Legal advice re red light camera
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Legal advice re red light camera
I drive an hgv for a living and was in gateshead on friday on the a184 park road, was turning left into an indusrtrial estate, there was a red light camera beside me, the lights were red when i stopped, but as i was at the lights( both set of lights were right beside me making it too hard to see them due to the hight of the cab) there was no light in front of me only beside me.
I could not see them (sat for a good few minutes)so decided to go as reversing would have been dangerious and the road ahead was clear so i just had to go.
Now im worried that the camera would have picked me up if they were on red, my insurance has already went through the roof due to being caught on the phone last year.
where would i stand on this?
Cheers
Jay
I could not see them (sat for a good few minutes)so decided to go as reversing would have been dangerious and the road ahead was clear so i just had to go.
Now im worried that the camera would have picked me up if they were on red, my insurance has already went through the roof due to being caught on the phone last year.
where would i stand on this?
Cheers
Jay
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Yeh mate was sitting at the lights for ages and could not see if at green or not, so craweld through as was at 44 ton so was only rolling its all i could do as if i reversed to see the light there may have been someone behind me and would have been worse if i went over the top of some poor sod waiting behind me.
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sometimes as a hgv driver there are situations when cars stop/stall in front of you leaving you stranded halfway across the junction and in a dangerous position, forcing you to unfortunately clear the junction. maybe this may have been the case for you if you were caught and leaving you in a position to contest the offence. hope this helps
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sometimes as a hgv driver there are situations when cars stop/stall in front of you leaving you stranded halfway across the junction and in a dangerous position, forcing you to unfortunately clear the junction. maybe this may have been the case for you if you were caught and leaving you in a position to contest the offence. hope this helps
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If its not safe for you to clear the junction then stop even if the light is on green,does not mean you have to pull forward when the light goes to green,if you don't think you can clear the junction in time.On the other hand mate i don't mean to sound harsh but you should of stopped well before the junction so you could see the lights,unless i'm reading this wrong.
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If its not safe for you to clear the junction then stop even if the light is on green,does not mean you have to pull forward when the light goes to green,if you don't think you can clear the junction in time.On the other hand mate i don't mean to sound harsh but you should of stopped well before the junction so you could see the lights,unless i'm reading this wrong.
i pride myself in my clean licence so would never jump a red light, its just nt worth it, just not happy at not bein able to see the lights that are set at car hight level,
i sat there for ages, the only thing i could have done was reverse a bit but cant see if a car is close behind so rather take the chance at a clear junction rather than reverse over the top of someone.
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I was not through the juncton the light was at red when i got there i stopped on the line but when i looked ahead for the light, there was none there, only the 2 beside me, the traffic lights are way to far forward for an artic there was no way of seeing them as they were directly beside me, they should be further forward, or another set of light acrss the junction, i drive all over the uk and these must be the worst set of light i have come across.
i pride myself in my clean licence so would never jump a red light, its just nt worth it, just not happy at not bein able to see the lights that are set at car hight level,
i sat there for ages, the only thing i could have done was reverse a bit but cant see if a car is close behind so rather take the chance at a clear junction rather than reverse over the top of someone.
i pride myself in my clean licence so would never jump a red light, its just nt worth it, just not happy at not bein able to see the lights that are set at car hight level,
i sat there for ages, the only thing i could have done was reverse a bit but cant see if a car is close behind so rather take the chance at a clear junction rather than reverse over the top of someone.
Also if something had been behind they probably would have pipped you on the horn.
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was doing the right thing as sat untill no vehicles were in site before moving thro the lights, only an idiot would revers a 45foot trailer not knowing if a car was sitting at the back of it.
The noise of the truck and lenth of it means i would probably not hear a tiny car horn or felt even hitting it.
Its a stupid set of light, a normal junction has lights at the far end, but not that junction.
i dont want to try and get out of a fine but would be pissed off getting points for something i could not help, the point for being on my phone last year were my fault, for being stupid picking it up, just seems like a money making junction as there bound to know its hard to see the lights hence the camera and no lights through the junction.
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i agree with phsically getting out as its risk assesment dont think anyone would pip though lol insurance payout ps ive been driving 44 ton hgv s for thirty years i know the 184 aswell to the op which ind est
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Paul you may have some merit in what you say,but people don't always think clear in those type of situations..Although you could go along the lines that he is from what he says an experienced hgv driver..Mate if it ever happens next time if unsure don't pull off you may look a bit of a plonker,if the other traffic had stopped and your way was clear,then just maybe your lights were green,i'm sure if they wasn't like paul said traffic from behind would be beating on the horns.usually there is a traffic light opposite from the main lights incase you run past them though..
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Paul you may have some merit in what you say,but people don't always think clear in those type of situations..Although you could go along the lines that he is from what he says an experienced hgv driver..Mate if it ever happens next time if unsure don't pull off you may look a bit of a plonker,if the other traffic had stopped and your way was clear,then just maybe your lights were green,i'm sure if they wasn't like paul said traffic from behind would be beating on the horns.usually there is a traffic light opposite from the main lights incase you run past them though..
It would be mad to just revers back on what should be a more set out junction, there bound to catch many hgv driver on it so why not put a set of light through the junction....................coz they wont make any money if they did!!
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Everybody makes mistakes, its just not everyone that gets caught making them.
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If i had jumped the light and ment it i would not have posted on here as would deserve the points and fine.
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There's only 2 red light camera's on the by-pass. If you were turning left onto Green Lane, then the camera would have been facing you, therefore nowt to worry about.
However, if you'd been turning left on to Neilson Road, by Gateshead International Stadium, then you may have an issue.
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I was told that they have sensors buried in the road and if you pass them with the lights at red it will take a picture. The speed is of no consequence.
There was an incident on here once when a bloke moved a couple of feet to let an ambulance got by and he was snapped. They would not let him off even when the ambulance people supported him!
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There was an incident on here once when a bloke moved a couple of feet to let an ambulance got by and he was snapped. They would not let him off even when the ambulance people supported him!
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If you went slow enough the camera will have a couple of photos of the side of your truck, no plate you will have the opportunity to contest the fine anyway.
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