I can't get used to this. May have to do one
05 February 2004, 11:39 PM
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I can't get used to this. May have to do one
This new format just isn't doing it for me. And, it seems much quieter since the change.
I'm still reserving judgement but think I'll be back less and less 'til never.
It all seems more narrow and less user-friendly to me. Sad, because this was the place I came to for a laugh, chat, argument, knowledge, etc.
Ah well, anyone got any good, alternative sites?
I'm still reserving judgement but think I'll be back less and less 'til never.
It all seems more narrow and less user-friendly to me. Sad, because this was the place I came to for a laugh, chat, argument, knowledge, etc.
Ah well, anyone got any good, alternative sites?
05 February 2004, 11:46 PM
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I was wondering if everyone had put me on their "ignore" list!
=- bunch of fcukin dinosaurs IMHO.where is it by the way, I need to add you to it.
05 February 2004, 11:51 PM
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It is definately quieter especially Tech' forums (...fora??)
Anyway, seems to be geared up more as a chat room than a useful place for car guru's to trade info.
Too much emphasis on the Community whatever that actually is and not enough on the Scooby's.
One non-scooby related for general chit-chat and having a wind up was enough IMHO.
You gotta look too hard for the car stuff - it should be the overwhelming flavour of the site.
I actually feel a bit of an internet geek coming on here now, not a car enthusiast looking for llike minded individuals get advice from, give tips to and have a friendly pi55 ripping session with.
The old days with Stef, Harj etc were the best even though I was just a lurker then.
Anyway, seems to be geared up more as a chat room than a useful place for car guru's to trade info.
Too much emphasis on the Community whatever that actually is and not enough on the Scooby's.
One non-scooby related for general chit-chat and having a wind up was enough IMHO.
You gotta look too hard for the car stuff - it should be the overwhelming flavour of the site.
I actually feel a bit of an internet geek coming on here now, not a car enthusiast looking for llike minded individuals get advice from, give tips to and have a friendly pi55 ripping session with.
The old days with Stef, Harj etc were the best even though I was just a lurker then.
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06 February 2004, 02:40 AM
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I had to login again when the format changed and I wanted to post. I think you'll find that many have forgotten their password and can't be arsed posting when they see the system ask for it and can't remember.
I guess all the previous cookies don't work.
I guess all the previous cookies don't work.
06 February 2004, 04:08 AM
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fatherpierre, its a bit of a viscious circle though isnt it - if people who have been on here a fair while dont give things a chance to settle down then the site will be doomed.
Dont give up on SNet just because things have changed - its evolving at the moment and is a bit all over the place. Give it some time to settle down - for the For Sale debacle to sort itself out, for the site to be tweaked cosmetically, to see if things pick up over the next week or so etc...
Of course, once its been given a chance, if it still doesnt satisfy then thats fair enough - I just feel that everyone who has said negative stuff and left or threatened to has been a bit hasty - the site hasnt become terrible just because it looks a bit different and one area of the forums has changed structure (or rather is changing - it is ongoing). Surely people are more interested in the content and the banter than whether their smileys are yellow or grey, or whatever?
I dont know much about the techy stuff to do with it, but this software seems much more powerful and gives a lot more options. Things will be tweaked and redesigned over time until the majority are happy.
Dont give up on SNet just because things have changed - its evolving at the moment and is a bit all over the place. Give it some time to settle down - for the For Sale debacle to sort itself out, for the site to be tweaked cosmetically, to see if things pick up over the next week or so etc...
Of course, once its been given a chance, if it still doesnt satisfy then thats fair enough - I just feel that everyone who has said negative stuff and left or threatened to has been a bit hasty - the site hasnt become terrible just because it looks a bit different and one area of the forums has changed structure (or rather is changing - it is ongoing). Surely people are more interested in the content and the banter than whether their smileys are yellow or grey, or whatever?
I dont know much about the techy stuff to do with it, but this software seems much more powerful and gives a lot more options. Things will be tweaked and redesigned over time until the majority are happy.
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06 February 2004, 07:02 AM
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Guys have a look on the polls area on the General page! Simon is trying to incorporate an option so we can set our view to that similar of SN2 for those that want the old look and feel back!
I felt the same as you over this but Simon is more than aware a lot of us old whinge bags dont like the new look and is trying his best to please everyone by the sounds of it, and to me that deserves respect (he would be perfectly in his right to tell us to get lost if we dont like it) and to give him and Shaun time to see if they can provide the option to make this skinable so we can have SN2 back
Get yourselves voting on those polls so you can vote for whats the most important change to you that is needed! If you dont voice your opinions on the polls then you can't complain about lack of changes that suit you.
I felt the same as you over this but Simon is more than aware a lot of us old whinge bags dont like the new look and is trying his best to please everyone by the sounds of it, and to me that deserves respect (he would be perfectly in his right to tell us to get lost if we dont like it) and to give him and Shaun time to see if they can provide the option to make this skinable so we can have SN2 back
Get yourselves voting on those polls so you can vote for whats the most important change to you that is needed! If you dont voice your opinions on the polls then you can't complain about lack of changes that suit you.
06 February 2004, 07:07 AM
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Will a copy of the old look bring back all the users who don't seem to bother anymore?
The new look is an improvement for sure but something has been lost during the transition.
The new look is an improvement for sure but something has been lost during the transition.
06 February 2004, 07:14 AM
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It's human nature to resist change. I, for one, wholeheartedly embrace it. Although I did find it a little bit of a learning curve initially, it's SO much more powerful now. Things like colour etc are probably still be sorted out - remember what gargantuan task has been undertaken to transfer everything over to the new format Webmaster(s) have worked really hard to drag ScoobyNet into the modern age (dragging its few reluctant members kicking and screaming with it, I might add).
If people don't like the new format, then it's their choice to stay or leave.
But the key thing here is that it's not the look of the BBS that makes ScoobyNet so good - it's the members and their input
without this, there would be no ScoobyNet
Alot of the people who have posted negative comments here, have contributed so much to the BBS over the years - it would be a shame to lose that wealth of knowledge over something as petty as "I don't like the new layout"
Give it a chance - IMHO it is actually very good
Just my 2p FWIW
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Webmaster(s) have worked really hard to drag ScoobyNet into the modern age (dragging its few reluctant members kicking and screaming with it, I might add).If people don't like the new format, then it's their choice to stay or leave.
But the key thing here is that it's not the look of the BBS that makes ScoobyNet so good - it's the members and their input
without this, there would be no ScoobyNet
Alot of the people who have posted negative comments here, have contributed so much to the BBS over the years - it would be a shame to lose that wealth of knowledge over something as petty as "I don't like the new layout"
Give it a chance - IMHO it is actually very good
Just my 2p FWIW
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06 February 2004, 09:43 AM
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and were the **** is the search section???? one of the best things for me bout scoobnet was the search bit, i could read posts 2 years old!! was fookin awesome
06 February 2004, 09:50 AM
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Don't any of you read the general section and check to see whats being said? It only takes a little bit of reading to see that all your complaints are already in hand and being dealt with. Come on ffs have a read about before going where is the search section for example when on the first day of the change it was made clear that this will return but give Simon and Shaun a couple of weeks to get everything up and running.
I was one of the first to complain about the new look, but having kept an eye on the general section and whats being said I now know that the look of SN is one of the issues being dealt with so I will be patient and let them deal with everything they have to do and put up with the new colour scheme etc until the option of changing it becomes available. Have a read about guys and then post your feeling up in the relevant section if its not already been covered instead of posting here when your issues are in fact already in hand.
I was one of the first to complain about the new look, but having kept an eye on the general section and whats being said I now know that the look of SN is one of the issues being dealt with so I will be patient and let them deal with everything they have to do and put up with the new colour scheme etc until the option of changing it becomes available. Have a read about guys and then post your feeling up in the relevant section if its not already been covered instead of posting here when your issues are in fact already in hand.
06 February 2004, 10:08 AM
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I feel the same, I preferred the old Scoobynet, I have also been looking for alternative forums !
Is it still poss to add threads to favorites, coz at the mo iv been reduced to adding them to my favs on internet explorer, gets annoying.
Where did my old favs I was tracking go to ?
If it aint broke........
Is it still poss to add threads to favorites, coz at the mo iv been reduced to adding them to my favs on internet explorer, gets annoying.
Where did my old favs I was tracking go to ?
If it aint broke........
06 February 2004, 10:10 AM
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I love it, no complaints from me. The old system was too basic, but this is now much better.
Scoobynetters seem to be completely averse to change, but change is a good thing.
Try reading "Who moved my cheese". Will alter your opinion on change for good!!
Scoobynetters seem to be completely averse to change, but change is a good thing.
Try reading "Who moved my cheese". Will alter your opinion on change for good!!
06 February 2004, 12:32 PM
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Best case of fixing something that weren't broke I have ever come across. It's all too fragmented and broken up and generally ruined.
Feels like just A. N. Other BBS now. Oh, well. It was fun while it lasted. Time to move on I guess.
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Feels like just A. N. Other BBS now. Oh, well. It was fun while it lasted. Time to move on I guess.
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06 February 2004, 12:35 PM
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I think we should stick with it (a little longer, anyway).
It's just lost its old feel. It seems all over the place, and there aren't enough threads on the front page of each section, so threads that would have attracted a decent debate over a period of time just fall off the page and die.
It's just lost its old feel. It seems all over the place, and there aren't enough threads on the front page of each section, so threads that would have attracted a decent debate over a period of time just fall off the page and die.
06 February 2004, 12:35 PM
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Dream Weaver - you *would* say that though, wouldn't you?! Web designers love all these fancy gizmos.
For the majority of us, we want a straightforward, easy-to-navigate, no-nonsense car-related bbs. I think this has been overlooked and is now aimed at a different audience to the one it had.
For the majority of us, we want a straightforward, easy-to-navigate, no-nonsense car-related bbs. I think this has been overlooked and is now aimed at a different audience to the one it had.
06 February 2004, 12:40 PM
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ALi-B's contrast settings to stop me getting eyestrain (in a room with day light) to use scoobynet
Contrast: 36%
Brightness: 28%
Before it was double this!!
- luckily I don't need the computer for anything esle at the moment Just as well as I would'nt be able to see anything unless I set my desktop theme and acessibility options to high contrast for impaired eyesight 
Perhaps I should eat more carrots and take more nurofen?
Contrast: 36%
Brightness: 28%
Before it was double this!!
- luckily I don't need the computer for anything esle at the moment
Just as well as I would'nt be able to see anything unless I set my desktop theme and acessibility options to high contrast for impaired eyesight Perhaps I should eat more carrots and take more nurofen?
06 February 2004, 12:44 PM
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UB,
Totally agree, yes things do need to change but adding more features does not always mean things are going to be better. Its just way too cluttered now in terms of links and features. O and just found when you navigate away from the reply to thread page and come back you lose your reply!!, old SN would keep it, I found it useful for nipping back to the thread to make sure I wasn't talking complete bollox when replying.
O and personally I think phpBB is way better than vBulletin!
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Totally agree, yes things do need to change but adding more features does not always mean things are going to be better. Its just way too cluttered now in terms of links and features. O and just found when you navigate away from the reply to thread page and come back you lose your reply!!, old SN would keep it, I found it useful for nipping back to the thread to make sure I wasn't talking complete bollox when replying.
O and personally I think phpBB is way better than vBulletin!
Gary
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