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Old 11 December 2018, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by trails
Fixed that for you...I'd say the percentage of leavers that thought about it was minuscule.
I'd like to think the Scots would have been well aware.

For example, like the Scots, we have our own sterling notes - for reasons which I don't particularly know or care.
The Scots will take our notes no problem, as will people from Liverpool/Manchester.

But further down south, they look at you like you've got two heads.
Old 11 December 2018, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
I'd like to think the Scots would have been well aware.

For example, like the Scots, we have our own sterling notes - for reasons which I don't particularly know or care.
The Scots will take our notes no problem, as will people from Liverpool/Manchester.

But further down south, they look at you like you've got two heads.
Both the Scots I know voted to leave as they thought it might lead to independence as Scotland wishes to remain.

It's just geographical location; of course those areas see more being that closer to notes origin. It's all the bloody foreigners working in London that can't recognise the currency
Old 11 December 2018, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
I'd like to think the Scots would have been well aware.

For example, like the Scots, we have our own sterling notes - for reasons which I don't particularly know or care.
The Scots will take our notes no problem, as will people from Liverpool/Manchester.

But further down south, they look at you like you've got two heads.
Because they are not legal tender, in England and Wales, it is purely up to the vendor whether they accept those notes. Ironically, those notes are not even legal tender in Scotland! This tells you what is and is not, so next time someone shouts at a shopkeeper they have to accept these notes.........
Old 11 December 2018, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Leave voters know exactly what leaving the EU means
Yeah, brexit means brexit, take back control, we knew what we voted for, we could give 350M to the NHS, just get on with it, they're queuing up to make trade deals with us, no deal is better than a bad deal.... all I hear from Brexiteers are pointless catchphrases yet never once do you hear a reasoned argument about how their idea of Brexit will actually improve things for the country as a whole! They complain endlessly about the remoaners, but give no solution to the Irish border or what a good deal with the EU should look like and how exactly they envisage bringing both sides together to unite the country. They claim they're not stupid but when they just regurgitate the same catchphrases over and over again with no real thought behind it, one does start to question their intelligence!?
Old 11 December 2018, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Fuji
Because they are not legal tender, in England and Wales, it is purely up to the vendor whether they accept those notes. Ironically, those notes are not even legal tender in Scotland! This tells you what is and is not, so next time someone shouts at a shopkeeper they have to accept these notes.........
That's good.

But, its still sterling at the end of the day, and guaranteed no one in Northern Ireland will refuse to accept a bank of England note, and I'd imagine the scots would be the same
To be fair, it is a bit stupid here, because all the banks all have their own notes
Old 11 December 2018, 04:05 PM
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I despise the eu with a passion
fair play to you Brit’s for having the ***** to get out of it
pity the dim witted politicians haven’t a clue how to navigate the exit and
Old 11 December 2018, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
I despise the eu with a passion

Why?
Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
fair play to you Brit’s for having the ***** to get out of it
We haven't yet, and we may yet not
Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
pity the dim witted politicians haven’t a clue how to navigate the exit and
No one has, funnily enough it's not that easy!
Old 11 December 2018, 04:53 PM
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but it should be
Old 11 December 2018, 04:56 PM
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Tell me please, what makes you think it should be easy?
Old 11 December 2018, 05:20 PM
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Why not ?

You want to leave an appalling marriage. Why not? Unless the evil cow wont make it simple
Old 11 December 2018, 05:26 PM
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Massive over simplification alert!
Old 11 December 2018, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Fuji
Massive over simplification alert!
Exactly
Old 11 December 2018, 06:28 PM
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lol. You boys
Old 11 December 2018, 06:39 PM
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Apologies to you both because you both have a stack of brains, I know that.

However, common sense has completely gone out of the window on this debate.
Old 11 December 2018, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by lozgti1
Why not ?

You want to leave an appalling marriage. Why not? Unless the evil cow wont make it simple
The comparison on leaving the EU to a divorce is a useful similie to explain Brexit to stupid people but in reality also a massive oversimplification.

If you want to expand the divorce analagy to more accurately reflect Brexit, then it's like having 27 wives and you want to divorce them all at the same time, only nobody has ever been divorced before and you have to first work out the whole legal issues and processes involved in creating a divorce, not to mention tying to work out who keeps the house, who gets the CD collection, who has the kids and what are the maintainance payments you'll have to make.

The last time that happened in British history was with Henry VIII's divorce from his first wife Kathrine of Aragon - to achieve that, he had to first enter negotiations with the Catholic church, before he then disolved the Catholic church and created his own church so he could take back control. After that, there was the small matter of burning all the Catholic monastaries and slaughtering anyone who refused to convert, which ultimately didn't go so well, which conveniently takes use back to the Irish border problem.

You may also take heed that Henry VIII first marriage lasted for 24 years (a long time back then), while the following 5 marriages didn't last 10 years together - clearly divorce didn't bring him as much happiness as his first marraige did!
Old 11 December 2018, 11:02 PM
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We need to either stay in or get out properly.

I'm becoming increasingly agnostic about both options.
Old 12 December 2018, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
The comparison on leaving the EU to a divorce is a useful similie to explain Brexit to stupid people but in reality also a massive oversimplification.

If you want to expand the divorce analagy to more accurately reflect Brexit, then it's like having 27 wives and you want to divorce them all at the same time, only nobody has ever been divorced before and you have to first work out the whole legal issues and processes involved in creating a divorce, not to mention tying to work out who keeps the house, who gets the CD collection, who has the kids and what are the maintainance payments you'll have to make.

The last time that happened in British history was with Henry VIII's divorce from his first wife Kathrine of Aragon - to achieve that, he had to first enter negotiations with the Catholic church, before he then disolved the Catholic church and created his own church so he could take back control. After that, there was the small matter of burning all the Catholic monastaries and slaughtering anyone who refused to convert, which ultimately didn't go so well, which conveniently takes use back to the Irish border problem.

You may also take heed that Henry VIII first marriage lasted for 24 years (a long time back then), while the following 5 marriages didn't last 10 years together - clearly divorce didn't bring him as much happiness as his first marraige did!
... sits patiently waiting for one of the Brexitards to come along and suggest we start lopping off the collective heads of the EU 27's Prime Ministers and Presidents
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And now we are facing a vote of no confidence in the PM, the country is fcuked as it stands thanks to this brexit shyte, things can only get worse from here on.
Stock markets will no doubt take a hit today.

Who else seems willing and able to do a better job?

Certainly not Corbyn, or Johnson.
That geeky ******* Rees-Mogg - no thanks

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This whole sorry affair has been about divisions in the Conservative party. Its been pretty clear since John Major was PM, the Tories are really two parties trying to operate as one, they should have split years ago. Labour isn't much better either. The last thing the country needs now is a leadership vote or god forbid another general election. It's time parliament started working together for the good of the country - The people voted in the last election for a hung parliament, for the whole parliament to work together to sort out Brexit, not for Theresa May in her one woman show and her minority government backed up by a dodgy deal with the DUP to decide everything by herself!
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After the no confidence vote was announced, a guy here at work immediately came out with "it's remainers fault, as they haven't got behind the deal, so we are in this mess". When I pointed out that remainers in the population can have no bearing on it, and that the people May appointed were Leavers, he didn't try to answer, he just repeated it like some mantra.

Sums them up really..........
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Originally Posted by Mr Fuji
After the no confidence vote was announced, a guy here at work immediately came out with "it's remainers fault, as they haven't got behind the deal, so we are in this mess". When I pointed out that remainers in the population can have no bearing on it, and that the people May appointed were Leavers, he didn't try to answer, he just repeated it like some mantra.

Sums them up really..........
Factually incorrect, there are more remain support in the Tories, than leave. So Remain voted a remain candidate, who have underhandedly set about wasting time and direction, to run the clock down to make a desperate situation you see now . Only the significant Leave minority of Tories and DUP have saved the UK from May's capitulation deal. Everyone knows May's deal is ****
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Originally Posted by andy97
Factually incorrect, there are more remain support in the Tories, than leave. So Remain voted a remain candidate, who have underhandedly set about wasting time and direction, to run the clock down to make a desperate situation you see now . Only the significant Leave minority of Tories and DUP have saved the UK from May's capitulation deal. Everyone knows May's deal is ****
There's plenty of blame to share around on this.

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Originally Posted by Martin2005
There's plenty of blame to share around on this.

There is, but the captain is a remainer and undermined the leave appointed ministers. Thats why they resigned, knowing what was going on in the inner circle of the PM remain group
Old 12 December 2018, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Factually incorrect, there are more remain support in the Tories, than leave. So Remain voted a remain candidate, who have underhandedly set about wasting time and direction, to run the clock down to make a desperate situation you see now . Only the significant Leave minority of Tories and DUP have saved the UK from May's capitulation deal. Everyone knows May's deal is ****
Tin hats at the ready, I feel a conspiracy coming on!

By those facts, then its fair to say there is little chance of her losing the no confidence vote and even if she did, its highly likely that they'll just replace her with another remainer who will do exactly the same, rendering the whole no-confidence vote pointless.

But here's something for you Brexiteers to think about - we had a general election and the public voted for all these remainer MPs rather than a bunch of leave MPs, so ergo the public voted for remainer MPs to negotiate Brexit.
Old 12 December 2018, 01:29 PM
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Having watched about 20 mins of PMQ's, one things guaranteed, Corbyn is a cvnt, a cvnt who seems to want to nothing more than stir the ****
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
Tin hats at the ready, I feel a conspiracy coming on!

By those facts, then its fair to say there is little chance of her losing the no confidence vote and even if she did, its highly likely that they'll just replace her with another remainer who will do exactly the same, rendering the whole no-confidence vote pointless.

But here's something for you Brexiteers to think about - we had a general election and the public voted for all these remainer MPs rather than a bunch of leave MPs, so ergo the public voted for remainer MPs to negotiate Brexit.
Only because its was better option than Labour. Its likely she will survive, but an analyst pointed out that Thatcher and Major got more votes than the challengers but still ended up resigning . Its the margin of victory which is as important.
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Originally Posted by urban
Having watched about 20 mins of PMQ's, one things guaranteed, Corbyn is a cvnt, a cvnt who seems to want to nothing more than stir the ****
That's one thing we can agree on! If we had a stronger opposition, we may not be in such a mess now!


Originally Posted by andy97
Only because its was better option than Labour. Its likely she will survive, but an analyst pointed out that Thatcher and Major got more votes than the challengers but still ended up resigning . Its the margin of victory which is as important.
If the margin of victory is narrow, then the right thing to do, what Thatcher and Major did, is to resign! But Theresa May has often demonstrated that she rarely does the right thing and carries on regardless!
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Major did not lose a leadership vote.

He resigned and immediately stood again in a leadership election on a 'put up or shut up' challenge to many of the anti-EU Tory backbench 'Barstewards' that have made life so difficult for May.
He won the resulting leadership election.

Major eventually resigned as Tory leader after he was defeated by Tony Blair in a General Election.

Keep it accurate please.
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a tory leave supporter should dealt with the eu negotiations not treason may she couldn't negotiate her way out of a paper bag with a stanley knife in her hand,
after watching earlier i think her and macron are doomed
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Originally Posted by madscoob
a tory leave supporter should dealt with the eu negotiations not treason may she couldn't negotiate her way out of a paper bag with a stanley knife in her hand,
after watching earlier i think her and macron are doomed
​​​​​​May will win confidence vote tonight, with the guarantee of leaving her position after March 2019, but before 2022.


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