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Old 01 March 2011, 12:21 PM
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Default Where do "lost" e-mails GO?

Recently had a few, sent from my ntlworld account, disappear for up to two months, then reappear with that day's date on it.
What's going on with that then?
Old 01 March 2011, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Recently had a few, sent from my ntlworld account, disappear for up to two months, then reappear with that day's date on it.
What's going on with that then?

view the email headers - it'll tell you what Server they were stuck at
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Old 01 March 2011, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Recently had a few, sent from my ntlworld account, disappear for up to two months, then reappear with that day's date on it.
What's going on with that then?
your using NTLWORLD for email, that would be your problem!
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From my days in IT at school I remember my teacher yakking on what happens:

I I remember rightly, it goes a little like this:

A mail server somewhere goes down, messages pending delivery are stored, creating a backlog. When the server starts up again it carrys on processing CURRENT emails only. But the backlog is left pending whilst it awaits for a set time where it will be processed. This is usually scheduled during a period of low server demand to stop the server (and associated servers it sends to) from grinding to a halt due to it being unable to process current emails and the backlog together.....get it wrong and it would create a second backlog.

The alternative is to bounce back emails as undelivered. But if its a major email server, then this is to be avoided, as the amount of bounced emails can cause other email servers to become overloaded.
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
From my days in IT at school I remember my teacher yakking on what happens:

I I remember rightly, it goes a little like this:

A mail server somewhere goes down, messages pending delivery are stored, creating a backlog. When the server starts up again it carrys on processing CURRENT emails only. But the backlog is left pending whilst it awaits for a set time where it will be processed. This is usually scheduled during a period of low server demand to stop the server (and associated servers it sends to) from grinding to a halt due to it being unable to process current emails and the backlog together.....get it wrong and it would create a second backlog.

The alternative is to bounce back emails as undelivered. But if its a major email server, then this is to be avoided, as the amount of bounced emails can cause other email servers to become overloaded.

Funnily enough that is exactly what we tell our clients when the email server goes offline and then comes back up
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Originally Posted by Scooby Soon!
your using NTLWORLD for email, that would be your problem!
is that right? Or just a p*ss-take? Who SHOULD I use?

Ali: that makes sense. Cheers.
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I think they had a bit of a hoo-har when they shifted all the email over too google, but don't quote me on that.

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It's not given me many problems, apart from this, and it DOES happen to hotmail e-mails too.
Old 01 March 2011, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
is that right? Or just a p*ss-take? Who SHOULD I use?

Ali: that makes sense. Cheers.
As a former NTLWorld employee, I would have to agree that their email service is pretty shoddy.

As for alternatives, if you can live without a proper mail program like Outlook or whatever, Yahoo mail is well worth looking at - unlimited size mailbox, one of the most effective spam-filters in the business, and accessible anywhere. The only real downside is mails aren't automatically copied to a Sent items folders when you're writing them. Gmail is also very good.
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