Prodrive P1 Lowering Springs - Rare Purchase opportunity.
18 December 2014, 01:15 PM
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P11 spring set - red - for P1 Kyb inverted strut
P11-6 spring set - red - same as P11, but 6mm lower at front - for Excel-g, P1 kyb inverted, early Bilsteins, agx, koni
WR15 R/T spring set - grey - 40N/mm/35N/mm - ground top coil - front 12mm lower than P11, rear 6mm lower than P11 - for agx, koni and late Bilsteins. Prototype still to be tested on car.
Let me know if there's any interest in a Track/Road spring set - I am still progressing a design.
8 weeks delivery to Eibach UK from order. Accepting orders from 5th Jan.
Question is how many to order?
Pricing:
P11 and P11-6
Minimum order 25 sets - £270 delivered UK mainland
50 sets or more - £235 delivered UK mainland
WR15 R/T
Minimum order 25 sets - £290 delivered UK mainland
50 sets or more - £255 delivered UK mainland
Happy Christmas
18 December 2014, 01:18 PM
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Hi,
could you clarify which springs are the closest to the original P1's Spring and will fit on the original P1 damper.
If you can clarify that I am in
(Owner of a P1)
could you clarify which springs are the closest to the original P1's Spring and will fit on the original P1 damper.
If you can clarify that I am in
(Owner of a P1)
18 December 2014, 01:53 PM
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OK.
P11 spring set - red - for P1 Kyb inverted strut
P11-6 spring set - red - same as P11, but 6mm lower at front - for Excel-g, P1 kyb inverted, early Bilsteins, agx, koni
WR15 R/T spring set - grey - 40N/mm/35N/mm - ground top coil - front 12mm lower than P11, rear 6mm lower than P11 - for agx, koni and late Bilsteins. Prototype still to be tested on car.
Let me know if there's any interest in a Track/Road spring set - I am still progressing a design.
8 weeks delivery to Eibach UK from order. Accepting orders from 5th Jan.
Question is how many to order?
Pricing:
P11 and P11-6
Minimum order 25 sets - £270 delivered UK mainland
50 sets or more - £235 delivered UK mainland
WR15 R/T
Minimum order 25 sets - £290 delivered UK mainland
50 sets or more - £255 delivered UK mainland
Happy Christmas
P11 spring set - red - for P1 Kyb inverted strut
P11-6 spring set - red - same as P11, but 6mm lower at front - for Excel-g, P1 kyb inverted, early Bilsteins, agx, koni
WR15 R/T spring set - grey - 40N/mm/35N/mm - ground top coil - front 12mm lower than P11, rear 6mm lower than P11 - for agx, koni and late Bilsteins. Prototype still to be tested on car.
Let me know if there's any interest in a Track/Road spring set - I am still progressing a design.
8 weeks delivery to Eibach UK from order. Accepting orders from 5th Jan.
Question is how many to order?
Pricing:
P11 and P11-6
Minimum order 25 sets - £270 delivered UK mainland
50 sets or more - £235 delivered UK mainland
WR15 R/T
Minimum order 25 sets - £290 delivered UK mainland
50 sets or more - £255 delivered UK mainland
Happy Christmas
Last edited by topshot; 18 December 2014 at 01:56 PM.
18 December 2014, 02:48 PM
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Bilstein are now (not Eibach) making a tool to get the 22mm damper shaft in their measuring device:
6 front and 3 rear bump stops, will be tested against the originals. That should give an indication as to whether replacing, or cutting down, the bump stops, might be better or no advantage.
HTH
6 front and 3 rear bump stops, will be tested against the originals. That should give an indication as to whether replacing, or cutting down, the bump stops, might be better or no advantage.
HTH
Last edited by 2pot; 18 December 2014 at 02:50 PM.
18 December 2014, 03:12 PM
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Does anyone have the part numbers of P1 struts so I am compare them to the red KYB inverted struts I have? Mine are of a V5 Type R. Are they likely to be the same?
18 December 2014, 03:52 PM
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I'd guess you'd be the WR15 R/T. Which is a closer match to the V5/V6 spring rates.
I would definitely fit some up-dated inverted bump stops.
http://pcadynamics.com/products/bump-stop-kits/
HTH
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18 December 2014, 05:13 PM
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Ok so I've had a few minutes to myself and from what I've found already the P1 red inverted struts are the same as the STI red inverted struts. Same part number!
18 December 2014, 05:47 PM
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Right.
Walk me through this as if I were a small child.
The WR15 R/T are for the standard KYB AGX, correct? What are the spring rates f/r? Is this a linear spring? Estimated longevity based on other springs of a similar design? Actual ride height? Added cost for the flattened top coil? Any additional parts I should have for use with the KYB AGX? An idea of the differences between the spring sets so I can decide if it is worth it to get upgraded struts? And shipping to the US?
Supposing we don't get the minimum orders by Jan. 5, what then? Kick the end date up the field a little longer, or is the whole thing called off (which would be a shame given the work done)? Or will more money work?
Walk me through this as if I were a small child.
The WR15 R/T are for the standard KYB AGX, correct? What are the spring rates f/r? Is this a linear spring? Estimated longevity based on other springs of a similar design? Actual ride height? Added cost for the flattened top coil? Any additional parts I should have for use with the KYB AGX? An idea of the differences between the spring sets so I can decide if it is worth it to get upgraded struts? And shipping to the US?
Supposing we don't get the minimum orders by Jan. 5, what then? Kick the end date up the field a little longer, or is the whole thing called off (which would be a shame given the work done)? Or will more money work?
18 December 2014, 08:06 PM
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Take a look at this thread for part numbers:
https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...t-numbers.html
And this from eBay:
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUBARU-IMPRE...-/201223349917
Both show that P1 struts are the same as the Type R struts I have here. What's your thoughts on this 2pot?
https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...t-numbers.html
And this from eBay:
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUBARU-IMPRE...-/201223349917
Both show that P1 struts are the same as the Type R struts I have here. What's your thoughts on this 2pot?
18 December 2014, 08:20 PM
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Take a look at this thread for part numbers:
https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...t-numbers.html
And this from eBay:
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUBARU-IMPRE...-/201223349917
Both show that P1 struts are the same as the Type R struts I have here. What's your thoughts on this 2pot?
https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...t-numbers.html
And this from eBay:
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUBARU-IMPRE...-/201223349917
Both show that P1 struts are the same as the Type R struts I have here. What's your thoughts on this 2pot?
I'd guess the P1 spring set was, intentionally, over-damped compared to the JDM springs, used on the STI v5/6.
18 December 2014, 08:26 PM
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I don't know what's went on but from where I'm sitting it looks very like they do indeed share the same parts. Which is good for me 
Perhaps some kind P1 owner would shine a torch under their car and read the little white stickers on the bottom inside of the strut for us.
There's a full set of used P1 struts on eBay right now. I'll mail the seller to see if he can do the same for me.
As it stands I think it's safe to say the P1 springs will fit my V5 STI struts. In that case, when/how do we pay for the spring sets 2pot?
Perhaps some kind P1 owner would shine a torch under their car and read the little white stickers on the bottom inside of the strut for us.
There's a full set of used P1 struts on eBay right now. I'll mail the seller to see if he can do the same for me.
As it stands I think it's safe to say the P1 springs will fit my V5 STI struts. In that case, when/how do we pay for the spring sets 2pot?
18 December 2014, 08:36 PM
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Text taken from a post on the Type-RA forum:
The red dampers were kept by Prodrive for use on the P1 - but with their own spring specification. In theory you can buy them via the UK dealer network still (at a price!) but I have heard mixed messages as to availability. Part number if you want to try -
FL - 20311FA960
FR - 20311FA950
RL - 20360FA960
RR - 20360FA950
The red dampers were kept by Prodrive for use on the P1 - but with their own spring specification. In theory you can buy them via the UK dealer network still (at a price!) but I have heard mixed messages as to availability. Part number if you want to try -
FL - 20311FA960
FR - 20311FA950
RL - 20360FA960
RR - 20360FA950
18 December 2014, 09:09 PM
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I don't know what's went on but from where I'm sitting it looks very like they do indeed share the same parts. Which is good for me
Perhaps some kind P1 owner would shine a torch under their car and read the little white stickers on the bottom inside of the strut for us.
There's a full set of used P1 struts on eBay right now. I'll mail the seller to see if he can do the same for me.
As it stands I think it's safe to say the P1 springs will fit my V5 STI struts. In that case, when/how do we pay for the spring sets 2pot?
Perhaps some kind P1 owner would shine a torch under their car and read the little white stickers on the bottom inside of the strut for us.
There's a full set of used P1 struts on eBay right now. I'll mail the seller to see if he can do the same for me.
As it stands I think it's safe to say the P1 springs will fit my V5 STI struts. In that case, when/how do we pay for the spring sets 2pot?
On that time scale, I wouldn't expect funds until the end of Feb.
18 December 2014, 10:33 PM
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Right.
Walk me through this as if I were a small child.
The WR15 R/T are for the standard KYB AGX, correct? Yes, amongst others. Try setting 3 front, 5/6 rear.
What are the spring rates f/r? 230/200
Is this a linear spring? It's not a coilover. Linearity is intentionally confined to a prescribed range.
Estimated longevity based on other springs of a similar design? ??????????
Actual ride height? WR15 R/T 13.25ish" wheel centre to arch.
Added cost for the flattened top coil? Already part of the WR15 R/T design
Any additional parts I should have for use with the KYB AGX? No
An idea of the differences between the spring sets so I can decide if it is worth it to get upgraded struts? P11 for P1 originality and ride heights. P11-6 for those who can't stand the P1 front arch gap. WR15 R/T - lowered, therefore higher spring rate, smooth roads/track days.
And shipping to the US? As a one off $120 + $11 import duty.
Supposing we don't get the minimum orders by Jan. 5, what then? Kick the end date up the field a little longer, or is the whole thing called off (which would be a shame given the work done)? The 5th Jan is the earliest possible order date.
Or will more money work? Got to get 25 minimum orders per spring set.
Walk me through this as if I were a small child.
The WR15 R/T are for the standard KYB AGX, correct? Yes, amongst others. Try setting 3 front, 5/6 rear.
What are the spring rates f/r? 230/200
Is this a linear spring? It's not a coilover. Linearity is intentionally confined to a prescribed range.
Estimated longevity based on other springs of a similar design? ??????????
Actual ride height? WR15 R/T 13.25ish" wheel centre to arch.
Added cost for the flattened top coil? Already part of the WR15 R/T design
Any additional parts I should have for use with the KYB AGX? No
An idea of the differences between the spring sets so I can decide if it is worth it to get upgraded struts? P11 for P1 originality and ride heights. P11-6 for those who can't stand the P1 front arch gap. WR15 R/T - lowered, therefore higher spring rate, smooth roads/track days.
And shipping to the US? As a one off $120 + $11 import duty.
Supposing we don't get the minimum orders by Jan. 5, what then? Kick the end date up the field a little longer, or is the whole thing called off (which would be a shame given the work done)? The 5th Jan is the earliest possible order date.
Or will more money work? Got to get 25 minimum orders per spring set.
18 December 2014, 10:57 PM
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After plenty of reading, I'd like to get a set of the P11-6 springs. I'm in Northern Ireland so I assume there's a little more shipping cost. At least I have a couple of months to do a good refurb on the red struts now!
19 December 2014, 07:03 AM
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Right.
Walk me through this as if I were a small child.
The WR15 R/T are for the standard KYB AGX, correct? Yes, amongst others. Try setting 3 front, 5/6 rear.
What are the spring rates f/r? 230/200
Is this a linear spring? It's not a coilover. Linearity is intentionally confined to a prescribed range.
Estimated longevity based on other springs of a similar design? ??????????
Actual ride height? WR15 R/T 13.25ish" wheel centre to arch.
Added cost for the flattened top coil? Already part of the WR15 R/T design
Any additional parts I should have for use with the KYB AGX? No
An idea of the differences between the spring sets so I can decide if it is worth it to get upgraded struts? P11 for P1 originality and ride heights. P11-6 for those who can't stand the P1 front arch gap. WR15 R/T - lowered, therefore higher spring rate, smooth roads/track days.
And shipping to the US? As a one off $120 + $11 import duty.
Supposing we don't get the minimum orders by Jan. 5, what then? Kick the end date up the field a little longer, or is the whole thing called off (which would be a shame given the work done)? The 5th Jan is the earliest possible order date.
Or will more money work? Got to get 25 minimum orders per spring set.
Walk me through this as if I were a small child.
The WR15 R/T are for the standard KYB AGX, correct? Yes, amongst others. Try setting 3 front, 5/6 rear.
What are the spring rates f/r? 230/200
Is this a linear spring? It's not a coilover. Linearity is intentionally confined to a prescribed range.
Estimated longevity based on other springs of a similar design? ??????????
Actual ride height? WR15 R/T 13.25ish" wheel centre to arch.
Added cost for the flattened top coil? Already part of the WR15 R/T design
Any additional parts I should have for use with the KYB AGX? No
An idea of the differences between the spring sets so I can decide if it is worth it to get upgraded struts? P11 for P1 originality and ride heights. P11-6 for those who can't stand the P1 front arch gap. WR15 R/T - lowered, therefore higher spring rate, smooth roads/track days.
And shipping to the US? As a one off $120 + $11 import duty.
Supposing we don't get the minimum orders by Jan. 5, what then? Kick the end date up the field a little longer, or is the whole thing called off (which would be a shame given the work done)? The 5th Jan is the earliest possible order date.
Or will more money work? Got to get 25 minimum orders per spring set.
Put me down for a set WR15 R/T, possibly two if we are just shy of meeting the order requirements.
As there wasn't the reponse I expected on RS 2.5, is NASIOC aware?
Still, much time between now and then. My suspicion is doing this in the winter was bad timing.
19 December 2014, 08:44 AM
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Actually, having re-read the thread and looking out the window at the arch gap, a change of selection from me
twistybits - P11-6
topshot - P11-6
Scooby Wagon - P11-6
twistybits - P11-6
topshot - P11-6
Scooby Wagon - P11-6
19 December 2014, 09:44 AM
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twistybits - P11-6
topshot - P11-6
Scooby Wagon - P11-6
piehole1983 - P11-6 (NI)
2pot WR15 R/T
Scott.T WR15 R/T
qsl WR15 R/T (US)
Geddesk2_2 WR15 R/T (US)
SilverSurfer Wr15 R/T
bonestter P11
Vee P11
Mtb_ed P11
P1 Steve73 P11
Eacy P11 (Denmark) P11
Rob669 P11
rusty&dusty P11
KRob P11
topshot - P11-6
Scooby Wagon - P11-6
piehole1983 - P11-6 (NI)
2pot WR15 R/T
Scott.T WR15 R/T
qsl WR15 R/T (US)
Geddesk2_2 WR15 R/T (US)
SilverSurfer Wr15 R/T
bonestter P11
Vee P11
Mtb_ed P11
P1 Steve73 P11
Eacy P11 (Denmark) P11
Rob669 P11
rusty&dusty P11
KRob P11
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