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Old 20 November 2017, 02:52 AM
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HI

I need a new BOV for my 425 bhp hawkeye sti.


The car has a FMIC so can either be a universal fitment one attached via hosing, or a Subaru specific one in which I can buy an adapter plate.

Which is the best recirculating valve to handle the high boost pressure of my car?

Not interested in vent to atmospheres of any kind.

Thanks

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Old 20 November 2017, 07:50 AM
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the original one works fine but if you want something bling I normally go for a forge one as you can ajust it by changing the springs inside to suit your boost level
Old 20 November 2017, 08:17 AM
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Why boost? My standard one was passing at 1.75 bar at 421bhp. I changed to a new hks sqv and it comes with an adaptor to make it a recirculating valve. Have to get the plate seperate though

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Originally Posted by lewisdj
HI

I need a new BOV for my 425 bhp hawkeye sti.


The car has a FMIC so can either be a universal fitment one attached via hosing, or a Subaru specific one in which I can buy an adapter plate.

Which is the best recirculating valve to handle the high boost pressure of my car?

Not interested in vent to atmospheres of any kind.

Thanks
Turbosmart plumbback TS-0205-1215/16, not cheap but worth the money. Totally reliable, I wouldn't be tempted back to standard, they can leak at higher boost level.
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Old 20 November 2017, 10:34 AM
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Got a Forge on mine, it handles 400+ well enough for anyone.
Old 20 November 2017, 12:44 PM
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Forge on mine, well over 400bhp and a piece of engine jewellery too.
Old 20 November 2017, 02:15 PM
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Can you guys send me links to the forge ones you have?


I know the standard ones are good but I want something uprated that I know will handle the uprated boost


Cheers
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Originally Posted by imprezagaz
Why boost? My standard one was passing at 1.75 bar at 421bhp. I changed to a new hks sqv and it comes with an adaptor to make it a recirculating valve. Have to get the plate seperate though


Thats the same one I have now, how do you turn it into a recirculating valve? I'm boosting at 1.6 bar 425 bhp
Old 20 November 2017, 05:33 PM
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I run forge on my track toy. You'll need one of these for yours

https://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/Pi...duct--795.html
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Originally Posted by lewisdj
Thats the same one I have now, how do you turn it into a recirculating valve? I'm boosting at 1.6 bar 425 bhp
sumo power do the hks adaptor that goes in the end in exchange for the triangle/ round part.
Old 21 November 2017, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by iMook
I run forge on my track toy. You'll need one of these for yours

https://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/Pi...duct--795.html


I like the look of these and aren't a bad price. I see they do a FMIPCV valve as an optional extra which would come in very handy.
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Buy the FMIPCV at the same time - it takes all the hassle out of messing around with different spring ratings in the recirc valve
Old 22 November 2017, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by iMook
Buy the FMIPCV at the same time - it takes all the hassle out of messing around with different spring ratings in the recirc valve

Oh yes 100%, they offer a substantial discount if you buy the valve and the FMIPC together
Old 22 November 2017, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by iMook
I run forge on my track toy. You'll need one of these for yours

https://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/Pi...duct--795.html
i have one of these that i no longer use if anyone is interested in purchasing? was brand new then i switched from Top mount to front mount so no longer needed
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stick with something decent like a turbosmart or aps
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Originally Posted by banny sti
stick with something decent like a turbosmart or aps
Do you not think the forge recirculating valve is up to the job? Which APS model are you talking about?
Old 22 November 2017, 07:23 PM
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Turbosmart or a Tial QR are very high quality valves that work at high bhp outputs.SJ.
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
Turbosmart or a Tial QR are very high quality valves that work at high bhp outputs.SJ.
Shall check them out, I see on the Tial QR there are different spring pressures available. Which would I need for a 425 bhp output?
Old 23 November 2017, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by lewisdj
Shall check them out, I see on the Tial QR there are different spring pressures available. Which would I need for a 425 bhp output?
Spring is related to the vaccuum your under at idle,

Think 10psi ones safe
Old 23 November 2017, 12:04 PM
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i took a punt on one of the China Tial QR's - for £30 delivered. its literally the same bar the brand naming. even when disassembled it had the same diaphram/cylinder assembly.

only thing i found was the hexhead screws where a bit soft so upgraded them with some Tial screws which werent exactly expensive either

and seeing as there aint a lot of engineering behind them i thought it was worth a punt....been on for 6mths now with no issues at all - we even ran it up to 1.7bar at one point

just about visible in this pic

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Originally Posted by lewisdj
Shall check them out, I see on the Tial QR there are different spring pressures available. Which would I need for a 425 bhp output?
-10/15psi spring rate would be fine.SJ.
Old 23 November 2017, 02:17 PM
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the turbosmart spring is adjustable, soft to hard, adjusted by turning the cap. On installation they recommend starting at the softest setting at idle and turning clockwise toward hard until the car idles normally, in effect the softest setting you can get away with. On boost it relies upon equalisation of pressure either side of the piston to keep it in place. The OEM DV relies on a very hard spring to keep it in place when the turbo's at max.
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Originally Posted by trevsjwood
the turbosmart spring is adjustable, soft to hard, adjusted by turning the cap. On installation they recommend starting at the softest setting at idle and turning clockwise toward hard until the car idles normally, in effect the softest setting you can get away with. On boost it relies upon equalisation of pressure either side of the piston to keep it in place. The OEM DV relies on a very hard spring to keep it in place when the turbo's at max.
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Interesting. Still tryin to decide, I'd say it was probably between the tial and the turbosmart on now as they are guaranteed to hold boost up to 600 bhp. Tial is significantly cheaper too...
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Originally Posted by lewisdj
Interesting. Still tryin to decide, I'd say it was probably between the tial and the turbosmart on now as they are guaranteed to hold boost up to 600 bhp. Tial is significantly cheaper too...
I have used both brands "Tial and Turbosmart that I have mentioned previously and they are quality kits, you won't go wrong with either, and your right about them running fine at high bhp figures as my car is over 600 Horses and my Tial DV works fine.SJ.
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
I have used both brands "Tial and Turbosmart that I have mentioned previously and they are quality kits, you won't go wrong with either, and your right about them running fine at high bhp figures as my car is over 600 Horses and my Tial DV works fine.SJ.
where did you get your tial one from?

so are forge recirc ones no good?
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Can anyone let me know if the tial or turbosmart ones work if i have 2 different maps? Or would the forge be best for that?
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Originally Posted by nufctoon
Can anyone let me know if the tial or turbosmart ones work if i have 2 different maps? Or would the forge be best for that?
any of the above would work but should be installed before the mapping is done.
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