Notices
Essex Subaru Owners Club The official dedicated forum for Essex Subaru Owners Club Events.

Lakeside Karting (The Return) - Monday 17th May 2010

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 19 April 2010, 09:01 PM
  #1  
BRI4N
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
BRI4N's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: On the outside, looking in.
Posts: 4,891
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Lakeside Karting (The Return) - Monday 17th May 2010

ESKC
presents...


Lakeside Karting


ROUND 7


Arrive & Drive


Monday 17th May at 8.00pm

£25.00 for 30mins
+ £3.00 PAI on the night

Names.....

1. BRI4N
2. Arkwright
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.

Reserves.....

1.
2.
3.




I need to confirm numbers to LKR by 3rd May and pay them. so names on the list & money to me BEFORE then please

Cash at Poser's or
Paypal - bri4n@sidc.co.uk
Old 19 April 2010, 09:21 PM
  #2  
Budgie
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Budgie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: MSOC..........middlesex subaru owners club
Posts: 10,429
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

ESKC
presents...


Lakeside Karting


ROUND 7


Arrive & Drive


Monday 17th May at 8.00pm

£25.00 for 30mins
+ £3.00 PAI on the night

Names.....

1. BRI4N
2. Arkwright
3. Budgie
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.

Reserves.....

1.
2.
3.




I need to confirm numbers to LKR by 3rd May and pay them. so names on the list & money to me BEFORE then please

Cash at Poser's or
Paypal - bri4n@sidc.co.uk

nice one brian, top man

Last edited by Budgie; 19 April 2010 at 09:22 PM.
Old 19 April 2010, 09:30 PM
  #3  
pinseeker
sandseeker & waterseeker
iTrader: (3)
 
pinseeker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Somewhere quiet
Posts: 1,648
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

ESKC

presents...


Lakeside Karting


ROUND 7


Arrive & Drive


Monday 17th May at 8.00pm

£25.00 for 30mins
+ £3.00 PAI on the night

Names.....

1. BRI4N
2. Arkwright
3. Budgie
4. Nomad
5. Pinseeker
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.

Reserves.....

1.
2.
3.





I need to confirm numbers to LKR by 3rd May and pay them. so names on the list & money to me BEFORE then please

Cash at Poser's or
Paypal - bri4n@sidc.co.uk
Old 19 April 2010, 09:40 PM
  #4  
Shiver
Scooby Regular
 
Shiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: MSOC
Posts: 659
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

1. BRI4N
2. Arkwright
3. Budgie
4. Nomad
5. Pinseeker
6. Shiver (if someone can give me a lift back!)
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.

Reserves.....

1.
2.
3.

(and ruining the thread format too, typical bloody MSOC!)

Last edited by Shiver; 19 April 2010 at 09:43 PM.
Old 19 April 2010, 09:59 PM
  #5  
rickya
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (18)
 
rickya's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Herts/Middx
Posts: 6,322
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

ESKC

presents...


Lakeside Karting


ROUND 7


Arrive & Drive


Monday 17th May at 8.00pm

£25.00 for 30mins
+ £3.00 PAI on the night

Names.....

1. BRI4N
2. Arkwright
3. Budgie
4. Nomad
5. Pinseeker
6. Shiver
7. RickyA
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.

Reserves.....

1.
2.
3.





I need to confirm numbers to LKR by 3rd May and pay them. so names on the list & money to me BEFORE then please

Cash at Poser's or
Paypal - bri4n@sidc.co.uk
Old 19 April 2010, 11:57 PM
  #6  
yellowvanman
Scooby Regular
 
yellowvanman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Going round in circles in a Mini
Posts: 5,485
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

ESKC

presents...


Lakeside Karting


ROUND 7


Arrive & Drive


Monday 17th May at 8.00pm

£25.00 for 30mins
+ £3.00 PAI on the night

Names.....

1. BRI4N
2. Arkwright
3. Budgie
4. Nomad
5. Pinseeker
6. Shiver
7. RickyA
8. YUM
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.

Reserves.....

1.
2.
3.





I need to confirm numbers to LKR by 3rd May and pay them. so names on the list & money to me BEFORE then please

Cash at Poser's or
Paypal - bri4n@sidc.co.uk
Old 19 April 2010, 11:58 PM
  #7  
yellowvanman
Scooby Regular
 
yellowvanman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Going round in circles in a Mini
Posts: 5,485
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Brian,

just to confirm, is that arrive for 8.00pm or start racing then?

Cheers
Old 20 April 2010, 07:09 AM
  #8  
BRI4N
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
BRI4N's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: On the outside, looking in.
Posts: 4,891
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by yellowvanman
Brian,

just to confirm, is that arrive for 8.00pm or start racing then?

Cheers
Arrive by 8:00pm for the Briefing/ on track at 8:30.



Also, I was thinking of changing the way this is scored,

i.e. - on fastest lap time rather than average speed.

Any objections?
Old 20 April 2010, 07:17 AM
  #9  
BRI4N
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
BRI4N's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: On the outside, looking in.
Posts: 4,891
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Cheers Pete.

ESKC

presents...


Lakeside Karting


ROUND 7


Arrive & Drive


Monday 17th May at 8.00pm

£25.00 for 30mins
+ £3.00 PAI on the night

Names.....

1. BRI4N - Paid
2. Arkwright
3. Budgie - Paid
4. Nomad
5. Pinseeker
6. Shiver
7. RickyA
8. YUM
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.

Reserves.....

1.
2.
3.





I need to confirm numbers to LKR by 3rd May and pay them. so names on the list & money to me BEFORE then please

Cash at Poser's or
Paypal - bri4n@sidc.co.uk
Old 20 April 2010, 08:19 AM
  #10  
yellowvanman
Scooby Regular
 
yellowvanman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Going round in circles in a Mini
Posts: 5,485
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by BRI4N
Arrive by 8:00pm for the Briefing/ on track at 8:30.



Also, I was thinking of changing the way this is scored,

i.e. - on fastest lap time rather than average speed.

Any objections?
Cheers Brian

Regarding the scoring method, I can see the merits in both options, especially if you get into trouble or have a kart failure i.e. you still have a chance to win.
Personally, I still think a 'race' should be over the duration, rather than a 'qualifying' lap, therefore overall average speed for me.

That said, I am happy just to play, regardless.
Old 20 April 2010, 09:12 AM
  #11  
stephen beynon
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
stephen beynon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: North Walsham/FB Tuning
Posts: 1,142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

[CENTER]ESKC[CENTER]

[CENTER]presents...[CENTER]


Lakeside Karting


ROUND 7


Arrive & Drive


Monday 17th May at 8.00pm

£25.00 for 30mins
+ £3.00 PAI on the night

Names.....

1. BRI4N - Paid
2. Arkwright
3. Budgie - Paid
4. Nomad
5. Pinseeker
6. Shiver
7. RickyA
8. YUM
9. Stephenbeynon
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.

Reserves.....

1.
2.
3.





I need to confirm numbers to LKR by 3rd May and pay them. so names on the list & money to me BEFORE then please

Cash at Poser's or
Paypal - bri4n@sidc.co.uk
Old 20 April 2010, 10:25 AM
  #12  
scooby seb
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
scooby seb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: not sure my mum just dropped me off here????
Posts: 1,323
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

my mum said i'm aloud out to play so could someone please add my name

cheers scott
Old 20 April 2010, 10:40 AM
  #13  
ratboy
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
ratboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Guildford,Surrey
Posts: 432
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Do you have an address for this venue please?
Old 20 April 2010, 01:05 PM
  #14  
Woodbitch
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Woodbitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Whatever planet I'm on at the time....
Posts: 358
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

ESKC

presents...


Lakeside Karting


ROUND 7


Arrive & Drive


Monday 17th May at 8.00pm

£25.00 for 30mins
+ £3.00 PAI on the night

Names.....

1. BRI4N - Paid
2. Arkwright
3. Budgie - Paid
4. Nomad
5. Pinseeker
6. Shiver
7. RickyA
8. YUM
9. Stephenbeynon
10. Scooby Seb
11. Woodbutch
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.

Reserves.....

1.
2.
3.





I need to confirm numbers to LKR by 3rd May and pay them. so names on the list & money to me BEFORE then please

Cash at Poser's or
Paypal - bri4n@sidc.co.uk


Old 20 April 2010, 04:08 PM
  #15  
Budgie
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Budgie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: MSOC..........middlesex subaru owners club
Posts: 10,429
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by yellowvanman
Cheers Brian

Regarding the scoring method, I can see the merits in both options, especially if you get into trouble or have a kart failure i.e. you still have a chance to win.
Personally, I still think a 'race' should be over the duration, rather than a 'qualifying' lap, therefore overall average speed for me.

That said, I am happy just to play, regardless.
i agree Neil, but then i would, wouldn't i
Old 20 April 2010, 04:24 PM
  #16  
V4JDMSTi
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
V4JDMSTi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Essex
Posts: 12,706
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Starting the points afresh?
Old 20 April 2010, 06:39 PM
  #17  
BRI4N
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
BRI4N's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: On the outside, looking in.
Posts: 4,891
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by yellowvanman
Cheers Brian

Regarding the scoring method, I can see the merits in both options, especially if you get into trouble or have a kart failure i.e. you still have a chance to win.
Personally, I still think a 'race' should be over the duration, rather than a 'qualifying' lap, therefore overall average speed for me.

That said, I am happy just to play, regardless.
Points taken Neil.

Some of the reasons for my idea.....

1. you don`t have to go ***** out for 1/2 hour.
2. Keeping going too fast under yellow flags won`t benefit you.
3. If you have an off it isn`t the end of the world.
4. When you come up behind someone there is no need for the "do or die" tactics to get past straight away.

All of the above will reduce the need for over aggressive driving.

You should get a chance to put in a clear lap within 1/2 an hour and if it isn`t quick enough tough.



Originally Posted by ratboy
Do you have an address for this venue please?
Lakeside Karting Raceway
Arterial Road (A1306),
Thurrock,
Essex
RM19 1EA
Map


Originally Posted by mneame
Starting the points afresh?
New Season, new start.
Old 20 April 2010, 09:48 PM
  #18  
pinseeker
sandseeker & waterseeker
iTrader: (3)
 
pinseeker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Somewhere quiet
Posts: 1,648
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Just my observation....

I like Neil's idea of average lap times more than fastest lap. I think it may get boring with one person consistently getting a fastest lap & winning (saying that from someone not likely to get fastest lap ).

With average lap times the race can get mixed up a bit if people have offs but also take on board that we all drive more enthusiastically to do as many laps we can.

Having said all that I turn up & go as fast as I can enjoying the experience but would be nice to know that I may have a chance of climbing the positions now & again

BRI4N
I appreciate you taking the trouble to arrange the karting & will be happy to go with the flow on how you wish to run the event
Old 20 April 2010, 10:42 PM
  #19  
yellowvanman
Scooby Regular
 
yellowvanman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Going round in circles in a Mini
Posts: 5,485
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Andy, not really my idea, that was how George sorted the places.

Brian, I understand the logic behind the suggestion, especially the observance of yellow flags. As said I have my preference but would happily attend which ever option you choose.

Budgie agrees with me, **** I nearly fainted.
Old 20 April 2010, 10:55 PM
  #20  
BRI4N
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
BRI4N's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: On the outside, looking in.
Posts: 4,891
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by pinseeker
I think it may get boring with one person consistently getting a fastest lap & winning
But it was usually the same couple of people getting fastest average times too Andy. LOL

But the difference with fastest lap, for example, 1st time we went, last year, I was placed about 17th going on average speed. But on fastest lap, I would have placed 10th. And seeing as you do a similar lap time to me, you would have done better too, so Shush!

Possible Compromise...

How about bonus points for best average speed?
Old 21 April 2010, 07:34 AM
  #21  
pinseeker
sandseeker & waterseeker
iTrader: (3)
 
pinseeker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Somewhere quiet
Posts: 1,648
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Note to self....must try harder
Old 21 April 2010, 08:42 AM
  #22  
Arkwright
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Arkwright's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Happy that I'm back in a Scooby - but maybe I should have told the wife...!
Posts: 2,200
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I Like Brians train of thinking as what he said will reduce the need for over aggressivness and now it appears as though George isn`t on board the group might not get away with things as easily.
Also we are only paying for a practise session not a race I know the first time I went I was first out the pits and had nearly completed a lap before everyone had joined the track.
I also noticed that the drivers lap times were very close so the competition could be closer all round.
Also I`d like to thank Brian for taking this on, organising these events is very time consuming and can be stressful at times so a big up for Brian

I`am looking forward to being involved again and will be happy to just be out there so whatever is decided I`m coming out to play again.

Last edited by Arkwright; 21 April 2010 at 09:03 AM.
Old 21 April 2010, 11:22 AM
  #23  
rickya
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (18)
 
rickya's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Herts/Middx
Posts: 6,322
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Just a thought, but if say in 30mins you can normaly fit in approx e.g. 50 laps.
Why not take the average of each drivers fastest e.g. 30 laps?

I suppose that way if you have an 'off' or a broken kart replaced its not the end of the world as those laps wont count & you also dont need to make each lap a flying aggressive lap either. But you still have to put in fairly consistent laps & be fast to win.

Last edited by rickya; 21 April 2010 at 11:25 AM.
Old 21 April 2010, 11:53 AM
  #24  
V4JDMSTi
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
V4JDMSTi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Essex
Posts: 12,706
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Take the fastest lap and slowest lap and then average those out. Could make for some interesting results
Old 21 April 2010, 05:06 PM
  #25  
Budgie
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Budgie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: MSOC..........middlesex subaru owners club
Posts: 10,429
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by BRI4N


New Season, new start.
so does that make me last seasons champion then
Old 21 April 2010, 05:54 PM
  #26  
BRI4N
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
BRI4N's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: On the outside, looking in.
Posts: 4,891
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by rickya
Just a thought, but if say in 30mins you can normaly fit in approx e.g. 50 laps.
Why not take the average of each drivers fastest e.g. 30 laps?

I suppose that way if you have an 'off' or a broken kart replaced its not the end of the world as those laps wont count & you also dont need to make each lap a flying aggressive lap either. But you still have to put in fairly consistent laps & be fast to win.
Originally Posted by mneame
Take the fastest lap and slowest lap and then average those out. Could make for some interesting results
Not bad ideas, but, would take ages to work out and not sure if LKR could supply one person with all the info.



Originally Posted by Budgie
so does that make me last seasons champion then
Maybe, but we're still waiting on the results from the last meeting. I could have overtaken you in the standings.
Old 21 April 2010, 07:08 PM
  #27  
yellowvanman
Scooby Regular
 
yellowvanman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Going round in circles in a Mini
Posts: 5,485
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Budgie
so does that make me last seasons champion then
Sorry? I thought MSOC guests where now points scoring?
Old 21 April 2010, 07:20 PM
  #28  
53
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (41)
 
53's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Standing Up
Posts: 16,742
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Depends on the session if the mist is up and the flags are out you might only see 27 laps !

Fatty's will always favour lady luck averages and the skill of consistency

Lightweights will always like 30+ chances of putting in a good lap

Either way is fine with me, just good fun at the end of the day.

Will Jackie be spectator as we could do with additional points for style and drifting not to mention bonus points for 'most MSOC offs' in a single lap
Old 23 April 2010, 08:51 PM
  #29  
BRI4N
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
BRI4N's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: On the outside, looking in.
Posts: 4,891
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default BTTT

ESKC

presents...


Lakeside Karting


ROUND 7


Arrive & Drive


Monday 17th May at 8.00pm

£25.00 for 30mins
+ £3.00 PAI on the night

Names.....

1. BRI4N - Paid
2. Arkwright
3. Budgie - Paid
4. Nomad
5. Pinseeker
6. Shiver
7. RickyA
8. YUM
9. Stephenbeynon
10. Scooby Seb
11. Woodbutch
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.

Reserves.....

1.
2.
3.





I need to confirm numbers to LKR by 3rd May and pay them. so names on the list & money to me BEFORE then please

Cash at Poser's or
Paypal - bri4n@sidc.co.uk
Old 24 April 2010, 12:55 PM
  #30  
Arkwright
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Arkwright's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Happy that I'm back in a Scooby - but maybe I should have told the wife...!
Posts: 2,200
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

ESKC

presents...


Lakeside Karting


ROUND 7


Arrive & Drive


Monday 17th May at 8.00pm

£25.00 for 30mins
+ £3.00 PAI on the night

Names.....

1. BRI4N - Paid
2. Arkwright
3. Budgie - Paid
4. Nomad
5. Pinseeker
6. Shiver
7. RickyA
8. YUM
9. Stephenbeynon
10. Scooby Seb
11. Woodbutch
12. Dazmondeo
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.

Reserves.....

1.
2.
3.





I need to confirm numbers to LKR by 3rd May and pay them. so names on the list & money to me BEFORE then please

Cash at Poser's or
Paypal - bri4n@sidc.co.uk


Quick Reply: Lakeside Karting (The Return) - Monday 17th May 2010



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:35 AM.