hodgy0_2

is this a serious post?

you think you can remove yourself from your biggest trading partners - and it not involve economics

jeez


anyway a timely article

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-new...-in-car-safety

"Head of Global NCAP says leaving EU will turn Britain into a rule taker, not a rule maker, for car safety regulation

One of the world’s leading car safety experts has said leaving the EU will render the UK a “second-hand dealer” in vehicle safety and emission standards."

hodgy0_2

interestingly MIRA are currently an EU Notified body for CE marking of certain products

http://ec.europa.eu/growth/tools-dat...8&version_no=1

they lose that ability post Brexit so they will probably have to move some operations to the EU

^Qwerty^

If the EU expands as it has done in the past and taps in to a cheaper work force by doing so; throw in regional development grants or whatever they are called to attract companies to those regions or countries, then the likes of JLR would move out the UK regardless if we remain in or not. So you could argue that we are paying the EU to encourage companies to move whatever they do (in the UK) to another country in the EU which can do it cheaper.

In other EU news: https://boingboing.net/2018/06/07/thanks-axel-voss.html

BMWhere?

If that were the case, then why did none of these companies up sticks the last couple of times the EU expanded.


In reality, any cheap labour gains from new members is relatively short lived as wage growth in new member states is generally extremely high as the local economy balances itself against the rest of the EU. Look at all the Polish who are now returning home as they can often earn the same in Poland now as they can in the UK.


I'm also very sure that the EU won't be expanding any more in the short or medium term.

dpb

Presumably this is why ford moved to turkey

BMWhere?

Ford is also in the US and are still building cars in the UK and Germany.

^Qwerty^

Personally I expect the ROI on a manufacturing plant is in the decades, so I would never expect to see things like car manufacture jump around instantly a new country joins the club. But a quick google search tells me this:

Average monthly wage in UK manufacturing = Ł2396
Average monthly wage in Slovakia in manufacturing = 1070 Euro's

Other countries are probably the similar, so member of the EU or not, businesses will move to the cheapest option and I can't see the likes of Slovakia having wage parity within ten years. Ryton closed in 2006 and we are still no where near.

The company I work for has offices in other large European countries and where we can, we recruit and outsource to those countries because it is cheaper than hiring the same person in the UK every single time.

So I don't agree that the labour gains are short lived as evidence suggests otherwise.

Tidgy

99% of the uk car industry was destroyed waaay before brexit, unless your telling me they knew back then?

they will build them where ever is cheaper, simple as.

dpb

More doctors and nurses from abroad , bout time

Carers next

^Qwerty^

^^^^ Quote for truth

dpb

Dividend lol

https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...dend-spend-nhs


Still , if Boris says it , it mus be true and the brexiteers will lap it up

ALi-B

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More wasted opertunities: An extra Ł384million a week spent on new roads and infrastructure to prepare the country to be more competitive on a global scale would be of far greater long-term benefit to both the public and economy.

andy97

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True, the NHS is a waste of money. Make it direct subscription, then people will respect it and not visit AE with a blister on their little finger

^Qwerty^

Looks like we're getting the new train manufacturing plant anyway:

http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...tract-from-tfl

Bugger all to do with Brexit mind.....

dpb

I think there's a case for charge for small stuff, but in sure you don't really mean the whole thing

One visit to third world country would make you realise how blessed we are

andy97

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One visit to a private hospital, makes you realise how sh!te the NHS is.

Private hospital, Wonderfully efficient, MRI scans instantly at the consultants desktop, immediate analysis and recommendations to sort out problem.

dpb

So , no healthcare if you cant afford it ??

andy97

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If your health is a priority and you want the best available. If you prefer to spend your money on something else, so be it.

dpb

So , save up for that heart attack in fact !

Won't have to wait too long for this kind of treatment once the yanks get their claws in

andy97

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If you decide to neglect your health, have a poor diet, drink too much, then you've only yourself to blame.

Mr Fuji

So no more treatment for sports injuries, either?

dpb

Andy , as long as you keep funding nhs

Iv no problem with you paying extra to someone to get what Ever you want quicker / better

andy97

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If you're playing sports, your likely to have expenditure to fund health care. Well at least have the foresight to have insurance.

Mr Fuji

Really? All those unemployed playing footy on the estate?

andy97

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fit and healthy, should be working

coupe_20vt

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What a halfwit you are!


People born with hereditary conditions don't have themselves to blame.
People involved in accidents don't have themselves to blame.
People growing old don't have themselves to blame.


So in your right wing world, none of the above would get treatment?



Try engaging your tiny brain before writing the drivel you come out with,

Mr Fuji

Martin2005

Yes, you can't beat the logic of the average Brexiteer

andy97

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I love you too

andy97

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