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Old 23 January 2004, 12:30 AM
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Anybody know the symptoms or knew someone that suffered from depression?
Old 23 January 2004, 12:45 AM
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I am a regular mate

The reason i wanted to stay anonymous is that if i indeed suffer from depression, i want to try and get through it on my own without worrying friends i have on this board.

Something happened to me last year and in some ways, it made me lost faith in people, made me disconnected from everyone and everything.

I am overwhelmed by a feeling of emptiness. Nothing really attracts my attention. When I'm with my friends, i may laugh/take part in our conversations but i really can't feel anything, can't feel intrigued. This applies to everything i do. I only feel comfortable when i'm on my own. Wherever I might be, i just can't wait to go home and stay there(living on my own).
Old 23 January 2004, 12:48 AM
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That's what friends are for mate, just tell them

Edited cos I can't spell


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Old 23 January 2004, 12:50 AM
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strangest thing is, that i never used to be like that. I always was a VERY outgoing person, up for a laugh/joke/farce, very impulsive, lively. I always looked for a reason not to stay at home.
Old 23 January 2004, 01:03 AM
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x, take it easy, one day at a time,
i guess you are young.

you get one life, enjoy it as best you can...

sorry i cant offer any advice, just good intentions

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Old 23 January 2004, 01:55 AM
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X. Sounds familiar. As I described it to my GP, I had nothing to worry about, good job, marriage, great kids. Ticked all the boxes.

So why did I feel **** all the time? Lacked confidence? Couldn't se much point in getting out of bed for anything. Slunk away from the limelight. Liked to sleep. Avoided company. Had panic attacks and some very dark thoughts now and again. It built up over a couple of years before people noticed anything amiss. I could have shrugged it off, maybe not for long, but spoke to my boss who said he was not surprised and gave me two simple choices: walk out now and get some serious treatment for as long as I liked (full pay), or wait a couple of weeks to clear things up, then leave. I left after about a week, and signed up with a local phycho who seemed to have more problems than I did. We didn't click. My GP recommened another guy in Northamption and I've been seeeing him for about four years now, very sccessfully. I'm not the out-going, super-confident super-succesful man I was, but it's coming back. Getting a new Impreza at the same time I left work for about five months proved massively theaputic.I joined ScoobyNet, did track days and a few simple mods, and generally tried to reconsruct my life and lifestyle.

In my case there was no trigger that I am aware of, other than increasing presure a work. But that was nothing new. My best quess was that it was inherited, and this is still the most likely itentifiable cause.

Go to your GP who will recommend a specialist. Private heath care usually covers this. You'll get a lengthy but painless interview of an hour or two during which a qualified shrink should be able to tell you what's generally wrong, if it's temporary or longer-seated, and what the treatment options are. They work, but you've got to work with them and the first few week made me very sick, but I got over it. Then you start to get better. It's an imperceptible proces but when you see a close friend yov've not met for two or three weeks and they say "hey, you look well" you will get a real buzz.

Get treament, be honest, stick to it, take regular checks, don't be ashamed (easier for some than others) and always remember that, if you have got depession and it runs unchecked, you an your family can end up in a very serious mess.

Go to your GP. I took my wife along who helped fill in some gaps and gave a different persepctive but I think that's unusual.

Whatever, book that appointment NOW.

Good luck. You WILL get better. Much better.

Richard.

[Edited by Hoppy - 1/23/2004 2:06:06 AM]
Old 23 January 2004, 07:56 AM
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I have lived with a manic depressive for 20+ years.
If I can help at all, drop me a mail.

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Old 23 January 2004, 10:28 AM
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Richard
Very brave of you to admit that in graphic detail in public, but that's part of dealing with it, of course

I had the worst year of my life last year with Carolyn dying, thank God I didn't suffer from depression on top.

The human body and mind have a great capacity to heal, and things do get better with time, anyone should seek professional help if it aids the process
Old 23 January 2004, 10:41 AM
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Good advice from Hoppy

Suffered clinical depression, agarophobia and panic attacks for around 15 years now mate (although alot better now...still have the occasional bout ) .... but it's **** all to be ashamed or embarassed about and as for worrying your mates.... that one's up to you but IMHO it helps you recover to have it all out in the open

It can happen to any one of us so don't feel ashamed about it

It WILL get better with time and the correct help... it's like a big cloud that will lift one day

Best of luck to you
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Old 23 January 2004, 11:01 AM
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If you want to email me please do. I have no issues with discussing this sort of stuff. Whatever you do though, do not bottle stuff up and resist your emotions, its the worst thing you can do. Find someone who you can let everything out on.
Bravo2zero

Brilliant advice mate my only point would be to accept that not everyone can do this initially and it's only because we've been through this illness that it's seems so easy and helpful to talk about it... can be pretty difficult for someone new to the game and hence why psychologists/counsellors/cognitive therapists are trained to get you to open up when at your first appointment....

Great advice though and best wishes

PS Only posted this in case X feels that he or she feels that talking about this is a bit daunting and embarassing. I'm just trying to remember what I first felt like when diagnosed
Old 23 January 2004, 11:02 AM
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I have first hand experience of living with someone who is manic depressive - 6+ years. You can also mail me if you like. Its hard but it can be overcome

Best thing is to get professional help / advice.
Old 23 January 2004, 11:19 AM
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Spot on - same with bereavement - you have to try and make yourself accept the situation, and force yourself to talk about it - only then can you move forwards.
Old 23 January 2004, 11:23 AM
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Google "depression" - lots of good info.
Old 23 January 2004, 11:35 AM
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X, you have made the first step to getting back on track by asking for advice/help. Get in touch with the many people who have replied to your post and who have suffered similar feelings. There advice could well be more helpfull than you could ever imagine.
I would also suggest seeing your GP, generally they are very understanding.
I felt extremly silly when i saw my GP about how i was feeling as i couldnt really put my finger on a problem. They put me at ease and did'nt tell me i was being stupid, just helped me through my issues.

With the help of your friends and GP i hope you can get back on track.




Old 23 January 2004, 11:43 AM
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It can be brought on by something as simple as a chemical imbalance in your brain. Doesn't need to be after any particular unhappy event or stress from work.

One of my m8's suffered from it and there's nothing to be ashamed about; not nowadays. If you have good m8's they'll understand and help you through any problems regardless.

It's more common than you would think.

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Old 23 January 2004, 11:53 AM
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As you can see, there is no right way to deal with depression. There is however, a wrong way - years ago my father died. As I was now the "man of the house" I decided I had to be really strong for my mum and sister. I bottled everything up and put a brave face on things. Fine for a while. Then about a year later I realized I had serious problems, ended up on anti-depressants for ages, then had dreadful withdrawal symptoms when I tried to come off them.
Then 4 years ago my wife died, very suddenly. This time I did things a bit differently and opened up completely to some very good friends. I was fortunate that these friends stood by me and listened to all sorts of cr#p which they shouldn't have to deal with. They also told me very bluntly when I was feeling sorry for myself and being stupid. 4 years down the line I have got control of the depression and have moved on.
That was a rather long-winded way of saying that you should try to open up to a friend. Professionals are all well and good, but it is your friends who really know you and care for you. It is not easy trusting someone enough to bare your soul but talking is the way to deal with this, as evidenced by the replies to this thread.
I wish you all the best.

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Old 23 January 2004, 11:54 AM
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i went back to work part time last week after 5 months off for stress /depression.

still on thge tablets though and will be keeping a regularish appt with the doc for a while.

mine started due to a relationship breakup and pressures of work (there were several people who took time off due to work pressures and many are still unhappy)

finally got to much for me after many months and i went to my gp.....months after people kept telling me i should !

its funny but when u start talking to people about it its amazing how many people have gone through it and taken time off work etc.

as others have said, drop me a mail f u want.

deffo talk to your gp / counsellor.

friends can be good as well...i did not wanna talk about it to my family....just did not feel comfortable to me.

at the end of the day its you that has to start to see things / life / work etc etc differently in order to progress past / through the way you're feeling now.

mite take a week / month / 6 months.

i expected a month off to sort my head out and then back to work. did not happen that quick though....had to happen on my own internal timescales not my hoped for timescale.
Old 23 January 2004, 12:33 PM
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X: as you can see, you're NOT alone. In fact a surprising number of people suffer from depression........the real problem for most is that they see it as weakness, and so don't do anything about it, just suffer in silence, and wait for it to go away.

WRONG: you MUST do something.....anything that is suggested on here is good advice, but my first advice would be your GP, and don't let them fob you off with a few sleeping pills.

Now you've taken the plunge, you'll start to get better......if you take our advice. Take it one day at a time, and it WILL pass.

There are LOADS of reasons that depression starts, but NONE of them are weakness!!! Almost all are chemical imbalances in the brain, triggered by all sorts of things......it IS an illness, just a difficult one to treat.

Keep smiling. S/N is here for you.

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Old 23 January 2004, 01:05 PM
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Didn't realise, sorry

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Another thing worth mentioning is that all of us deal with things in different ways and what works for one of us may not of course work for another - personally I went back to work 4 days after Carolyn's cremation as I was going stir crazy at home and wanted to try and get some semblance of normality back.
It was difficult facing people on the train/at work etc, but then it was difficult for them too - it was nice to see the number of people that came up to speak to me voluntarily when it would have been far easier for them to stay away

Ironically having a partner with a terminal illness and then a bereavement does not only bring out the best in other people but had a positive effect on me too - I have come out of this a stronger person, and probably a better person too Once you get out the other side of your current situation I am sure you will find the same.

Definitely talking has been one of the most beneficial things for me - it is painful to do, but better than bottling it up - eventually that stands a good chance of just ripping you apart
Old 23 January 2004, 01:11 PM
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I'd also mention that I had a great deal of support and nice messages from people on SN when it happened - not only from people I knew well, but also from people I did not know at all that took the time and trouble to contact me when they did not have to.

I would be the first the criticise the **** and negativity on SN, but it is also a surprisingly good support network in a situation like this
Old 23 January 2004, 03:10 PM
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Dave T-S, YHM.

I think it's important to distinguish between depression that is triggered by an obvious event, and depression that is not.

I have not experienced the former and have every reason to believe the advice given above.

But if you are depressed for no apparent reason, as I was, then you may have a chemical imbalance that only prefessional help and prescribed medication will resolve.

For sure the best advice, whatever the cause, is to open up to somebody. My email addy is in my profile, and open to anybody.

Cheers

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Old 23 January 2004, 03:19 PM
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Good point - it is probably obvious re the distinction between probable trigger or no obvious event to trigger depression but nevertheless worth pointing out
Old 23 January 2004, 03:27 PM
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Read through this thread with interest as someone who has been in and out of hospitals suffering with depression. All came to a head when i took an overdose and had my stomach pumped

Personally talking was useless for me. I needed medication and a lot of it.
Old 23 January 2004, 07:29 PM
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I am really amazed by the feedback people
Before your replies people, i really thought that it was something uncommon. I really feel more confident about talking to someone.Btw, I booked an appointment with my GP for this coming week.

In case I feel the need to talk to someone else too, i will be taking your offers people and let you know.

Situations like this really make SN one of the best places to be.

Thank you once again for the feedback


Old 23 January 2004, 07:38 PM
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Your Doc will probably start you on a short, low-dose of anti-depressents. My m8 was on a drug called Citalopram IIRC and started off with just one tablet (10mg) per day. I've always been wary of such drugs as I understood them to have bad side-effects and to be very addictive. He said he had no ill effects and his GP assurred him that this modern drugs aren't addictive.

Just watch if you have trouble sleeping as often sleeping tablets are prescriped along with anti-depressants and they are very addictive.

Best of luck m8 and we wish you well.

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Old 23 January 2004, 07:40 PM
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Amazing - I read this thread and now I understand an aspect of community spirit mentioned in other threads, actually is.... support and understanding.


Even though I havent met any of you, I am very proud of your support for X. Fantastic.


X - good luck my friend. Make every step a positive one.



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