alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Obviously not being applied where I live then.

I think you are deluded matey.

StrangelyBrown

Why would they not. Qualifications on paper are meaningless without practical application. Simple really.

Having worked in Germany, Spain and the Czech Republic i think i have an understanding of what it is like to work in the EU.

You seems to be the Brexit supporter stereotype. Confused, angry man in their golden years unable to make sense of the world so want to go back to the good old days. There is nothing wrong with than but appreciate fostering that attitude only reinforces the stereotype to the point where nobody will take you seriously.

We voted to leave the EU, mainly based on misleading propaganda or no information. Are there any "benefits" to leaving the EU, what will the landscape look like after Brexit? Simply put, nobody knows, however the effects of the vote are being felt already and we are already out of pocket.

trails

iTrader: (41)

It’s a sentiment that runs through this entire thread. Prepare yourself for some BS based vitriol now. Predictable to say the least

StrangelyBrown

Agree. We are all entitled to an opinion and free speech, however majority of those how voted leave seem conduct themselves in such a way it begs the question as to whether they are mature enough to understand the ramifications of leaving the EU.


As for the childish attitude and name calling, just goes to show the mentality we are dealing with.

neil-h

I knew that would get you going It’s a funny logic really, I’d much rather have someone who was good at there job over someone who’s parents have “paid in”.

As for selfish attitude, it’s no more selfish than yours. Why should the rest of us suffer just because you’ve had a few bad experiences with immigrants?

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

I think you are confusing those who voted out with those who voted remain.

MOST of the vitriol, name calling and general bad manners have come from the Remongs.

That which has come from me has been in answer to having been called names time and time again, after asking for it to stop....but no, Remongs are such thickies they cannot argue without name calling.

Mr Fuji

If it's not being applied, then it's not the EU's fault, is it?

I see you dragged up your IAJFEE bollocks again, which is ironic considering that is exactly the attitude you display, being of an age where Brexit won't really affect you, but may well have profound repercussions on future generations.

Of course, people do tend to vote on their own, personal experience, and immigration may have caused you personally some issues, but overall for the country, it is a good thing. As for them 'stealing our jobs' and 'coming over here for benefits', which is it? They can't do both.

The UK unemployment figures have not risen as immigration has risen, your assertion has no merit whatsoever. What we will face, post Wrexit, is a sever shortage in the service industries, medicine, construction and the more menial jobs which immigrants perform. You seem unable to tackle that one, not unsurprisingly.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

The mills of God, and all that.

You will have your Karma, I just hope I live to laugh at it.

StrangelyBrown

Irony.

StrangelyBrown

Typical bitter twisted comment we have come to expect from those devoid of joy in their life.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

So WHO THE DOUBLE F*CK decided it was a good idea to have complete Freedom of Movement, because if it wasn't the EU, I'm at a loss.

Utter nonsense. You have NO IDEA what effect it will, or won't have, and neither have any of your so-called experts.
Yet I HAVE evidence of the negative effects of uncontrolled immigration, and not just into the UK. Merkel's Germany, anyone? Areas of Sweden, anyone?

More cr@pulon....even those who work are generally on min wage or below, so claim benefits, pay little or nothing into the economy, yet take school places, NHS places, housing, and any benefits that go with.
Add to that the general deprtession of wages...and you lot have the temerity to call ME selfish????

Really? You seem so sure of your pathetic lies.

One question destroys your (lack of ) logic:

WHO DID ALL THOSE JOBS BEFORE WE OPENED THE DOORS TO THE EASTERN EUROPEANS?
Because we sure as flying fek DID NOT have full employment.....

Take your time...I'm sure your answer will be amusing

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

LOL, where is your snowflake concern when I am repeatedly told I won't live to see the effects so should have no say?

Where, when I am referred to as Alzheimers?

Keep your hypocritical feelings to your pathetic self

PS: try reading some of the things I've been called, try reading the post after post after post when I tried to STOP the name calling.

THEN try irony?

StrangelyBrown

Triggered

dpb

Utter nonsense. You have NO IDEA what effect it will, or won't have, and neither have any of your so-called experts.
Yet I HAVE evidence of the negative effects of uncontrolled immigration, and not just into the UK. Merkel's Germany, anyone? Areas of Sweden, anyone?


Its not uncontrolled though , is it ! these people apply for asylum

youve basically just made it up !

how can we take you and other brexiters seriously ?

neil-h

What a wonderful human being you are.

Mr Fuji

Immigrants are nett contributors to the economy, nothing more needs to be said. Even if there are some claiming benefits, they are more than compensated for by the rest. It's not difficult.

If we were to take your stance, we would have no motorways because building the M1 was in inconvenience for me, so I'll stop something that benefits the nation. IAJFEE, eh?

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Apply for asylum? FROM WHAT??????

You are dso naive as to be stupid.
THEY ARE ECONOMIC MIGRANTS.

That's why there are no old people, hardly any women and no REAL children.

StrangelyBrown

Next thing you'll be saying you have the up most respect for Britain First

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Who says? Even taking into account the school places, the housing, the benefits, the NHS use?

If you seriously believe that YOU are as thick as Dull ***** Boy.

I thinks that's what's called a strawman argument? Look it up.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Strawman argument, try to keep up.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Why thanks you.
You, unfortunately are a give-but-can't-take person and a hypocrite.

StrangelyBrown

What you grasping at straws?

dpb

oh dear oh dear, not much point arguing with someone whos made up their mind

StrangelyBrown

The school yard name calling, caps lock attitude and "fake news" approach to proven facts are the version reason why the narrow minded Brexit drum bangers will never be taken seriously outside of their gene pool.

StrangelyBrown

I'm all for discussing brexit, however the way certain people believe their opinion matters most so they shout, scream above others to ensure they get their point across makes it difficult to have a meaningful conversation.

neil-h

Pot calling the kettle black much?

Reinhold

Having struggled through this thread I've seen no evidence of anyone being persuaded to change their mind.

dpb

Once youve attained a certain vintage you can only see things through rose tinted !

As you yearn for as they used to be in child hood , not realising the world has moved on


perfectly understandable

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

I agree Reinhold.

if these Remongs had even one braincell between them, they'd shrug and IN THE BRITISH WAY, get on with it.

But they don't.
They cry, weep, gnash their teeth, p*ss and moan.

Just like a crowd of old ladies.

StrangelyBrown

You want to be taken seriously yet result to childish name calling - grow up kiddo. One day you'll understand what it is to be British. Until then learn from others.