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Old 05 January 2009, 01:15 PM
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A 30-year-old woman was killed when her car ended up in the path of a train at a level crossing in Lincolnshire after colliding with a van.

One can only imagine what it would be like in a situation like that! My thoughts go out to her family

BBC NEWS | England | Lincolnshire | Crash driver killed on rail line
Old 05 January 2009, 01:21 PM
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That is horrible and I too feel for the family, must have been a horrible way to go for the woman, frantically trying to get out of the path of the train.

I do always wonder why people don't just get out of their cars to escape but that's easy for me to say, sitting here, I'm sure the shock of the whole thing made thinking logically a bit difficult
Old 05 January 2009, 01:23 PM
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Sod the car... she should of just got out and ran....... it is unbelievable.... all the space in the world and she had to end up there
Old 07 January 2009, 01:13 PM
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I accidentally got into a similar situation on a very fast line in Lincs. It was certainly horrifying and I was lucky that the car recovered from where it was stuck in time for me to get off the crossing. Luckily there was a much bigger delay than she had before the train arrived. 30 seconds as she had was far too tight I think. It was a toss up whether it was quicker to run for it or to unstick the car.

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Old 07 January 2009, 01:17 PM
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Horrific

Not wrong there fella.

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Old 07 January 2009, 01:18 PM
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Should simply do away with AHB crossings, and have them all CCTV, much safer IMO. This Could not have happened if that were the case.
Old 07 January 2009, 01:20 PM
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Horrible story, I heard about this Monday evening when I got home. Something like that happens about twice a year close to us. Seem to have alot of these crossings in Lincolnshire
Old 07 January 2009, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mrtheedge2u2
Sod the car... she should of just got out and ran....... it is unbelievable.... all the space in the world and she had to end up there
That was my first thought. I'd have got the **** out straight away. S0d the car.

Guess it's natural selection though. If your to stupid to get out of the way of a train coming for you.............
Old 07 January 2009, 01:28 PM
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Jesus, the woman had already been involved in an accident, she was probably dazed/shocked and $hit scared.
Old 07 January 2009, 02:28 PM
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Was reading it on the Sun, how sad, she was due to get married soon,
Train was 2 minutes early too.
Old 07 January 2009, 04:55 PM
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Bad luck all round .

She may well have been dazed but i reckon more likley wanted to save her motor
Old 07 January 2009, 05:02 PM
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Indeed bad luck i would of jumped out asap sod the car.....where is hancock when you need him
Old 07 January 2009, 05:28 PM
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Very sad indeed, but I don't understand the people criticising the train driver in the paper today. The train may only have doing 50mph but It's still going to take a fair distance to stop.
Old 07 January 2009, 05:43 PM
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We have these near us, the barrier comes down, and the train arrives 30+ secs later

surely the train driver should have seen this car stuck at least a significant

distance down the line.

if a train can stop evertime it comes into the station with enough bangs jolts

and shunts, to p*ss every passenger of, one emergency stop would be

insignificant

will BTP be measuring the skids to see how fast the train was going?

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Old 07 January 2009, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360
We have these near us, the barrier comes down, and the train arrives 30+ secs later

surely the train driver should have seen this car stuck at least a significant

distance down the line.

if a train can stop evertime it comes into the station with enough bangs jolts

and shunts, to p*ss every passenger of, one emergency stop would be

insignificant

will BTP be measuring the skids to see how fast the train was going?

mart
No the BTP wont measure the skud marks they will take a OTMR(On Train Monitoring Recorder) and study the forward facing cctv if fitted and carry out a brake and speedo test. As for stopping in a station it might not have been stopping there, remember a train train takes a mile and a quarter to stop from 125mph and cannot steer around a obsruction on the line,
Old 07 January 2009, 06:11 PM
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---edited by webteam to remove ref to offensive post---

Whoa, nothing like a bit of BBS suicide is there Matt, remember, even if she was a total stunner before, the lady had a train hit her, hard, she died, and nobody looks there best after that, regardless of how they started, even if its no loss to you I am sure her family, her fiancé and the kids she helped teach might miss her.

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Old 07 January 2009, 06:15 PM
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Guys,

MattW has been warned for his post ( I have also removed the offending item). Lets leave it at that and not let this thread descend into x is a right **** etc eh? Appreciate the post has provoked strong feelings, but just insulting people isn't going to achieve anything!

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Old 07 January 2009, 06:58 PM
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Just a thought but the woman was from Lincs, about 7 or 8 years ago there was a lot of stuff in the newspapers re a Lincs guy who derailed a train near Selby because his car was on the track. IIRC ten people were killed and he was sent to prison, perhaps in those few seconds she thought that leaving the car on the tracks might cause other fatalities and that had something to do with her staying in and trying to shift it.
Old 07 January 2009, 06:59 PM
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Bit heavy with the editing aren't we?
Old 07 January 2009, 07:10 PM
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Succession of posts that did nothing but call the offending poster (who has already been reprimanded) a ****!

If people want to put some effort into a rebuttal, or at least do something a bit more constructive to voice their disapproval then fine, but just posting insults achieves nowt and is against T&Cs.

I could always reinstate the posts and issue warnings?

Sometimes a mod just can't win!
Old 07 January 2009, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Lydia72
Just a thought but the woman was from Lincs, about 7 or 8 years ago there was a lot of stuff in the newspapers re a Lincs guy who derailed a train near Selby because his car was on the track. IIRC ten people were killed and he was sent to prison, perhaps in those few seconds she thought that leaving the car on the tracks might cause other fatalities and that had something to do with her staying in and trying to shift it.
I'd be suprised. That woman was from the other end of the county to the guy involved in that crash. The south dont have much to do with us northerners

I was at work one evening in Lincoln and was in a job car that was generally regarded as on its last legs which stalled as I was crossing a railway line. Of course the warning bells went off and the barriers started coming down.
The car wouldn't restart and I was just about to reach for the door and abandon ship when it restarted and I was able to drive off with only a few seconds before a frieght train shot past........very very scary moment

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Old 07 January 2009, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bonehead
I'd be suprised. That woman was from the other end of the county to the guy involved in that crash. The south dont have much to do with us northerners
No? I'm up the Northern end and we still get the news re Spalding and Boston area
Old 07 January 2009, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bonehead
I'd be suprised. That woman was from the other end of the county to the guy involved in that crash. The south dont have much to do with us northerners

I was at work one evening in Lincoln and was in a job car that was generally regarded as on its last legs which stalled as I was crossing a railway line. Of course the warning bells went off and the barriers started coming down.
The car wouldn't restart and I was just about to reach for the door and abandon ship when it restarted and I was able to drive off with only a few seconds before a frieght train shot past........very very scary moment

All on the same local BBC news, but the driver in question monopolised the national news for days, so dismissing this was far from well thought out.
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Succession of posts that did nothing but call the offending poster (who has already been reprimanded) a ****!

If people want to put some effort into a rebuttal, or at least do something a bit more constructive to voice their disapproval then fine, but just posting insults achieves nowt and is against T&Cs.

I could always reinstate the posts and issue warnings?

Sometimes a mod just can't win!
I was being sarcastic with mine, I thought Matts post was highly amusing.
Old 07 January 2009, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Iwan
I was being sarcastic with mine, I thought Matts post was highly amusing.
I didn't delete your post!

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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
I didn't delete your post!

Well somebody did....
Old 08 January 2009, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Iwan
Well somebody did....
*inserts voice in Iwan's head*

They are all against you, Iwan; you must destroy them all!

Your post was deleted by another member of the webteam, mate. We are anxious that this doesn't become an 'x is a tosser, no, y is a tosser for endorsing their humour thread'. Otherwise, in a few hours we'll likely have an array of RTMs saying, I've been insulted, against T&Cs infract x etc....

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Old 08 January 2009, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
*inserts voice in Iwan's head*

They are all against you, Iwan; you must destroy them all!

Your post was deleted by another member of the webteam, mate. We are anxious that this doesn't become an 'x is a tosser, no, y is a tosser for endorsing their humour thread'. Otherwise, in a few hours we'll likely have an array of RTMs saying, I've been insulted, against T&Cs infract x etc....
Argh the voices are back.

Yeah that's cool, understood. The web team weren't to know but Matt is a mate, and he knows I was just jesting. But I understand the concerns.

Cheers.
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Hey Iwan,

I've been accused of not permitting bad taste jokes in the past (falsely I might add - I even started a thread on it once). I personally have a very broad sense of humour and like some of the "bad taste" stuff.

BUT when you make these kind of cracks you put yourself on a fine line, and in this instance the community obviously thought Matt had crossed the line. The webteam agreed.

There is no need for people to turn nasty on him, though: one bad taste joke that is poorly judged for an given audience doesn't make mean a person is a "tosser". Equally, there is no need for people to take it to heart that some people were offended. It takes all sorts to make the world go around.

We try and make a judgment that reflects the feeling of the community and not our own personal taste as far as possible.

I've seen Matt post on several occasions and he seems a nice guy; I'm sure he did not intend to upset people.

Cheers for the understanding.
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