Martin2005

As stupid as comparing a woman in a burka to a suicide bomber?

funkyrimpler

Can you imagine this being made today??
Of course not...

Now imagine it's about Islam and was making jokes about their love of stoning (lots of videos available online of women being murdered but i will spare you the links)...

Monty Python would need to be protected in the way Salman Rushdie was...

Today, person draws a cartoon, or publishes a satirical magazine and we blame them for being murdered by Islamic literalists....
Je suis Charlie??

Martin2005

Do we?

Straw man-tastic

alcazar

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Some of us do....Martin.

markjmd

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Talking about yourself there, are you?

funkyrimpler

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/afgh...nistan-1894861

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...n-2169050.html

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-ch...0PL0A320150711

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...te-mosque.html

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/509...n-chad-capital

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7820371.html

https://www.nst.com.my/world/2018/08...-shiite-mosque

https://theconversation.com/female-s...an-women-98143

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...h-east-nigeria

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-33166220

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...uicide-bombing

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/f...es-say-n825506

https://www.news24.com/World/News/af...burqa-20170804

https://www.smh.com.au/world/suicide...226-197q4.html

https://www.thestar.com/news/2008/05...ts_police.html

https://news.vice.com/article/male-s...-chads-capital

https://www.dawn.com/news/269324

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/su...15-362072.html

https://baztab.news/article/700490

https://www.businessinsider.com/ap-a...qa-2017-8?IR=T


etc etc etc

funkyrimpler

they assert that Charlie Hebdo mocked Islam opened themselves up to being attacked..Only Dave Rubin (man on left of screen) defends Charlie Hebdo..This was the first video I pulled down...

markjmd

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If you look closely, you'll notice your links all have one thing in common - they involve terrorist attacks that occurred in parts of the world where a burqa was worn by the attacker so that they would blend in with the many other people who would also have been wearing burqas in the close vicinity.

Hint - this might work very well in Afghanistan, where it's actually quite common for people to walk around wearing burqas, but here on the streets of Britain, a terrorist would have a far better chance of blending in with other people around them if they wore jeans and a t-shirt, tracksuit bottoms, or perhaps a George from Asda suit.

funkyrimpler

This week's confirmed Islamist terror attacks:2018.08.07AfghanistanPuli Alim44Four women are laid out by Islamic sniper fire.2018.08.06NigeriaMunduri70At least one woman is among seven villagers beheaded by a pro-Sharia group.2018.08.06AfghanistanJaghatu45Four people are killed in an overnight attack by a group of fundamentalists.2018.08.06IraqYabsat90A family of nine refugees is neatly dispatched by ISIS bombers.2018.08.06AfghanistanBala Baluk46Four others are left dead after a Taliban attack at a checkpoint.2018.08.06SyriaDaraa415Islamic State explosives claim four civilians.2018.08.06IraqZor Hawi al-Busat31Three members of a family are wasted by Religion of Peace gunmen.2018.08.06AfghanistanGarmsyer27A Taliban IED goes off early, killing two family members.2018.08.05AfghanistanJalalabad34A suicide bomber goes off in a town square, eliminating three passersby.2018.08.05AfghanistanKhalazai33A suicide bomber kills three members of a NATO patrol.2018.08.05SomaliaAfgoye310Three off-duty soldiers are killed by a suicide car bomber.2018.08.05SomaliaMogadishu37Islamists set off a bomb outside a restaurant, killing three passersby.2018.08.04AfghanistanLaja Mangal40Four Afghans lose their lives to a Taliban assault.2018.08.04IraqTikrit30An ISIS bomb blast claims three lives.2018.08.04IraqZaghneya12A civilian is brought down by an al-Shabaab bomb blast.2018.08.04IraqSalahuddin30Three local cops are laid flat by Mujahid bombers.2018.08.03AfghanistanFaizabad89A brutal attack by the Islamic Emirates leaves eight dead.2018.08.03SyriaSheikh Najar140The lives of fourteen displaced people are claimed by Islamic State explosives.2018.08.03NigeriaGasarwa50Three children and two elderly adults are burned to a crisp by Boko Haram.2018.08.03AfghanistanPaktia4880Over four dozen are massacred when suicide bombers and gunmen target a Shiite mosque.2018.08.03NigeriaZanwra30Three villagers are shot to death by Miyetti Allah.2018.08.02SyriaSweida10A 19-year-old Druze minority is beheaded by the Islamic State.2018.08.02IraqShaqij40Four locals are machine-gunned by suspected ISIS.2018.08.02SyriaAleppo40Two children and a woman are among four taken out with Sunni shrapnel.2018.08.02AfghanistanPul-e-Charkhi30Three foreign workers at a food company are abducted and executed by Islam militants.2018.08.02SyriaDarat Izza10A Sunni group takes down a civilian with a well-placed IED.2018.08.02SyriaIdlib135A civilian is blown to bits by a Shahid suicide bomber.2018.08.02AfghanistanChamtal34Three people are killed during a Talbian attack on a checkpoint.2018.08.02SyriaIdlib213A woman and child are eliminated by Jihadi car bombers.2018.08.02SomaliaTogdher24A suicide bomber issues an Islamic greeting before sending two secular officials to Allah.2018.08.02YemenMahfad54An al-Qaeda group attacks a local security patrol, killing five members.2018.08.01AfghanistanBala Zherai60Woman are among a half-dozen civilians blown away by an Islamist bomb blast.2018.08.01AfghanistanGreshk40Four young children are aerated by Jihadi shrapnel.2018.08.01AfghanistanYousafkhel21A 10-year-old girl and her mother are murdered by Taliban gunmen.2018.08.01IraqTaji30Three tribesmen on their way back from a funeral are kidnapped and brutally killed.2018.08.01AfghanistanAlmar22Two Afghans are killed by the Islamic Emirates

markjmd

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Here's an idea, why not start your own thread entitled "Stuff I copied and pasted from the Internet". At least some of your comments might actually be relevant then.

funkyrimpler

Islamic terror leaderboard of confirmed atrocities:

2018: 1231 Islamic attacks in 46 countries, in which 7425 people were killed and 7884 injured.
2017: 2043 Islamic attacks in 61 countries, in which 16367 people were killed and 14360 injured.
2016: 2498 Islamic attacks in 59 countries, in which 21362 people were killed and 26730 injured.
2015: 2889 Islamic attacks in 53 countries, in which 27640 people were killed and 26169 injured.
2014: 3008 Islamic attacks in 55 countries, in which 32872 people were killed and 27529 injured.

funkyrimpler

here's an idea..why not read and research information from a variety of sources instead of proudly displaying your ignorance on the internet..At least some of your comments might actually be relevant then..

Do you dispute the facts?

markjmd

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Do I dispute the fact that this thread is entitled "Boris remarks about burkas", and not, as you seem to believe, "Is Islamic terrorism a genuine cause for concern?".

No, not at all. I found the rather large font-size at the top of the page particularly helpful in that regard. Here it is again, in case you somehow managed to overlook it up 'til now:

Boris remarks about burkas



"

funkyrimpler

Like Morocco, Gabon, Chad, Republic of Congo etc?
fI you look closely, you'll also notice that these are not 'burqa dominant' Islamic countries....over 30 countries that have banned the burqa were due to acts of terrorism...

Also other Islamic countries such as Nigeria, Libya, Israel etc are not 'burqua dominant' but have had suicide bombers...Particularly Nigeria which has a problem with Bokar Haram...

My post was a response to the remark that comparing someone in a burqa to a suicide bomber was stupid, so I provided a list refuting that...It took a few minutes..It was THAT easy..
Do you think that these stories are Islamophobic or 'fake' news, or do you think they actually happened? Do you refute the statistics regarding the acts of terrorism, murders and injuries?? If so, where is your evidence to the contrary??

I have worked in the UAE, the most tolerant Islamic nation in the Middle East, so i have first hand experience of living in an Islamic culture. I lived in a small village called Khor-Fakkan (which has now been developed)...
What is your personal experience of living in an Islamic Country?

funkyrimpler

as i suspected..you simply avoided my question because you know the answer...

Martin2005

So as if by magic 'we' turned into 'they'

oh and BTW, who are 'they'?

Ultimately I don't believe in collective punishment. You apparently do.

Martin2005

I'm not entirely sure that you've posted anything actually relevant to the UK yet.

I could be wrong, but all I keep reading is 'I don't like Muslims'

And I'd like to say once more that Boris's comments on this are just weazily opportunism. Not too extreme, just controversial enough to stir up the base. That man is a cluster-dick.

funkyrimpler

can you show me that quote?

Martin2005

Not without copying and pasting every single word you've posted on this thread.

funkyrimpler

It's all relevant to the UK because we live in a multicultural society...Things that happen in France, Russia, Pakistan, Sweden affect us, and vice versa...
When acts of terrorism happen here they affect the rest of the world....Take for instance the 'Liquid Bombers'...This has affected the amount of liquids that can be taken on flights, or Richard Reid, the 'shoe bomber'...they happened here but have affected the rest of the world...The relevance is obvious.

Martin2005

I think you might be reaching a bit too far now, but if you're saying that by the UK banning Burkas and veils wel'll solve the problem of global Islamic terror, then I'll change my mind and march with you.

funkyrimpler

just show me the quote..You're wrongly accusing me of being Islamaphobic, and I'd like you to show me the quote...Unless you're lying or deliberately mischaracterising what I've said.
You've avoided or ignored every question I've asked you and provided no evidence for any of your assertions. You seem to think that it's acceptable to make false allegations of me in the misguided belief that you are virtuous in doing so.
So, without using insults or avoidance, show me the quote, and perhaps show the contrary evidence or rebuttals to any of the points I've made or the statistics I've provided to which you disagree..

Martin2005

It would be much easier for you to just reread what youve posted.

Sad Weevil

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An0n0m0us

Here is one for starters https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...lery-raid.html

and...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...230-years.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...es-stolen.html
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...r-restrictions

just from a quick google search and no effort put into looking

Martin2005

So 3 then, mainly robbers.

We should ban stockings too

Martin2005

I say again before the usual lefty nonsense gets thrown in my direction...

I don't get Burkas, I don't understand why anyone would wear one. Pretty much how I feel about tattoos BTW.

Assuming that the woman is acting of her own free will, and that then this is absolutely no business of the state. I'll add that there are many situation in which I believe that these garments are innapropriate.

An0n0m0us

So you think that's it when I clearly said that was just from a quick google search with no effort put in to looking?

It makes me laugh when comparing a burka to a crash helmet as mentioned earlier in this thread. As a biker for 25 years I can tell everyone you cant go into shops or petrol stations without being asked to remove your crash helmet for security reasons. Try asking someone wearing a burka to remove it for the same reason.

Martin2005

Women in Burkas don't have a big reputation for holding up petrol stations though do they?

An0n0m0us

Lol so we mustn't make assumptions about women in burkas but blokes in crash helmets are fair game. I think that's called reverse discrimination.