alcazar

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What is it SUPPOSED to do?


Came back from France where they don't have it, but where the choice of soft drinks is much higher than in the UK.


So last night I called into Tossco, and was utterly appalled to find that my choice of soft drinks WITHOUT artificial sweeteners was limited to two: Orange, or Lemon San Pellegrino, and VERY expensive too. Not even going to start on what I am supposed to drink if I don't like Coke/Pepsi



But why? Surely, the decision as to whether I consume sugared drinks should be mine to make, and not taken away from me by Tossco buyers or HM Government?


They have NOT done the same with either alcohol or cigarettes, so why sugared drinks??????

dpb

High juice , 2.60 for one now

Instead 3 quid for 2 lol

dpb

High juice , 2.60 for one now

Instead 3 quid for 2 lol

andy97

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sugar is much worse than fats/salt . Good job they are taxing it. Have you seen how many fat ******* of all ages are about these days?

The Trooper 1815

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Sugar turns into fat. But religion kills more people than sugar.

BMWhere?

You still have the choice, you just have to pay more for it!

From my experience of France vs the UK, the French have far less need for the fat tax!


My (non alcoholic) drink of choice... Water! If I want some more flavour in my water, I add some low sugar cordial. If you want something fizzy, get a soda-stream. If I know I'm going to be out so long I'll need a drink, I take water with me. I pretty much never buy cans/bottles of drinks - not only does it save me a fortune, its healthier and more environmentally friendly. Once you remove sugary drinks from your diet, after a couple of months you don't even miss them anymore!


Good tip for you when flying; you can take an empty bottle through the security check and most airports have water fountains where you can fill it on the other side. In my experience the ones that don't are in countries where the tap water is safe to drink. I have one of which I rarely leave home without.

Martin2005

You know what...?


I agree with you




Won't be able to get any fizzy drink soon though if they run out of Co2

Mark10sti

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tell me about it


I have a pub and my coke has gone up £10 a case


so it means I have to put mine up 15 - 20 pence per serving


but only for full fat

Wurzel

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Suck it up buttercup, they will be taxing the over 40s for being over 40 next.


https://news.sky.com/story/the-over-...-care-11418170

wayne9t9

USA has an obesity problem so the UK follows. McDonalds, Burger king, Pizza hut, Dominoes, Pizza express etc. etc. All the American franchises that helped to make Americans obese are all here in the UK. The government tax sugar missing the goalposts again. They`ve taken down posters advertising some burger joint in the London underground but on TV I can watch cooking shows 24/7 without really trying. During the ad break an ad for B.K. shows a guy boasting about putting on eight pieces of bacon on a burger then a guy chomping down on it (in slow motion), probably around 1500 calories. Theres cheap high calorie food in abundance everywhere you look and plenty of food **** on the telly to work up an appetite, sounds like a recipe for disaster.

peter zippy reid

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Wait till you get minimum alcohol pricing based on how many units it has like scotland

RobsyUK

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BMWhere?

Whats wrong with drinking just water! The human race has survived for millennia on just water

dpb

Cos it's full chalk , well it is here - and isn't cold unless run it for 1/2 hour

RockyRoad

Has anybody noticed how even the full sugar drinks have been drastically reduced in sugar recently? Both my parents are diabetic and use sugary drinks to help control their blood sugar levels sometimes. So they now have to drink a lot more of the stuff to get the same amount of sugar, totally thrown off how they deal with it. When Lucozade reduced the sugar in their Energy drink, the NHS sent them a letter but there was no warning for this change. They only know because I thought one drink didn't taste quite the same as usual so looked on the label. Then they made sure to check others and they've pretty much all been reduced, probably been replaced with the additives some people hate in diet drinks.

Yet again, the government completely forgets that these things can genuinely impact negatively on some people.

I really don't see it making much, if any, difference to the amount of sugar most people consume. We've always known it's bad for us but still went and consumed it anyway.

alcazar

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My lad reckons aspartame is a carcinogen, and banned in several states in the USA.


So the message from HMG: don't get fat, get cancer....

dpb

Is it actually even possible to buy fruit squash without sugar or artificial sweeteners

RockyRoad

I think there's a lot of false facts about aspartame. Worth a quick read of this https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/aspartame-facts/. Even the American Cancer Society says it's fine https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer...aspartame.html.

It should be up to individuals if they wish to consume it but that choice is obviously being forced a little. I'll continue drinking anything containing aspartame without hesitation personally.

dpb

i wouldnt drink that shoite if you paid me

Mr Fuji

Sugary drinks are bad for you
Cigarettes are bad you
Alcohol is bad for you

They are all taxed, but as it's a personal choice as to what you put in your body, you have a choice whether that outweighs the financial cost of having them.

Of course, it's a bit ironic that diet drinks are also bad for you, and taste awful, so now you have a third choice, drink something purely based on price that is neither good for you or pleasant

EndaITR

no its not

The Trooper 1815

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Cigarettes and Alcohol are taxed, quite heavily. But people still choose to smoke and drink.

BMWhere?

use a water filter if the water is too chalky, although better to avoid if you can as they also filter some of the good minerals.

There is a wonderful invention call a fridge which can make drinks cold. Fill a water bottle from the tap, stick it in the fridge, then drink cold from the fridge rather than the tap. Use a couple of bottles and you can make sure you always have a cold one available.


Sugary drinks are also not cold unless you put them in the fridge

I don't know in the UK, but I would think so (at least hope so). In Germany you have to look hard to find cordials with added sugar or artificial sweeteners, most require you to keep them in the fridge after opening.


Alternatively, you can also dilute normal fruit juice, but you have to mix more fruit juice to water to get a nice flavour compared to cordial/squash (which is concentrated). Mixing with sparkling water from a soda-stream is particularly nice with fresh apple juice.

markjmd

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The big difference is that in the case of tobacco and alcohol, the tax is paid by the end-consumer, whereas with the new sugar tax, it's paid by the manufacturers. This is having the end-effect that consumer choice is being reduced, because manufacturers and large retailers are now simply declining to produce or stock many soft drink varieties that aren't made with artificial sweeteners.
For those of us who have the will-power to consume such drinks in sensible, moderate quantities, this means we're no longer able to find the damn things in the shops, and are forced to either go without, or jump through hoops trying to find stockists online, or suck it up and settle for the stevia or aspartame sweetened alternatives, which are quite frankly disgusting.

ALi-B

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+1

Hence this thread: https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...weeteners.html

In addition Fanta has been ruined, along with Sprite, IRN-BRU etc. Why could they just stick to offering you separate diet/low/no sugar versions like Coca-cola and Pepsi do?

Martin2005

Yes I agree. That said those brands have been continuously reformulated over the past few years in order to reduce sugar. Not because of health issues, ,but because sweeteners a much cheaper than sugar.

andy97

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Only because of EU import tariffs

dpb

So when we're 'free' , big business / rich folk will be on a win win


archetypal brexit scenario

alcazar

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Yes! ANOTHER Brexit win!!!


They just keep coming don't they dpb?

dpb

Certainly, if you were born with silver spoon !

Take back control !

( Of some long defunct empire )