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Old 30 October 2015, 12:32 PM
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Default Renovating beams.

The missus and I are a couple of weeks from completion on this:







We're looking to lighten the beams below by restoring them back to the original timber finish.










I'm wondering if anyone has any experience of this. I've done some research around the different techniques and I'm awaiting quotes, but would like to hear from fellow S'netters.
Old 30 October 2015, 02:15 PM
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They look pretty good as they are, why would you want to lighten them? Fab-looking cottage btw
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I'm in the same boat with an oak porch and solid meranti panelled garage door; All painted with umpteen coats of mahogany stain.

I hate mahogany stain - its not even close to mahogany in colour (too red). And after too many coats it all just looks black.

I've not had quotes yet but two options are; Pickling with chemicle stripper or sand/media blasting.

I tested pickling on the shed doors (same problem) and whilst it removed it all to bare wood, the top layer of wood had soaked in the stain, so some of the grain was still overly-dark; I ran out of time sorting it so had to re-stain it before the weather changed - in light oak. Its ok- better than before, but the some of the grain is very dark still and thats just with two coats.

All of the soffits and bargeboards are also affected, I ended up cladding the rear with uPVC to reduce mainatence costs (gets the sun all day so timber needed treating every few years...even with Sikkens), but the front I want to keep teh timber if I can...I may just replace the soffits with new timber as cost wise it maybe cheaper, but I can't do that with the porch or garage doors.

I think sandblasting (or media blasting) may possibly remove the top layer of wood as well, so maybe it would be more effective?

Nice house btw

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Originally Posted by markjmd
They look pretty good as they are, why would you want to lighten them? Fab-looking cottage btw
Thank you! We feel really fortunate to be getting it!

This is the look I'd like to achieve for the ceiling:




Maybe a little darker and with a bit more character, but ultimately we want to lighten the whole room up and go with natural, neutral, wood and stone.

This is the view, for what it's worth:




Really excited!!
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
I'm in the same boat with an oak porch and solid meranti panelled garage door; All painted with umpteen coats of mahogany stain.

I hate mahogany stain - its not even close to mahogany in colour (too red). And after too many coats it all just looks black.

I've not had quotes yet but two options are; Pickling with chemicle stripper or sand/media blasting.

I tested pickling on the shed doors (same problem) and whilst it removed it all to bare wood, the top layer of wood had soaked in the stain, so some of the grain was still overly-dark; I ran out of time sorting it so had to re-stain it before the weather changed - in light oak. Its ok- better than before, but the some of the grain is very dark still and thats just with two coats.

All of the soffits and bargeboards are also affected, I ended up cladding the rear with uPVC to reduce mainatence costs (gets the sun all day so timber needed treating every few years...even with Sikkens), but the front I want to keep teh timber if I can...I may just replace the soffits with new timber as cost wise it maybe cheaper, but I can't do that with the porch or garage doors.

I think sandblasting (or media blasting) may possibly remove the top layer of wood as well, so maybe it would be more effective?

Nice house btw
Thanks for the compliment, Ali, feel blessed!

Here are my favourite outfits at the moment. Both different techniques:

http://www.beamingrestorations.com

And

http://www.beam-renovation.co.uk/contact/4574245938

Awaiting quotes from these two.

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Better picture of the view and the side of the house:






This is a picture of the beach (a mile away) and we'd like to replicate the tones and atmosphere of this:

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Maybe more this tone:


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lovely looking cottage and amazing views

and just something magical about the sea (I miss it if I don't see it for a month or too :-( - it is good for the soul)

anyway I presume the first photos are from the estate agent - and hence show the previous owners taste

which by the looks of the (very dark) furniture and carpets is quite "fussy"

which to me exacerbates the dark feel

I would wait until you strip all that crap out - it may not look as bad as it seems - imo

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They look like oak? Why make them look like pine?
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
lovely looking cottage and amazing views

and just something magical about the sea (I miss it if I don't see it for a month or too :-( - it is good for the soul)

anyway I presume the first photos are from the estate agent - and hence show the previous owners taste

which by the looks of the (very dark) furniture and carpets is quite "fussy"

which to me exacerbates the dark feel

I would wait until you strip all that crap out - it may not look as bad as it seems - imo



Thanks, Hodgy and yes they are the agent's photos and as such it is the vendor's taste. They're a nice older couple who are finding the gardening and upkeep a bit much so have decided to move down the road to a house that actually overlooks the beach pictured above. As you say, good for the soul.

There's a castle, too, which I don't have any shots of to hand, but I'll dig one out.

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Ogmore Castle and the River Ogmore which runs down past 'our' house.



The village sandwiched between the castle and 'our' home:





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Originally Posted by alcazar
They look like oak? Why make them look like pine?
I don't wish to do that, I intend to strip them back to their natural state and maybe give them a light oiling to bring out the grain.

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where you are has a great little micro climate

often sunny when all about is cloudy

I used to windsurf a lot - from Minehead, across the water

any westerly wind (especially with a touch of north in it) was accelerated a couple of forces

so you could windsurf when most of the country was windless

but there was always a square of blue sky above that part of the estuary - we called it the "minehead hole"

even now when I am driving with my family to Cornwall, as we travel south on the M5 I say to the kids

"look the minehead hole" - and it is always blue & sunny

they obviously pay no attention to though :-|

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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
where you are has a great little micro climate

often sunny when all about is cloudy

I used to windsurf a lot - from Minehead, across the water

any westerly wind (especially with a touch of north in it) was accelerated a couple of forces

so you could windsurf when most of the country was windless

but there was always a square of blue sky above that part of the estuary - we called it the "minehead hole"

even now when I am driving with my family to Cornwall, as we travel south on the M5 I say to the kids

"look the minehead hole" - and it is always blue & sunny

they obviously pay no attention to though :-|
You can see Somerset from Ogmore-by-Sea on a clear day and yes it's often pleasant weather. Where we are now is in a little village half-way up a small mountain and the clouds break right above us. We regularly travel from where we are to Ogmore-by-Sea for a pint and a bite to eat in The Pelican and are quite surprised at the stark contrast in the weather.
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Our new local which overlooks the castle.

http://www.pelicanpub.co.uk/thepelicanpub-og.html
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looks like a cracking local,

rare these days and always boost local house prices
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Stunning place buddy , really nice
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
looks like a cracking local,

rare these days and always boost local house prices
The Pelican Pie is something to behold and their guest ales are lovely!

Originally Posted by donny andi
Stunning place buddy , really nice
Thanks, Andi.
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Beaming Restorations want £1500 plus the vat.
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That doesn't surprise me.

I think whatever method 85% of the cost is going to be labour...how many people, and how many hours involved?
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Stunning property, and that is one fat pig!

Sorry, no help with the beams though.
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I used this at work and find it pretty good http://peelaway.co.uk/ there are different grades for different finishe types.
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
That doesn't surprise me.

I think whatever method 85% of the cost is going to be labour...how many people, and how many hours involved?
I've emailed them back asking for a breakdown of the costs.

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Stunning property, and that is one fat pig!

Sorry, no help with the beams though.
Yes, the pig's a whopper! Reminds me of Old Major from Animal Farm. Thanks for the kind words.



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I used this at work and find it pretty good http://peelaway.co.uk/ there are different grades for different finishe types.
Thanks, Gaz, will have a look. What's your trade if you don't mind me asking?
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Nice place you got in a stunning location ......
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To do this well would you not need to do all the internal timber - beams, door frames, doors etc to bring them all back to the same colour?
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Originally Posted by tarmac terror
To do this well would you not need to do all the internal timber - beams, door frames, doors etc to bring them all back to the same colour?
Yes, but I understand they can be dipped whereas the beams are structural and have to remain in situ.
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
Nice place you got in a stunning location ......
Thanks, Dirk.
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Thanks, Dirk.
Seriously JTaylor I would wait - impose your own style/personality on the property first off

Then see what's what

Maybe the beams need lightening but maybe not
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Seriously JTaylor I would wait - impose your own style/personality on the property first off

Then see what's what

Maybe the beams need lightening but maybe not
Sure, there's no rush I guess.
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
I've emailed them back asking for a breakdown of the costs.



Yes, the pig's a whopper! Reminds me of Old Major from Animal Farm. Thanks for the kind words.





Thanks, Gaz, will have a look. What's your trade if you don't mind me asking?
Hi I been in the building game for 29 years and for the last 7 maintaining a grade 1 listed Manor House


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