Jehovah's Witness child abusers
20 November 2017, 01:42 PM
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Jehovah's Witness child abusers
Yet another Christian organisation is revealed as a harbour for child abusers. I've noticed of late that when this outfit come knocking they bring young kids with them who do all the talking. Looks like they've been talking too much for comfort now.
20 November 2017, 02:59 PM
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To be fair, religion is just one of many organisations that do it and hide it. It's not as if all the abuses in children's homes were driven by, or covered up by, religion.
There are just bad people about, and others willing to be complicit in that abuse and hide it. Whatever their affiliation is irrelevant, I think.
There are just bad people about, and others willing to be complicit in that abuse and hide it. Whatever their affiliation is irrelevant, I think.
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20 November 2017, 03:56 PM
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To be fair, religion is just one of many organisations that do it and hide it. It's not as if all the abuses in children's homes were driven by, or covered up by, religion.
There are just bad people about, and others willing to be complicit in that abuse and hide it. Whatever their affiliation is irrelevant, I think.
There are just bad people about, and others willing to be complicit in that abuse and hide it. Whatever their affiliation is irrelevant, I think.
An organisation (insert various religions) that have mainly a man as their lead, certain types even prevent their leaders from marrying women or allowing women equal rights but have rights over how women lead their lives or treat their bodies.
They are self governing with no independent external scrutiny.
Something is not quite right there?
20 November 2017, 04:42 PM
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An organisation (insert various religions) that have mainly a man as their lead, certain types even prevent their leaders from marrying women or allowing women equal rights but have rights over how women lead their lives or treat their bodies.
They are self governing with no independent external scrutiny.
Something is not quite right there?
They are self governing with no independent external scrutiny.
Something is not quite right there?
Also, whilst not necessarily young boys or girls, the entertainment business is clearly full of some very unsavoury people, too. The church is just bigger, it's bound to have more instances.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending them, they are as bad and hypocritical as all the others. Just not unique in any meaningful way.
20 November 2017, 05:07 PM
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Like children's homes?
It is true that they are self governing, but as other instances illustrate, even governed bodies can have serious abuses and not be found out.
Also, whilst not necessarily young boys or girls, the entertainment business is clearly full of some very unsavoury people, too. The church is just bigger, it's bound to have more instances.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending them, they are as bad and hypocritical as all the others. Just not unique in any meaningful way.
It is true that they are self governing, but as other instances illustrate, even governed bodies can have serious abuses and not be found out.
Also, whilst not necessarily young boys or girls, the entertainment business is clearly full of some very unsavoury people, too. The church is just bigger, it's bound to have more instances.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending them, they are as bad and hypocritical as all the others. Just not unique in any meaningful way.
Wrong: religious bodies are unique in one very meaningful way: they are supposed to represent the purity of God and his works on earth. Should he exist I suspect God would be unimpressed by the multiple cases of abuse of children as young as three who have been entrusted to the care of those in various religious orders. The abuse has been concealed by those in high places, perhaps even tacitly condoned. What a disgrace.
20 November 2017, 05:31 PM
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Wrong: religious bodies are unique in one very meaningful way: they are supposed to represent the purity of God and his works on earth. Should he exist I suspect God would be unimpressed by the multiple cases of abuse of children as young as three who have been entrusted to the care of those in various religious orders. The abuse has been concealed by those in high places, perhaps even tacitly condoned. What a disgrace.
20 November 2017, 06:37 PM
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I have always made an effort to be polite to the JWs who knock on my door. I don't agree with what they say but to some extent admire their courage in calling at a stranger's house knowing that they are quite likely to be verbally abused.
So the few JWs who have shamed their religion are going to make it so much harder for the vast majority of genuine, albeit misguided, ones.
As an aside I have never understood their view on blood transfusions as it seems reasonable to me that the bible is open to interpretation. As a kid I was taught that things were created in 7 days but I now accept that that is not literally true.
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So the few JWs who have shamed their religion are going to make it so much harder for the vast majority of genuine, albeit misguided, ones.
As an aside I have never understood their view on blood transfusions as it seems reasonable to me that the bible is open to interpretation. As a kid I was taught that things were created in 7 days but I now accept that that is not literally true.
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21 November 2017, 12:06 AM
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Wrong: religious bodies are unique in one very meaningful way: they are supposed to represent the purity of God and his works on earth. Should he exist I suspect God would be unimpressed by the multiple cases of abuse of children as young as three who have been entrusted to the care of those in various religious orders. The abuse has been concealed by those in high places, perhaps even tacitly condoned. What a disgrace.
Whatever a god may mean, it still boils down to people hiding behind something, abusing the power they have. Bent coppers, priests, social workers, the list goes on. Man being **** to his fellow man.
21 November 2017, 05:13 AM
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I think you'll find abusers in every walk of life, it's just easier to conceal in a closed group... religious groups also seem to attract weirdos and those with problems.
Personally I think people that feel the need to join any "group" are generally weak minded, needy or have some sorts of superiority complexes and either want to be told what to do or tell people what to do.
Personally I think people that feel the need to join any "group" are generally weak minded, needy or have some sorts of superiority complexes and either want to be told what to do or tell people what to do.
21 November 2017, 08:15 AM
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I think you'll find abusers in every walk of life, it's just easier to conceal in a closed group... religious groups also seem to attract weirdos and those with problems.
Personally I think people that feel the need to join any "group" are generally weak minded, needy or have some sorts of superiority complexes and either want to be told what to do or tell people what to do.
Personally I think people that feel the need to join any "group" are generally weak minded, needy or have some sorts of superiority complexes and either want to be told what to do or tell people what to do.
21 November 2017, 08:30 AM
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I think you'll find abusers in every walk of life, it's just easier to conceal in a closed group... religious groups also seem to attract weirdos and those with problems.
Personally I think people that feel the need to join any "group" are generally weak minded, needy or have some sorts of superiority complexes and either want to be told what to do or tell people what to do.
Personally I think people that feel the need to join any "group" are generally weak minded, needy or have some sorts of superiority complexes and either want to be told what to do or tell people what to do.
Of course you wouldn't want to be part of any group that would accept you as a member!
21 November 2017, 10:30 AM
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Ah two prime examples right there.
Lets face it anyone that buy's into religion in this day and age isn't exactly going to be right in the head... much like other out dated concepts or serving ones queen and country, when you're really just a paid mercenary.
Lets face it anyone that buy's into religion in this day and age isn't exactly going to be right in the head... much like other out dated concepts or serving ones queen and country, when you're really just a paid mercenary.
21 November 2017, 11:01 AM
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Not just your country, countless others.
Still raping it's way through the middle east and Africa today.
21 November 2017, 11:29 AM
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Yeah I know all about that... couple of my neighbours sons are in the forces... one just got a £40k pay out... his pension and a very decent salary doing his old job as a civil servant.... other one is coming out in a couple more years with something similar.P.s... this place would be no fun if I couldn't poke the resident egits... so don't take it too personally.
21 November 2017, 11:46 AM
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Yea if you survive long enough and retire with a fully functioning body,
Not die in a cold empty flat unable to wipe your own *** when the government you risk life and limb for abandons you when you return, unable to mix with normal folk meanwhile the hell you have witnessed is glorified to temp more vulnerable young working class men to be crippled & maimed.
Yea our government really looks after its Vets......
22 November 2017, 01:10 PM
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