Alcatek vs Esl
20 March 2018, 07:04 PM
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Alcatek vs Esl
Currently running my v2 on esl and im feeling the need for AL and Launch after a few 1/4 mile session last year.
After waiting four years for the esl motor sports option I've given up.
Other than the motor sport options is the alcatek as good as the esl? Any differences in mapping costs?
cheers
Steve
After waiting four years for the esl motor sports option I've given up.
Other than the motor sport options is the alcatek as good as the esl? Any differences in mapping costs?
cheers
Steve
Last edited by edsel; 20 March 2018 at 07:05 PM.
20 March 2018, 09:34 PM
#3
Live mapping on esl 
Motorsport pack works really well on the v3/4,really surprised it's not out for v1/2 after all this time,I know the v5/6 esl was in testing but that's old news,the v1/2 motorsport was supposed to follow?
I'm thinking of going avcs and I'm pretty sure esl doesn't support this,Maybe in the future?alcatek does.
I've heard it's hard to contact Andy leech and am unsure if the self mapping kit is readily available?
Edit:just re-read is that live map switching @Pross,as in changing the full map on the fly? Is this done on a switch?
Motorsport pack works really well on the v3/4,really surprised it's not out for v1/2 after all this time,I know the v5/6 esl was in testing but that's old news,the v1/2 motorsport was supposed to follow?
I'm thinking of going avcs and I'm pretty sure esl doesn't support this,Maybe in the future?alcatek does.
I've heard it's hard to contact Andy leech and am unsure if the self mapping kit is readily available?
Edit:just re-read is that live map switching @Pross,as in changing the full map on the fly? Is this done on a switch?
Last edited by ossett2k2; 20 March 2018 at 10:31 PM.
20 March 2018, 09:43 PM
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if i had 500 quid to spend on an ecu id be going towards LINK ecu or something more mainstream.
ESL and alcatek are only as good as there founders and well, do some googling and you will see.
i got my ESL ecu, cable and software for £250. id never pay full price for it.
there no guarantee that they wont pull the plug once they feel its not profitable anymore.
TBH, cant really fault ESL personally other than a few glitches in software and zero support from the facebook page as i dont have an invoice.
pretty sure alcatek does avcs. try simtek, i hear good things about simtek.
ESL and alcatek are only as good as there founders and well, do some googling and you will see.
i got my ESL ecu, cable and software for £250. id never pay full price for it.
there no guarantee that they wont pull the plug once they feel its not profitable anymore.
TBH, cant really fault ESL personally other than a few glitches in software and zero support from the facebook page as i dont have an invoice.
pretty sure alcatek does avcs. try simtek, i hear good things about simtek.
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21 March 2018, 12:21 AM
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Even if you do have an invoice the support from Andy at ESL is pretty poor lately. (well, the last 2 years) now he does courses he doesnt give anything away for support even tho we paid good money at the time before he did courses for full support.
21 March 2018, 11:37 AM
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You cant get alcatek at the minute and they are offering zero technical support as they are having some sort of problem. I have an engine being built and tried to buy one from bob rawle, i have to go for link g4+
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21 March 2018, 11:16 PM
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Thanks gents that's just the kind of feed back I was looking for. No wonder alcatek units are coming up for sale regularly. There's not many options available for early imprezas it seems. I wouldn't have bought the ESL in the first place if I knew the forthcoming motor sport pack was just talk.
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23 March 2018, 03:53 PM
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24 March 2018, 01:25 PM
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can the ecu be mapped or is it more data logging
24 March 2018, 01:35 PM
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Far from an expert mate.
I'm no pro and will only map my own cars.
Plenty of good reading on the forum and the esl user manual tho to diy.
Andy also does a mapping course occasionally,I might get on the next one in May I think?
Yes can be mapped with esl.
24 March 2018, 04:12 PM
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is yours a classic?Are you running mafless setup
24 March 2018, 07:23 PM
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seems definitely worth it. I will see what code my ecu is during the week. Can you switch off the imobiliser through the software.
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