Anybody know where I can get these mail order in the UK/Europe?

Pat

 

They are a current design, so any Hella dealer ought to be able to supply.

They are also available from Scoob dealers and some aftermarket tuners as part of a kit.

Demon Tweeks may sell them, or you could try Googling "buy Hella 1000FF", or even e-bay.

The backs of the lamps differ in halogen and HID apparently

 

The only place I have seen that sells these are Demon Tweeks

Rallye 1000FF Gas Discharge Lamp | Lamps & Accessories | Demon Tweeks Motorsport, Motorcycle, Modifying, Parts and Accessories

 

Thanks lads. I did google them and only got one uk supplier, who doesn't do mail order. Demon tweeks only have the HID ones which are over my budget. I'll try the dealer route as I can't find Hella dealers here in Ireland (according to the Hella website)

Pat

 

I've been hearing of these mentioned more and more on SN.
Why are they so in demand?

 

see the other PIAA thread I found two suppliers using Google !

DunxC

P.S. cos they can be fitted with a cheap H1 HID kit and you can see ! ideal for classics with poor headlights, and bug-eyes with 400 bhp....

 

Halogen Driving Lamp Kit

 

Cheers dunx 10p for the phone in the morning. And thanks for the heads up with the HID too. I assume you've seen the price of the "official" units.

Pat

 

Well designed, been around for a while, so proven, don't suffer from moisture ingress, casings made from high impact plastic so no rust problems, and RELATIVELY cheap too.

Excellent beam pattern with very long throw

 

So is there a non HID version of the Hella 1000FF then?

 

Yes, they are the ones shown in the kit in the post above.

 

I thought the ones from Subaru/prodrive where HID's?

 

Not at £195 all in, when Demon Tweeks sell the HID version for over £400 EACH

Edited to say: saw a trucker this morning on the M180 with SIX Hella HID Luminators across the top.......they are even bigger than the 1000FF, and yes, you can tell if they are HID as they have a red bezel unlike the halogen ones which are black.

 

I want some red bezels

DunxC

P.S. Yes Pat mine list at £350 ! for my bug-eye Prodrive Edition ! ! ! Big thank you to Charlie for letting me have mine at a decent price

 

...Hence the price difference

 

Yes, mate, those red bezels cost the earth to produce and are stupidly expensive...........

Looking at the Hella site today, I can't find any mention of the 1000FF, so I wonder if it's been phased out

 

Can of red paint at Halford's then !

LOL

DunxC

 

The original Scoobysport kits with HID were delivered with the red bezels sprayed black.

I knew someone who spent an hour with some thinners putting them back to red

 

Ordered the lights a couple of days ago. Package arrived in dealers yesterday. We were both expecting two lamps. Only one comes with the above kit (£195). On closer inspection it does say driving lamp kit (presumably being singular). Only problem now is the second light is not shown as being immediately available so its on back order and of course I've got a 100% increase in price.

Halogen Driving Lamp Kit


Pat

 

Firstly, that's a HELL of a price for one lamp, kit or no, and secondly, the original Prodrive kit had both lamps for not much more money.

I'd suggest you contact Prodrive: 01295 273355

 

Scandalous !

No - LOL

DunxC

P.S. £60 + P&P to Apex Performance for a 4300K H1 HID kit will only add to the pain, but I guarantee you'll be pleased in the end....

 

Not a problem Duncan - glad your happy with them mate.

Got them fitted? Any pics to make me regret punting them

 

No decent camera Charlie, but with HID's in they are as better than anything I've ever owned, Cibie,PIAA included. Also thinking of a blue accent across the front of the car (black) to continue down the side.

Ta very much.

Duncan

 

Sounds good mate!

 

Just to be sure lads. If I want to upgrade these to HID am I correct in saying there is a bit of surgery required on the back of the lamp housing?

Tanyatriangles as I had ordered the bits over the phone with the part number the dealer wasn't very sympathetic with me trying to hand them back. I had already paid for them so am stuck. TBH I have been watching these for a long time and knew they were about £400 a couple of years ago. I just thought they had come down in price. Anyway it has forced my hand as I had to take the Oscar +s off as they were rotten about 6 months ago.

Pat

 

IIRC, the bulb holders, (well, the covers for them), for the HID ones are black ABS and stick out about 30mm, maybe more, behind the lamp housing.

I was of the impression that the halogen ones were H3, but others seem to say H1. I can no longer find reference to the 1000FF on the Hella site, so can't say.

You might need a separate bulb holder, cover etc.

You MAY be able to get the bits from Hella, but maybe not. Tried actually ringing them and asking? I don't mean a dealer, I mean Hella UK?

 

Susquehanna MotorSports - Detail

Then swap in a cheap HID kit and voila near factory FF1000 HID performance for less then half the price.

The site seems a bit amateur, but they do deliver, and have a good reputation in the USA.

There is a bit of work getting them to fit (I bought a HID kit with really small bulb holders), enlarging the hole in the back a bit was enough.
Seeing the factory hole in them isn't closed also, making it a big bigger shouldn't be a problem.
Had them for 3 years now, linked to the high beems, and tho it's bad for HID's to get flashed, they still work.
Car is lowered on still Coilover's, sees the Ring, so they do take a beating.

 

I've just had a look at that site, and would urge anyone using the Hella 1000FF's, ESPECIALLY mounted where the foglights usually are, to have a look here:
Susquehanna MotorSports - Detail

Not cheap, but a LOT cheaper than new lights. Scoobysport used to do something similar but not since they went under

 

Indeed.
If U mail them maybe you could swap the standard set of protectors (white w. Hella logo) that are included for these with a liitle cash.

 

The kit comes with a large grommet as standard, a 1" hole saw will see it sorted !

HTH

DunxC