Traders - don't want the work?
19 August 2018, 12:13 PM
#1
Traders - don't want the work?
I'm not sure why but it seems traders don't want or need the work these days.
They have websites showing their products and services but either are too busy to reply (even after several months) or just don't want to sell?
I've been trying to get a price for a new sectional garage door for months with no luck, filled in all the forms on several websites advertising free quotes and surveys but no-one has got back in touch? This is an expensive product (to me at least) and they must make several hundred profit, it's their only product line as i go to garage door specialists not a general builders, etc so i don't know why they aren't bothered?
A couple of weeks ago i read about more and more break ins of homes by thieves snapping off standard euro locks so decided to change to the anti bump/ snap locks, found 2 or 3 local locksmiths who specialised in them so asked for prices inc fitting - no-one has replied! WTF - even asked 1 company to come and fit them without asking for a price just do them as i want to upgrade - never turned up?
A couple of weeks ago i had a dent on my car - emailed several mobile companies local, filled in their on line forms inc photos as requested and only 1 reply which i ended up using as it seems the others didn't want the work
Does anyone else find this happening?
They have websites showing their products and services but either are too busy to reply (even after several months) or just don't want to sell?
I've been trying to get a price for a new sectional garage door for months with no luck, filled in all the forms on several websites advertising free quotes and surveys but no-one has got back in touch? This is an expensive product (to me at least) and they must make several hundred profit, it's their only product line as i go to garage door specialists not a general builders, etc so i don't know why they aren't bothered?
A couple of weeks ago i read about more and more break ins of homes by thieves snapping off standard euro locks so decided to change to the anti bump/ snap locks, found 2 or 3 local locksmiths who specialised in them so asked for prices inc fitting - no-one has replied! WTF - even asked 1 company to come and fit them without asking for a price just do them as i want to upgrade - never turned up?
A couple of weeks ago i had a dent on my car - emailed several mobile companies local, filled in their on line forms inc photos as requested and only 1 reply which i ended up using as it seems the others didn't want the work
Does anyone else find this happening?
19 August 2018, 01:09 PM
#2
Have you actually rang anyone and asked, all the information you have supplied seems to suggest you sit and fill in online forms then wait ?
Most companies get hundreds of online applications, as a small company I get around 50 a week, from people just asking silly questions,
the ones that ring me get the time, as they have taken the time to make contact with me direct, not just the online forms,
So I suggest if it was that important to you, that you pick up the phone, speak to Bob at Bobs Garages, so he knows you are genuine, see how you get on.
Most companies get hundreds of online applications, as a small company I get around 50 a week, from people just asking silly questions,
the ones that ring me get the time, as they have taken the time to make contact with me direct, not just the online forms,
So I suggest if it was that important to you, that you pick up the phone, speak to Bob at Bobs Garages, so he knows you are genuine, see how you get on.
19 August 2018, 01:26 PM
#3
Yes i called a couple of garage door suppliers who said they would arrange for someone to come out - never showed up? 1 who said they would come out to do a survey just asked me to take photos of my current setup from different angles, take measurements then send all details in - i thought that was what they would do during the survey?
I usually look online 6pm> after work, most places are closed which is why i fill in their online forms - i thought with them having an online form that meant they would look at it and get in touch?
I usually look online 6pm> after work, most places are closed which is why i fill in their online forms - i thought with them having an online form that meant they would look at it and get in touch?
19 August 2018, 01:33 PM
#4
Online contact is a waste of time for non-Internet based services. Especially with sole traders or small/medium businesses that employ no admin staff to manage that kind of stuff, as mentioned online contact forms often become mixed in with bots, spam, scam and timewasters. I know the business I work for treat online contact as something to mess with in during spare time...and we are never quiet so there is little or no spare time. I would imagine most busy some traders and small businesses are the same. Our online presence/contact mainly comes via trader referral websites.
If it's a sole trader you possibly may have more luck making online contact via Facebook. But phone or customers visiting in person will always be a priority. If they ignore phones or end up as No-shows, they are businesses you don't want to deal with anyway.
Anyway, Eurocylinders...held in by one screw, slide out old, slide in new...takes 30seconds to change a lock (less with a 'leccy screwdriver).
Just need the correct length...plenty of online guides on replacing and measuring (as the existing lock maybe the incorrect length...it's not uncommon for a lazy door fitter to fit whatever lock they have on the van...the outside facing side of the lock should not protrude more than 5mm from face of the door handle trim (it's locks that protrude that invite lock snapping).
If it's a sole trader you possibly may have more luck making online contact via Facebook. But phone or customers visiting in person will always be a priority. If they ignore phones or end up as No-shows, they are businesses you don't want to deal with anyway.
Anyway, Eurocylinders...held in by one screw, slide out old, slide in new...takes 30seconds to change a lock (less with a 'leccy screwdriver).
Just need the correct length...plenty of online guides on replacing and measuring (as the existing lock maybe the incorrect length...it's not uncommon for a lazy door fitter to fit whatever lock they have on the van...the outside facing side of the lock should not protrude more than 5mm from face of the door handle trim (it's locks that protrude that invite lock snapping).
Last edited by ALi-B; 19 August 2018 at 01:37 PM.
19 August 2018, 02:37 PM
#5
Facebook is just the worst for complete time wasters, asking pointless questions like their your best pal from childhood.
Phone calls are always the quickest way to get things done.
I've not found a way to stop spam bots so I'm considering taking the online form down from my website altogether as it's become a spam problem.
Phone calls are always the quickest way to get things done.
I've not found a way to stop spam bots so I'm considering taking the online form down from my website altogether as it's become a spam problem.
Last edited by Fishbowlhead; 19 August 2018 at 02:38 PM.
19 August 2018, 08:33 PM
#6
Where are you. I got mine from here
http://www.johnbriarsgaragedoors.co.uk/
and I love the stitching
http://www.johnbriarsgaragedoors.co.uk/
and I love the stitching
21 August 2018, 07:47 AM
#7
I'm not sure why but it seems traders don't want or need the work these days.
They have websites showing their products and services but either are too busy to reply (even after several months) or just don't want to sell?
I've been trying to get a price for a new sectional garage door for months with no luck, filled in all the forms on several websites advertising free quotes and surveys but no-one has got back in touch? This is an expensive product (to me at least) and they must make several hundred profit, it's their only product line as i go to garage door specialists not a general builders, etc so i don't know why they aren't bothered?
A couple of weeks ago i read about more and more break ins of homes by thieves snapping off standard euro locks so decided to change to the anti bump/ snap locks, found 2 or 3 local locksmiths who specialised in them so asked for prices inc fitting - no-one has replied! WTF - even asked 1 company to come and fit them without asking for a price just do them as i want to upgrade - never turned up?
A couple of weeks ago i had a dent on my car - emailed several mobile companies local, filled in their on line forms inc photos as requested and only 1 reply which i ended up using as it seems the others didn't want the work
Does anyone else find this happening?
They have websites showing their products and services but either are too busy to reply (even after several months) or just don't want to sell?
I've been trying to get a price for a new sectional garage door for months with no luck, filled in all the forms on several websites advertising free quotes and surveys but no-one has got back in touch? This is an expensive product (to me at least) and they must make several hundred profit, it's their only product line as i go to garage door specialists not a general builders, etc so i don't know why they aren't bothered?
A couple of weeks ago i read about more and more break ins of homes by thieves snapping off standard euro locks so decided to change to the anti bump/ snap locks, found 2 or 3 local locksmiths who specialised in them so asked for prices inc fitting - no-one has replied! WTF - even asked 1 company to come and fit them without asking for a price just do them as i want to upgrade - never turned up?
A couple of weeks ago i had a dent on my car - emailed several mobile companies local, filled in their on line forms inc photos as requested and only 1 reply which i ended up using as it seems the others didn't want the work
Does anyone else find this happening?
If you're only looking to tidy it up, consider covering it.
This is what I currently have - certainly beats looking at a the old door
https://www.style-your-garage.com/en...ge-poster.html
Last edited by urban; 21 August 2018 at 07:48 AM.
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21 August 2018, 09:12 AM
#8
Scooby Senior
Its a classic case of supply and demand. If there are more people needing the trade than there are tradesmen, then they simply can't handle the amount of work. They can pick and choose the jobs they do and also get away with hiking the prices. I'm afraid this is only going to get worse with Brexit as many of the EU tradesmen are now leaving the UK and creating an even bigger shortage.
21 August 2018, 12:14 PM
#11
Scooby Senior
If they offer electronic means of communication, then they should respond to it. If they were short of work, they would respond to every communication, as it is, they might answer the phone, but its still no guarantee they will come.
21 August 2018, 07:45 PM
#12
Whats wrong with the current garage door?
If you're only looking to tidy it up, consider covering it.
This is what I currently have - certainly beats looking at a the old door
https://www.style-your-garage.com/en...ge-poster.html
If you're only looking to tidy it up, consider covering it.
This is what I currently have - certainly beats looking at a the old door
https://www.style-your-garage.com/en...ge-poster.html
22 August 2018, 08:59 PM
#14
It's better to get a price via email so you have it in writing, getting a price over the phone hmm - that can change when it comes to paying or you might forget the quote unless you write it down (i can't remember several verbal quotes and who said what)
As most of us work during the day evenings is when we shop (online) so filling online forms is usually the only option
22 August 2018, 09:31 PM
#15
Just to add a little balance, not for the first time, I have turned up to price a job today and no customer, no answer on their phone,
I always take a picture incase they scream no show and just send that, with the time and date on, and say well I was there lol
I always take a picture incase they scream no show and just send that, with the time and date on, and say well I was there lol
22 August 2018, 09:46 PM
#16
23 August 2018, 12:52 PM
#19
Scooby Regular
Anyway, Eurocylinders...held in by one screw, slide out old, slide in new...takes 30seconds to change a lock (less with a 'leccy screwdriver).
Just need the correct length...plenty of online guides on replacing and measuring (as the existing lock maybe the incorrect length...it's not uncommon for a lazy door fitter to fit whatever lock they have on the van...the outside facing side of the lock should not protrude more than 5mm from face of the door handle trim (it's locks that protrude that invite lock snapping).
23 August 2018, 04:54 PM
#21
Scooby Regular
I have the Avocet ABS locks, hence my note above about recording which lock/door is associted with which card. Never thought about getting all six doors on one key, but if you lose a key it sounds expensive.
23 August 2018, 07:10 PM
#23
Gaffer had the works keys stolen, which after the insurance company played funny beggers ended up with me removing all the locks and racing off to the locksmiths for replacements with getting duplicates cut as well...all in all it cost £600 in locks and keys
Last edited by ALi-B; 23 August 2018 at 07:11 PM.
