member of, or supports the organisation is committing a criminal offence.
11 November 2011, 10:30 AM
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Chowdry's beliefs, incitements and actions are in direct contradiction to the laws and customs of this country, he should be forcibly removed to another country more suitable asap!
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11 November 2011, 10:58 AM
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This is the problem with the right to Freedom of Speech act.
I don't think that there will ever be crystal clear solution for this sort of thing.
'You can say what you like as long as we agree with it and that it does not encourage violence or hatred.'
I think what the idiots on that website are saying are wrong, no question.
But how do you enforce it in a free country?
Why do you think so many extremists end up in our country.
Our government has no *****.
The only way is to change our freedom of speech law.
I don't think that there will ever be crystal clear solution for this sort of thing.
'You can say what you like as long as we agree with it and that it does not encourage violence or hatred.'
I think what the idiots on that website are saying are wrong, no question.
But how do you enforce it in a free country?
Why do you think so many extremists end up in our country.
Our government has no *****.
The only way is to change our freedom of speech law.
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11 November 2011, 11:48 AM
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I am not sure why they have been banned.
The nature of a mature, civilized, democatic society is that there is freedom of speech.
No matter how unpalatable that may be.
The nature of a mature, civilized, democatic society is that there is freedom of speech.
No matter how unpalatable that may be.
11 November 2011, 12:52 PM
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a Muslim friend of mine posted some pictures on his FB page - the images are the war graves in Belgium. the pictures are of gravestones of fallen soldiers, Muslim, Christian, Sikhs and Jews to name but a few.
What the preacher of hate and unrest Chowdry and this website says and stands for i find aberrant and insulting to those that gave their lives and to those that remember them, no mater the faith/religion!
Chowdry and his sheep-like followers seem intent on causing mistrust leading to confrontation, violence and hatred and widening the divisions within communities- this is nothing to do with freedom of speech and all to do with causing problems to suit his own evil agendas
What the preacher of hate and unrest Chowdry and this website says and stands for i find aberrant and insulting to those that gave their lives and to those that remember them, no mater the faith/religion!
Chowdry and his sheep-like followers seem intent on causing mistrust leading to confrontation, violence and hatred and widening the divisions within communities- this is nothing to do with freedom of speech and all to do with causing problems to suit his own evil agendas
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11 November 2011, 01:00 PM
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a Muslim friend of mine posted some pictures on his FB page - the images are the war graves in Belgium. the pictures are of gravestones of fallen soldiers, Muslim, Christian, Sikhs and Jews to name but a few.
What the preacher of hate and unrest Chowdry and this website says and stands for i find aberrant and insulting to those that gave their lives and to those that remember them, no mater the faith/religion!
What the preacher of hate and unrest Chowdry and this website says and stands for i find aberrant and insulting to those that gave their lives and to those that remember them, no mater the faith/religion!
They get way too much publicity as it is
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11 November 2011, 01:08 PM
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The publicity this vile excuse for a human being gets does little to further his cause and exposes him for what he is.
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11 November 2011, 01:14 PM
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This guy has no constituency, and yet gets a huge amount of PR for his vile world view.
Ignoring him is surely the best policy
11 November 2011, 01:47 PM
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This is the problem with the right to Freedom of Speech act.
I don't think that there will ever be crystal clear solution for this sort of thing.
'You can say what you like as long as we agree with it and that it does not encourage violence or hatred.'
I think what the idiots on that website are saying are wrong, no question.
But how do you enforce it in a free country?
Why do you think so many extremists end up in our country.
Our government has no *****.
The only way is to change our freedom of speech law.
I don't think that there will ever be crystal clear solution for this sort of thing.
'You can say what you like as long as we agree with it and that it does not encourage violence or hatred.'
I think what the idiots on that website are saying are wrong, no question.
But how do you enforce it in a free country?
Why do you think so many extremists end up in our country.
Our government has no *****.
The only way is to change our freedom of speech law.
11 November 2011, 02:09 PM
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If he was actually inciting racial hatred or terrorist activites then he/they should be brought to book
Otherwise leave'em to it , theyve a view
Otherwise leave'em to it , theyve a view
11 November 2011, 02:13 PM
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The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
Yes, we are free. But it has to be for the right reasons. We are not free to DO what we want, so why should we be free to SAY what we want?
If the law can be applied to determine the correctness of our actions, why can't be applied to determine the correctness of our words?
So in essence, I agree with what the government has done.
11 November 2011, 02:20 PM
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It is absolutely right to ban or arrest the leader of an organisation which has an avowed aim to incite violence against the population and also to insult the memory of those brave men who risked and/or lost their lives in the defence of the freedom of this country.
The leader can stand on the street and spout about it if he wants, but illegal and insulting actions are wrong and should be dealt with severely.
If he doesn't like it then he can go back to where he came from.
Les
The leader can stand on the street and spout about it if he wants, but illegal and insulting actions are wrong and should be dealt with severely.
If he doesn't like it then he can go back to where he came from.
Les
11 November 2011, 02:54 PM
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The best expression I can think of the needs to be applied to this situation is:
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
Yes, we are free. But it has to be for the right reasons. We are not free to DO what we want, so why should we be free to SAY what we want?
If the law can be applied to determine the correctness of our actions, why can't be applied to determine the correctness of our words?
So in essence, I agree with what the government has done.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
Yes, we are free. But it has to be for the right reasons. We are not free to DO what we want, so why should we be free to SAY what we want?
If the law can be applied to determine the correctness of our actions, why can't be applied to determine the correctness of our words?
So in essence, I agree with what the government has done.
11 November 2011, 02:55 PM
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You guy do realise hes using the right won by the soldiers to protest against them? o the irony lol
Makes you wonder what would have happened to him had the germans actualy won, i seriously doubt he would be alive, let alone in england.
Makes you wonder what would have happened to him had the germans actualy won, i seriously doubt he would be alive, let alone in england.
11 November 2011, 02:58 PM
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EDL are morons but they don't, for example, pick out a day that isn't politically or racially motivated, a day that is about respecting the history of this country and those that gave their lives that it is here and use it for their own ends.
They are simply thugs in the majority, not very clever or well organised ones at that. MAC are a different kettle of fish.
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11 November 2011, 03:19 PM
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http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16108502
So they were arrested before they had even done anything?
So has that fcukwit Choudary been arrested yet? Nope thought not because the Police are too spineless to do it him being a minority and all that. Yet a white person/s (albeit mindless dimwitted thugs) gets arrested before they have actually breached the peace. Oh the reverse discrimination that happens in this country is wonderful.
So they were arrested before they had even done anything?
So has that fcukwit Choudary been arrested yet? Nope thought not because the Police are too spineless to do it him being a minority and all that. Yet a white person/s (albeit mindless dimwitted thugs) gets arrested before they have actually breached the peace. Oh the reverse discrimination that happens in this country is wonderful.
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11 November 2011, 03:26 PM
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Bit of a difference in the way they go about things.
EDL are morons but they don't, for example, pick out a day that isn't politically or racially motivated, a day that is about respecting the history of this country and those that gave their lives that it is here and use it for their own ends.
They are simply thugs in the majority, not very clever or well organised ones at that. MAC are a different kettle of fish.
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EDL are morons but they don't, for example, pick out a day that isn't politically or racially motivated, a day that is about respecting the history of this country and those that gave their lives that it is here and use it for their own ends.
They are simply thugs in the majority, not very clever or well organised ones at that. MAC are a different kettle of fish.
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MAC and their leader are a different kettle of fish.....
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11 November 2011, 03:36 PM
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How about EDL and MAC go out and settle it like men,
Large farmers field, no guns, sharp implaments, explosives, baseball bats or nickledusters etc just fists.
Winners are the ones that walk away.
Large farmers field, no guns, sharp implaments, explosives, baseball bats or nickledusters etc just fists.
Winners are the ones that walk away.
11 November 2011, 03:46 PM
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Are they? I think people and especially the daily ****ing mail give MAC too much publicity and an excellent platform to stand on. MAC don't see that the press are exposing them? MAC see it as free advertising. I don't see the difference between EDL and MAC other than EDL like to pick fights on kids and generally be morons where MAC just like to shout about it. Two cheeks of the same ****. The only thing seperating them is a bit of ****.
MAC and their leader are a different kettle of fish.....
MAC and their leader are a different kettle of fish.....