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Old 27 April 2005, 01:19 PM
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Lightbulb Self defence....what can you LEGALLY carry in your car?

Obviously you can carry tools like wheel braces,or stuff like cricket bats,but what about sprays or stuff like that in your glovebox?

Is it all off limits?
Old 27 April 2005, 01:22 PM
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Magnum Handgun would be ok
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if you have the necessary paperwork, that is

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Old 27 April 2005, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr

Obviously you can carry tools like wheel braces,or stuff like cricket bats,but what about sprays or stuff like that in your glovebox?

Is it all off limits?

something they're pretty hot on in this country. even things like cricket bats and golf clubs they suspect. mate used to have a golf club in his till he got a verbal warning. suppose one club does look a bit suspect though..

didnt think any 'sprays' were legal here full stop???
Old 27 April 2005, 01:57 PM
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Maglite - not one of those mini sized jobbies either
Old 27 April 2005, 02:09 PM
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Baseball bat.
With a baseball of course.
"Where were you going when you were carjacked?"
"Baseball practice"
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Old 27 April 2005, 02:10 PM
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Golf clubs?
Old 27 April 2005, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
Obviously you can carry tools like wheel braces,or stuff like cricket bats,but what about sprays or stuff like that in your glovebox?

Is it all off limits?
A face full of de-icer will make most people think twice. Jizer, spray paint and other car related things are not the sort of thing you want in your face either
Old 27 April 2005, 02:15 PM
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Cricket bats could be a problem if you have no reason to have one with you at the time. Get caught with one in December and it would be no good pretending you had a game earlier in the day.

I keep a fairly substantial Maglite in the car. This should be fairly easy to justify, emergency use incase of breakdown, reading maps etc.

A can of WD-40, de-icer spray etc could reasonably be expected to be kept in a car. Some of the more acidic wheel cleaners would make an effective weapon, best to keep some other cleaning stuff in the car too though.
Old 27 April 2005, 02:19 PM
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Don't the police recommend the Maglite's?

Swiss Army knife?
Old 27 April 2005, 02:20 PM
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for the ladies:

Hairspray & Lighter - makes for quite an effective blowtorch - not much force needed to apply

What about the wheel lock? (long steel bar jobbie)
Old 27 April 2005, 02:22 PM
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About the best you can do in the UK spray wise

http://www.c-p-p.co.uk/product/asp/P...20/af/page.htm

As I live in a civilised country I'm allowed to keep this in the car and use it when necessary.

http://www.yoursecurity.us/pepper.htm

although I don't use that brand I can confirm that if you spray it in the face of an attacker they suddenly have a change of heart and decide that screaming in agony is a better plan instead.
Old 27 April 2005, 02:28 PM
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Buy a can of cheap car spray of a similar colour to the car. Make sure the little git gets a good colouring especially in his hair, ears and face.

If someone gets sprayed, it will be good identification for them later
Old 27 April 2005, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Buy a can of cheap car spray of a similar colour to the car. Make sure the little git gets a good colouring especially in his hair, ears and face.

If someone gets sprayed, it will be good identification for them later
That idea I salute

and make sure you get it in his eyes so the git has to go to hospital to get it out, make the police's job a bit easier catching the scote...
Old 27 April 2005, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BlkKnight
Hairspray & Lighter - makes for quite an effective blowtorch - not much force needed to apply
Put both hands on the wheel and look at the traffic lights. Spray and lighter in glovebox, or door pocket.

I'll give you precisely two seconds to get your blowtorch going before my hands are round your throat. And I bet your life you won't manage it.

Can of spray paint or de-icer with the lid off gets my vote.
Old 27 April 2005, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by D70
As I live in a civilised country I'm allowed to keep this in the car and use it when necessary.

http://www.yoursecurity.us/pepper.htm
So civilised the government feel you might need to carry that kind of thing around with you...
Old 27 April 2005, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by markr1963
Maglite - not one of those mini sized jobbies either
snap...just in case i need to inspect the engine in the dark
Old 27 April 2005, 03:45 PM
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I used to have one of those cartoon stylee spanners in the car. An old Whitworth spanner with an AF of about 1.5 inches and about 1/4 of an inch thick. It weighed a ton and I figured it was ok to have in the doorpocket as it was a tool. Plod pointed out to me that very few Japanese cars have either Whitworth bolts or any bolts that big for that matter.

Now I have a plastic 500ml coke bottle filled to the brim with water. I guarantee you don't want to get that round the face and it's handy for a refreshing drink after tw@tting the ******.
Old 27 April 2005, 04:09 PM
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I have one of those car window smashing things, which is like a small (but heavy)hammer about 6 -7 " long with a spike on either end and a cutting blade (for the seat belt half way down the shaft. nice safety tool that fits just nice into the door pocket
Old 27 April 2005, 04:12 PM
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Oh yeah, a thought on storage - there are times when someone opens the driver's door to get to you. Keeping your weapon (oo-er) in the door pocket will then turn out to be a fundamental mistake.



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Old 27 April 2005, 04:19 PM
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I'd suggest a 3, 4 or 6 cell Maglite, as said, handy when it's dark

I'm sure a pair of jump leads could be swung and used to defend yourself, or they'd make a fine garotte I guess.

Laser pointers might be handy, a quick shine in the eyes might do something.

The car itself is a pretty handy weapon too lol
Old 27 April 2005, 04:29 PM
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use a can of spary paint on a car jacker and you will end up with a screw driver stuck in your skull.........unless you are all hoping to get jacked by the most pathetic baddie there is......i'd rethink the DIY commando stuff!
Old 27 April 2005, 04:37 PM
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These sprays/de-icer/paint etc though,if they caused permanent damage to someones eyesight,couldnt they sue?
Old 27 April 2005, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
use a can of spary paint on a car jacker and you will end up with a screw driver stuck in your skull.........unless you are all hoping to get jacked by the most pathetic baddie there is......i'd rethink the DIY commando stuff!
I'm with Tiggs - See anyone dodgy - run the ******* over before they get your car
Old 27 April 2005, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
These sprays/de-icer/paint etc though,if they caused permanent damage to someones eyesight,couldnt they sue?
They'd never pick you out in a lineup though would they
Old 27 April 2005, 05:13 PM
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Old 27 April 2005, 05:29 PM
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Pepper spray sounds like a good idea. Depends what you want to protect against. If it's road rage and confrontations then you'll have an idea something's up already and can prepare for it.

Unfortunately, as others have pointed out, thieves aren't in the business of standing around shouting, they'll most likely clobber the sh*t out of you with no warning (preferably from behind) and then drive off with the car. This is where you need something akin to the permanent dyes they use for money bags/cases etc.

I don't mind having a bright orange car interior if I get to laugh at a bright orange ****** or two.

J.
Old 27 April 2005, 05:34 PM
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I used to have a lightweight aluminium baseball bat in the car down the side of the drivers door in case things happened. That was a good tool, until the car got broken into and they nicked that amongst other things. been meaning to get a new one
Old 27 April 2005, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by messiah
Swiss Army knife?
Don't risk it. I know of a guy whose car was stopped at a roadblock just after the Docklands bomb. They found a Swiss Army penknife in the passenger footwell. He was done for an offensive weapon in a public place. Apparently, the inside of your car is an public place.

Although some sort of oil/paint spray is a good idea (one I would be willing to try), you may have to convince the courts that having it in the front of the car, and not the boot, was in some way justified. De-icer would probably be fine, even in summer, as long as something like a window scraper is also there to prove you don't clear out your winter kit in the summer etc.

One of those emergency window breaking hammers (complete with bracket to keep it near the driver) would be an idea. Totally justified being in reach of the driver and would ruin someones day if they are wacked with it 74 times (or thereabouts).
Old 27 April 2005, 06:10 PM
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If you have a car with newish alarms on them they auto lock the doors as after the Engine is started so the only way for the ****** to get in is an open window

soon as an arm or head comes in hit the window button select first gear dump the clutch at 4k and take em for a ride

its gonna hurt em
Old 27 April 2005, 06:34 PM
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I have one of those fairly small fire extinguishers in the wee space between my seat and the inner sill trim. Handy for putting out small fires, and I wouldnt want it discharged in my face at point-blank range, or clubbed over my head.


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