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Old 13 July 2005, 10:12 PM
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Exclamation Why did the bombers kill themselves as well?

Why didnt the terrorists in London just put the bomb under a seat,set the timer and get off at the next stop like they did in Madrid.There was no need to kill themselves as well.

Just something we were discussing at work today.
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Old 13 July 2005, 10:17 PM
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'Cos they were retarded mongs with a fanatical, distorted view on life, the afterlife and the way we should live. F*ck 'em, I'm glad they chose to die too as our justice system knows nothing severe enough to punish the murdering scum.

I've never believed in God and the hereafter but now I hope I'm wrong and I hope they're rotting in Hell wondering what the f*ck went wrong.

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Old 13 July 2005, 10:30 PM
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cos they are fecking cowards
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Old 13 July 2005, 10:36 PM
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Exactly. If they hadn't blown themselves up they ran a (small, admitedly) risk of being banged up for life or something.
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Old 13 July 2005, 10:41 PM
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Maybe they forgot to set the timer, I always do and end up missing Top Gear.
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Old 13 July 2005, 10:56 PM
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There's no space to store a rucksack under a seat on tube trains, and any attempt to leave a bag and get off would severely compomise their chances of "success".

But the main reason they took their own lives was probably indoctrination and an unshakeable faith that they were doing the "right" thing.

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Old 13 July 2005, 10:57 PM
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13 virgins in paradise is what they expected to get, personaly virgins are over rated hope they rot in hell
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Old 13 July 2005, 10:58 PM
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Didnt the Madrid bombers escape?
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The Madrid bombers - though can't remember if it was all of them - were traced to an apartment where they blew themselves up after security forces had them surrounded.

According to a letter in the Times this week it was ID cards in Spain which helped the police home in on the gang. The mobile phone in the bomb which didn't go off was traced to the shop where it was sold, and the shop records of mobile phone sales included the identity of the bomber which had been presented at the point of sale.

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Originally Posted by paulr
Why didnt the terrorists in London just put the bomb under a seat,set the timer and get off at the next stop like they did in Madrid.There was no need to kill themselves as well.

Just something we were discussing at work today.
The message to the Western aggressors is much stronger if you show a willingness to die for what you believe in. The Terror and fear is much greater when you realise you are dealing with people that want to die to get their message across (ie it's going to be difficult to stop them).

Stop slaughtering hundreds of thousands of Muslims and the terrorists might have less cannon fodder to choose from.
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Old 14 July 2005, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by paulr
Why didnt the terrorists in London just put the bomb under a seat,set the timer and get off at the next stop like they did in Madrid.There was no need to kill themselves as well.

Just something we were discussing at work today.

just my tuppence worth, but it's because they've been indoctrinated and brainwashed, the standard MO for recruiting suicide bombers. it's a death cult and the antithesis of all western standards of life. the same reason why bouyeri has refused legal representation in his trial for the ritual murder of theo van gogh. he doesn't want to be defended; he doesn't recognise our structures. he's been manipulated.

think japanese kamikaze.

just take one young person who's perhaps socially vulnerable, isolated, angry, lonely, friendless or all of these things (hey! a teenager!), offer him the things he craves and remodel him to do your bidding. here's an analogy: in much the same way that the army can take a shiftless, difficult young man - give him security, support, comradeship and a gun - and turn him into a fit, motivated and obedient soldier in three or four months.

basically, fundamentalist terror indoctrination - whether hammas or al qaeda- preys on the losers, the weak, the gullible and the vulnerable to do its bidding. they get others to do the things that they themselves will not.

have you noticed that it appears that at least two had recently been back to pakistan for so-called religious studies? it's a disturbing common link. i wonder what really happened while they were there, who saw them, what exactly they were taught and by whom. all smells very fishy to me.

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Old 14 July 2005, 10:46 AM
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Suicide bombers are brainwashed with no will of their own and the possess twisted mind.Their crooked passion for the unjust cause is pushed to the point that they can do anything like killing themselves.But on the whole,its a psychological process to prepare the weak-minded to peform an inhuman act on his/her own life's cost.On their passion's peak,they are able to bomb themselves if required.
The ones who prepare such suicide bombers are serious psychos whos brains is stuck up their @rses and they deserve a torturous death.
Arrrrgh!it makes me so upset when I think of terrorism!
I think they bombed themselves in London to make 100% sure that the security was definitely bypassed and the job was done to satisfaction.They might have thought London is bigger nut to crack than madrid.
That might have been the part of the strategy.
******* barsturds!
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Old 14 July 2005, 11:01 AM
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Apparently they found only the head of the one on the bus and only the spine and some ribs of the one on the Edgware tube, and they think the Kings Cross guy was evaporated by the blast. What a shame they didn't suffer in agony for a while after the bombs went off...nothing like unbearable pain to make you consider your mistakes.
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Old 14 July 2005, 11:07 AM
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Sorry to be blunt and uncaring.....

But I`m quite glad they did kill themselves.........thats three less!!!!!!


(now you can all slag me off )
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Old 14 July 2005, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JoanUK300
Sorry to be blunt and uncaring.....

But I`m quite glad they did kill themselves.........thats three less!!!!!!


(now you can all slag me off )


ps.. maybe even 4!
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Old 14 July 2005, 11:08 AM
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Edcase,Yeah but the twisted and varped brains behind this operation MUST be given the most torturous death so that they realise what they have done to so many innocent people and their families.The impact of what has happened will haunt tthe families forever..........
******* psychos!
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Old 14 July 2005, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
Because its *supposed* to make them martyrs in their delusional fcuked up World.

Plus there was always the risk of someone spotting the bombs and their sick plans being foiled, the only guaranteed success was to be there in person to set them off.

it makes me laugh that they are this gullable, there inboxes must be choka with viagra, ripped pecs, randy **** housewives and credit card deals comming out of there ears...

the sad part of it is, whern they identify what or who is responsible, they wont / cant outlaw it... human rights innit!

yes if you or i were to go out and top a few people, youd be a serial killer, cought and banged up......with little regard for your rights...

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Old 14 July 2005, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GCollier
According to a letter in the Times this week it was ID cards in Spain which helped the police home in on the gang. The mobile phone in the bomb which didn't go off was traced to the shop where it was sold, and the shop records of mobile phone sales included the identity of the bomber which had been presented at the point of sale.
Gary.
Except that you don't need ID if you buy a pay as you go type of mobile from Telefonica.
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Old 14 July 2005, 01:22 PM
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Because they are bunch of inbred, low life, thick as rocks, goat sh@gging, idle, sponging, whingeing no hopers who I hope get fcuked and burned every day for eternity.

If I offend anyone then I apologise but it needed to be said
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Old 14 July 2005, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap


ps.. maybe even 4!
shame they had to take 50 civilians with their punk asses!
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Old 14 July 2005, 02:47 PM
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The Isreali's are quite adept at suicide bomber ID. They have obviously help with this one. When the detonation takes place the upper torso and feet are normally "well preserved" hence the quick ID of the bombers.

If we did catch the bomber, ie not a suicide bomber, then the British Justice System "would woundingly slap there thighs and bang them up for a while"

Notice that Arab justice is far more severe than ours and this makes us a much easier target. Let's not forget how much "time" the IRA/CIRA/OIRA did in prison, much pain that was!!!!

They were British Citizens don't forget, but we never sent all the Irish home for what they did. And the case still stand, the real extremists are the "indoctrinated few" who are sadly misguided.

To all the muslims and arabs in the UK, your British just like us. so help us find the F**kwits who help this one to happen.

End of Rant. Ta
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Old 14 July 2005, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tmo
Because they are bunch of inbred, low life, thick as rocks, goat sh@gging, idle, sponging, whingeing no hopers who I hope get fcuked and burned every day for eternity.

If I offend anyone then I apologise but it needed to be said

But as has been said was one of them not a Primary school teacher, so possibly not thick as rocks or a sponging whining no hoper??? This is the scary thing!!
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Old 14 July 2005, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Nexuas
But as has been said was one of them not a Primary school teacher, so possibly not thick as rocks or a sponging whining no hoper??? This is the scary thing!!
There's gonna be one fu*ked up classroom full of kids. How the hell are they supposed to understand something like that?
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Old 14 July 2005, 04:37 PM
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Hmmm primary school teacher .............

No i will behave myself, my anger has dissipated now ...... honest !
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Old 14 July 2005, 05:14 PM
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Saying that the bombers were/are thick or retarded or evil is a little too simplistic.
Having recently read Peter L Bergen's book Holy War Inc. I feel I understand a little bit more of this matter than I previously did.
The extremists or radicals that are willing to do this sort of thing do it for real reasons : reasons that westerners cannot comprehend but the capitalist imperialist West's invasion and occupation of Islamist countries such as Afghanistan, Saudia Arabia etc is seen as a huge issue - if these countries do not leave voluntarily then the those with extreme views see that waging violence against them is valid within their view of the Koran and therefore dying in such a fight will lead to a beautiful next life.
I think that there is a passage in the above book that mentions a journalist meeting up with a figher in Afghanistan who was literally in tears - a Russian fighter plane had flown over him and not killed him. He actually wanted to be killed as the Russians had invaded his land, he was fighting these invaders and as this was a holy war he wanted to be killed in the conflict as to do so would ensure his ascent to a particularly pleasant heaven.
Since the head of our country gets elected by us then the British presence in Muslim countries has been endorsed by the British people, same goes for the USA and Bush and our support for the USA only increased our validity as targets.
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Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon

To all the muslims and arabs in the UK, your British just like us. so help us find the F**kwits who help this one to happen.

End of Rant. Ta

of course and u all christians and whites r british like us too so help us find all the chavs, drug dealers and ****'s the national front too
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its because the use by date had been alterd on the box and no **** tipped them off unlike when they alter the date on **** in the shop they more than likely own
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Old 14 July 2005, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
Why didnt the terrorists in London just put the bomb under a seat,set the timer and get off at the next stop like they did in Madrid.There was no need to kill themselves as well.

Just something we were discussing at work today.

Maybe it's because they werent the bombers, and the government are lying through their teeth to push trhough some rather unpopular laws.....

Just a thought...that hasnt been outlawed ....yet....
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