So Brexit seems to be a good thing then.
19 July 2018, 12:46 PM
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In all seriousness, i think alot of folks have had enough of the EU for various reasons. where we will be in 10 years time no one can tell you.
People are either over egging the up sides or the downsides depending on their perspective and the reality is i suspect things wont change much. I seem to remember last time i went to france i had to take and show a passport (going back a few years mind you)
What we do know is people trade with the EU without free trade agreements, borders work without free trade agreements or free movement agreements.
We import and export goods from all over the world so systems can be put in place that work.
There will be some short term turmoil, but i don't think long term it will change much.
People are either over egging the up sides or the downsides depending on their perspective and the reality is i suspect things wont change much. I seem to remember last time i went to france i had to take and show a passport (going back a few years mind you)
What we do know is people trade with the EU without free trade agreements, borders work without free trade agreements or free movement agreements.
We import and export goods from all over the world so systems can be put in place that work.
There will be some short term turmoil, but i don't think long term it will change much.
Sorry Tidgy, that's 100% waffle.
'Various reasons"...not sure what these various reasons are other that the immigration trigger which the EU do not control.
Logic tells us that we will not be able to negotiate such favourable deals without the combined weight\support of the EU. Therefore we will be worse off, not for 10 years but for perpetuity.
...and if you don't think much will change long term why the blimming hell would you support short term turmoil?
19 July 2018, 01:06 PM
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Sorry Tidgy, that's 100% waffle.
'Various reasons"...not sure what these various reasons are other that the immigration trigger which the EU do not control.
Logic tells us that we will not be able to negotiate such favourable deals without the combined weight\support of the EU. Therefore we will be worse off, not for 10 years but for perpetuity.
...and if you don't think much will change long term why the blimming hell would you support short term turmoil?
'Various reasons"...not sure what these various reasons are other that the immigration trigger which the EU do not control.
Logic tells us that we will not be able to negotiate such favourable deals without the combined weight\support of the EU. Therefore we will be worse off, not for 10 years but for perpetuity.
...and if you don't think much will change long term why the blimming hell would you support short term turmoil?
19 July 2018, 01:08 PM
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In all seriousness, i think alot of folks have had enough of the EU for various reasons. where we will be in 10 years time no one can tell you.
People are either over egging the up sides or the downsides depending on their perspective and the reality is i suspect things wont change much. I seem to remember last time i went to france i had to take and show a passport (going back a few years mind you)
What we do know is people trade with the EU without free trade agreements, borders work without free trade agreements or free movement agreements.
We import and export goods from all over the world so systems can be put in place that work.
There will be some short term turmoil, but i don't think long term it will change much.
People are either over egging the up sides or the downsides depending on their perspective and the reality is i suspect things wont change much. I seem to remember last time i went to france i had to take and show a passport (going back a few years mind you)
What we do know is people trade with the EU without free trade agreements, borders work without free trade agreements or free movement agreements.
We import and export goods from all over the world so systems can be put in place that work.
There will be some short term turmoil, but i don't think long term it will change much.
The only way that can be balanced out is if we get fantastic trade deals with the rest the world. That is by no mans certain, and will take a long time. That is the reality that Leavers seem to ignore, deny, whatever you want.
19 July 2018, 01:15 PM
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lol a reasonable post which has zero substance that I call you out on, so now I'm the nutter.
Like I said; wilful ignorance. ******* Cameron and his assumption that nobody would be dumb enough to vote leave.
19 July 2018, 01:31 PM
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19 July 2018, 02:11 PM
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Let's cut the guy some slack here. Maybe he knew along, but the guilt of having such a privileged education drove him for some reason to throw the future of the country into the hands of people who'd barely had any at all. He might yet go down in history as one of Britain's greatest ever egalitarians
maybe that is the real bigger picture and we just can't see it
22 July 2018, 03:00 AM
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Cos brexiters here didn't want force EU to change , they just wanted out - right?!!
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...916.html%3famp
Wrong
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...916.html%3famp
Wrong
25 July 2018, 01:20 PM
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Aside from the UK starting to stockpile medicines and food it is reported it will also be illegal for pensions to be paid into non-UK bank accounts. So pretty much every pensioner abroad will be screwed
25 July 2018, 01:26 PM
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26 July 2018, 09:54 AM
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https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may...on-brexit-deal
lets see who starts foaming at the mouth first...
lets see who starts foaming at the mouth first...
26 July 2018, 01:49 PM
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https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may...on-brexit-deal
lets see who starts foaming at the mouth first...
lets see who starts foaming at the mouth first...
Has anything on change.org ever managed to get through to make it into parliamentary policy?
Excluding private members bills which get through under the radar, usually because only four politicians are sitting in the commons at the time
