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Old 23 January 2008, 02:28 PM
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BBC NEWS | England | Bristol | Hotel leap man cleared of murder

Oh my god... I havent had a chance to get my head around this yet but my instinct is disgust!
Old 23 January 2008, 02:35 PM
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A coward of a man
Old 23 January 2008, 03:06 PM
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considering he was clearly a bit nuts the "jumping off" in a fit of rage i can see......but to grab your kids on the way?
Old 23 January 2008, 03:06 PM
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A troubled man more like.

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Old 23 January 2008, 03:12 PM
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This just means it wasnt premeditated, doesnt mean he didnt actually hill the kid... I assume hes getting done for manslaughter?
Old 23 January 2008, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by [Davey]
This just means it wasnt premeditated, doesnt mean he didnt actually hill the kid... I assume hes getting done for manslaughter?
The article says he isnt being "done" for murder or manslaughter... Just 3 years mental care (which I am sure they can extend if he is a threat to society) or these days perhaps not...
Old 23 January 2008, 03:30 PM
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Don't know what help him being in Prison would be. Sectioned for life might be more appropriate.
Old 23 January 2008, 05:17 PM
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I'm sorry he is responsible for his sons death so in my eyes he murdered him, I hope the barsteward dies a very slow a painful death
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Old 23 January 2008, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoob99
I'm sorry he is responsible for his sons death so in my eyes he murdered him,
yes - but thats not the law is it. There are lots of ways someone is responsible for a death but only a few of them are deemed murder...this wasnt one of them.
Old 23 January 2008, 05:31 PM
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I wonder what his missus actually said to spark him off into jumping off a balcony.


There have been cases before where men have commited suicide and killed thier kids after bitter threats of losing their kid's custody and excessive divorce settlemets.

Just a thought.....
Old 23 January 2008, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
I wonder what his missus actually said to spark him off into jumping off a balcony.
I have to say that crossed my mind too, given some of the other info suggesting him seemingly being stable? Someone has to push to get a man to flip like that, and even then only 0.00001% will?

Wonder if we have a resident Scooby Shrink? Temporary insanity? Does he need drugs? I really dont know!

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Old 23 January 2008, 06:15 PM
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Folk on SN seem to completely deny the existence of mental illness. I think this guy's two brothers also killed themselves.

To say that he should die a slow and painful death doesn't reallly take humanity forward very far does it?

But may be he was just drunk and selfish when he jumped with his kids. But I rather doubt that and suspect the sentence was correct in the circumstances. In fact it rather blew a hole in my stereotypical view of the Greek justice system. A terrible tragedy nonetheless. dl

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Old 23 January 2008, 06:29 PM
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At least the little gurl survived and has made a recovery.

Only justice is the man will have to live with what he did.

Shame he did not take his own life and not theat of a child - i do not suppose mental illnes gives much of a choice in these situations - assuming it was mental illness.

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Old 23 January 2008, 06:31 PM
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The other issue is well, let's be honest, what possible sentence could a court of law give compared to having to live with killing your own child?

Tragic either way
Old 23 January 2008, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
Folk on SN seem to completely deny the existence of mental illness. I think this guy's two brothers also killed themselves.

To say that he should die a slow and painful death doesn't reallly take humanity forward very far does it?

But may be he was just drunk and selfish when he jumped with his kids. But I rather doubt that and suspect the sentence was correct in the circumstances. In fact it rather blew a hole in my stereotypical view of the Greek justice system. A terrible tragedy nonetheless. dl
Good post. Be great to get some proper facts and expert opinion on this as it is totally beyond my comprehension. D
Old 23 January 2008, 09:00 PM
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He had to be mentally unbalanced to do such an act. Whilst it's obviously a horrific thing to have happened for his wife and the families concerned (can you imagine what his parents/siblings must have been going through too?) he will also have to live with it for the rest of his days and I can't imagine his conscience will ever give him peace.
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An absolute tragedy, not only for his remaining family but for himself too-for the rest of his life.

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Old 24 January 2008, 12:49 PM
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I wonder if his daughter will ever forgive him when she grows up? Awful thought. dl
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